“We’re seeing far too many people walking around with [face coverings] under their chin. We’re seeing many people wearing them, but with their nose exposed.” Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr @ronan_glynn urges people to make sure they’re wearing face coverings correctly. #Covid19 pic.twitter.com/WCJzIxEMSz
— RTÉ News (@rtenews) August 31, 2020
Last night.
Meanwhile…
Minister for Health, Stephen Donnelly
Health Minister Stephen Donnelly plans to introduce fines of up to €100 for people who break #COVID19 guidelines.https://t.co/XKCrJqyi1W
— NewstalkFM (@NewstalkFM) September 1, 2020
This morning.
“I will be introducing legislation shortly which will add a table of penalties to the 1947 health Act, which essentially will allow for more appropriate measures: for example a €20, a €50 or €100 fine.”
“We would be looking, for example, with non-compliance on face covering wearings for example of having fines – it’s what other countries do.
“The current powers in Ireland, the 1947 Act, is unwieldy in this case”.
“We will be looking at bringing in a new schedule of fines, including for other compliance measures.
Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly.
Meanwhile…
Professor Philip Nolan, Chair of NPHET
“If we’re going to be able to go to school and go to work … we’re really going to have to reserve our contacts for those settings,” says Prof Philip Nolan
— Morning Ireland (@morningireland) September 1, 2020
Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, Professor Philip Nolan, Chair of NPHET said limiting discretionary contacts over the winter is also necessary if we want to keep schools and workplaces open.
He was speaking after local restrictions put in place for Co Kildare in early August to combat a spike of coronavirus were lifted yesterday evening.
Prof Nolan said a national approach to limiting discretionary contacts “and not going wild and allowing the virus to transmit while we are socialising” is a better approach in the first instance than regional restrictions on movements.
County-wide lockdowns work and need to happen quickly – Nolan (RTÉ)
To recap:
You’re wearing your mask wrong.
Fines!
Stop socialising outside of work.
More fines and no way or intent to enforce them.
It’s like people breaking red lights, dog fouling etc. You can tack on whatever punitive damages you want, you have to actually enforce the laws for them to mean anything to the people who see no problem breaking them.
Donnelly is way out of his depth. That’s two Health Ministers (both from Wicklow as it happens) who have proved themselves to be full of it and haven’t a clue.
Give him a break.
The previous Minister for Health didn’t know what Covid 19 actually was and this lad thinks its no more dangerous than bouncing on a trampoline. But he’s learning.
Guidelines are not mandatory.
+1
Either it is a law or it is not.
Also- what happened to the €2500 or 6 months in jail?
+ 2 confusion reigns, Donnelly seems to be on a solo run quite often, also seems like they’re leaving him at it as if they’re happy for him to make a boob of himself?
Yes, they require a certain measure of maturity and responsibility.
…maybe Donnelly sees a future in the EU if he keeps making gaffs…it worked for big Phil…
Ha ha, good.
Where’s the Skerries Covid Tik Tok scandal thread, hop to it!
PS Donnelly may actually be less competent than Mary Harney, some achievement.
Open the pubs, you fools.
you’re drunk, go home
What if you’re drunk at home? Asking for a friend…..
go next door
OH-HO-ho-ho, I’m not falling for that again.
we both know you will
Court order says No.
But I just made whiskey sours!
Well I could get drunk if I wanted to so NEERRRRR. The pubs are open here. I had a lovely raspberry mojito yesterday afternoon.
No booze yet today. Sigh.
Hope all’s well wit da babby, Milz.
A raspberry mojito sounds absolutely delightful, and I’ll have two thanks.
Young master Albert is thriving thanks, Andy. Is France all that is chic and fabuleaux?
I was misunderstood. I’m in Belgium!
Oh my. And? Is it fabuleaux? They clearly do a good trade in raspberry mojitos.
It is FANTASTIC. Haven’t looked back since we got here. I love it.
Sickeningly jealous.
Nearly 6,000 deaths yesterday, globally from Covid, on average 150,000 people die (2017 figures) on a typical day, what does it all mean!?
Talking about Ireland of course broadbag
Personally, I’m spending too much time looking at the rest of the world. Need to focus on here.
Especially as it is following a seasonal pattern.
I see Irish MEPs are asking the Taoiseach to change the rules for travel….for MEPs. (They must have had discussions with the virus, and the virus has made a special derogation for MEPs against catching it)
Billy Kelleher, Sean Kelly and Ciaran Cuffe want to change the rules, for MEPs. More of the ‘do as I say, not as I do’ attitude.
And yet another example not the Regulatory Apartheid overtaking this Country
Of
Not not
yeaaahh…..people are getting pished off with this. all work ,no play and beatings will continue until morale improves.
“If we’re going to be able to go to school and go to work … we’re really going to have to reserve our contacts for those settings,” says Prof Philip Nolan.
No seeing other family members? No social life at all? Children staying away from friends? Ad infinitum? Is this guy for real? One should be relieved, perhaps, that he then softened this to ‘limiting discretionary contacts’. Whatever happened to ‘learning to live with it’? In spite of masks, restrictions on visitors and outside events, etc, etc, most people are doing their best to live as normal a life as possible. Don’t let NPHET undo the efforts being made by people to act like normal human beings. When will the Government stop listening to them???
it’s what you voted for.
I plead not guilty to that one. And no-one voted for NPHET but they’re still getting to control the country.
Deaths are low.
But there is a worrying increase in Hospitalisations.
There were only 8 people in hospital with COVID on 1st Aug. That has steadily increased all month to 36 people today. And while that is way down on the peak of 900 it is trending the wrong way.
https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu–testing
I didn’t vote for Angela Merkel and she still runs this country…PMSL..democracy eh?
@bejasus
Merkel and NPHET – an unholy alliance, indeed!
Democracy:
the belief in freedom and equality between people, or a system of government based on this belief, in which power is either held by elected representatives or directly by the people themselves
Cambridge Dictionary
How far have we strayed already? And how much further will we go?
“Prof Nolan said that Kildare was different to Laois and Offaly as it had a large outbreak with a second wave, where the disease was spreading within houses and families and was beginning to spread into communities.”
We’re living under a kind of medical tyranny These health officials are completely convinced of their own self-righteousness and there seems to be virtually no one in government or opposition willing or able to challenge them.
There’s now rarely any distinction made between “cases” and “infection”. A “second wave” now seems to mean anything they want it to mean. It can be as big or small as you like and doesn’t necessarily have to be linked to actual infection, serious or otherwise. Lockdowns are now proven to be effective because they say so, no need for further scrutiny. The threat of another lockdown is just a click of their fingers away.
These health officials have their own narrow focus. Their primary concern is protecting their own credibility. To do this, they must reduce the numbers – or at least, the public must perceive that their directives have had, and are having, the intended effect.
What they’re not equipped to consider is the huge range of unintended implications these measures are causing for society at large – the corrosion of trust between citizen and government as civil liberties and human rights get suspended indefinitely; the mental health of the nation living under perpetual fear and isolation; the long term suffering caused by economic collapse..etc etc
Human life is being stripped away of the things that give it meaning on the justification of protecting our biological existence.
@f_lawless
Oh, so absolutely and completely true.
And there is also the corrosion of trust between citizen and citizen, resulting in people who try to protest against what is happening being told to shut up and do as they are told and people who may (but may not) be breaking the guidelines being pilloried online, etc, if they can’t be reported in some other way.
Freedom is being very seriously eroded, life is being denuded and, as you say, this is all, supposedly, to protect our biological existence. Even if it does do that to some degree, I, for one, do not feel that the results are worth the privations.
well said John
I was talking to someone yesterday who said they were in a pub in Co Leitrim at the weekend. They said the place was packed!! Not a sign of food to be seen. I won’t mention the town or pub. They said it was a complete joke.