153 thoughts on “Sunday’s Papers

  1. Tommy Bohan

    So today the Irish/English Daily Mail had half their front page splashed about the British royals, now the Irish/English Mail on Sunday have half their front page about Boris Johnson father. So much for calling themselves an Irish paper! Their August circulation figures show them selling under 50,000 in Republic of Ireland. https://www.abc.org.uk/Certificates/49831124.pdf Their sales have fallen off a cliff the last 2/3 years, it amazes me how they persist with this focus on British stories on their front pages.

      1. Tommy Bohan

        Of course it’s OK for the Daily Mail IN THEUK to have as much Royal stories as they want. My issue is that the IRISH edition of same should have Irish stories mostly featured, not endless Megan, Harry, Kate, Boris etc leads.

        1. dhod

          I understand your concern but it’s the daily mail. It’s what they do, Irish edition or not. You’d be surprised by the amount of Irish people that love a royal story……and buy the Daily Mail

        2. Brother Barnabas

          there are more than 100,000 british citizens living in ireland – that’s who this is aimed at, not you, Tommy. they feature royals etc on the front page because that’s what its readership likes. it sells around 20,000 a week – 19,999 of them are to little englander emigres. the other one is a hairdresser in kilorglin. nobody knows why she buys it.

          1. Bertie Theodore Alphege Blenkinsop

            Yeah, the place hasn’t been the same without his drunken tirades and rape threats.

  2. Tommy Bohan

    Yeah I know a lot of Irish people follow the royals, and I don’t have any issue with that at all. My issue is that, a so called, Irish paper makes so little effort at putting Irish stories into it’s edition. As regards sales of the Irish Daily Mail, here are the facts!
    They sell 22,500 copies approx (and falling) That is a huge fall on about 3 years ago when they were selling over 50,000. A part of that, in my opinion, is the line or tactic that they have taken in focusing so much on the likes of those mentioned above. Yeah, sure some Irish people like that stuff, I don’t. I used to buy their papers, but no longer. Of course I agree anyone can buy any paper they want!

    1. Cú Chulainn

      Burn everything British except their coal.. that’s an old one. Joking aside, Britain is absolutely and totally fecked. It has lost all sense. Fingers crossed we don’t don’t suffer too much as they go through their long dark teatime of their soul.

    2. Lilly

      This comment, or some version of it, has been made here ad nauseam for some time now. Why do you care? Just don’t buy the rag. Problem solved.

      1. Tommy Bohan

        OK, I won’t post about it again! However, there are many other points repeated here also. The point I’m trying to make is, I can’t understand how someone can pay €3.20 for a paper that is more than half a copy of a British one. As I said I used to buy it, back a few years ago, most of it contained Irish material. Now, practically everything it leads with on it’s front pages (daily & Sunday editions) are British ones, be it gardening, medical or whatever. I find it bizarre than an Irish paper should have 10 pages in it about the British Prime Minister. It’s lack of Irish content is shocking – hence it’s rapid decline in sales. Rant over – for good!!

        1. Charger Salmons

          If you haven’t bought it for a few years how do you know what content is inside it ?
          I haven’t bought a newspaper in over a decade and not many other people do either – online subscriptions are where it’s at now even after all the free content that is available.
          SMH,NYT,Guardian,Mail are giving it away.
          Talking of free content WHSmith used to have an honesty box at LHR & LGW where you paid for your newspapers.
          If I was going long-haul I used to carry a handful of very small loose change to feed into the box after I’d picked up a dozen or so newspapers from around the world.
          I knew then that paid-for hard copies were dead in the water.

          1. Charger Salmons

            Actually I asked the same question of one of M’Learned friends at a very convivial dinner party.
            Her opinion was quite clear – as the company was inviting me to pay for my purchases rather than as a request it would make any challenge in a court of law impossible to prove.
            We both agreed that as the company had been one of those taking part in the boarding card/ VAT refund scam for many years it was a fair exchange.
            By the by I’ve bought a few SMWH shares for the long term – their price collapsed in March with the lockdown because so many of their outlets are in stations and airports.
            Patience will be required for this one though.

          2. Charger Salmons

            My other great airport scam was long-stay parking.
            Park in a quiet residential street in Hounslow and five minutes on the tube to LHR.
            Even better at Gatwick.Drop the missus and bags off at the airport, park in a lovely side-street in Horley and walk back to the terminal.
            Saved thousands over the years.
            Every little helps.

          3. Brother Barnabas

            your obsession with charger is kind of weird

            and, yeah, he is funny – good company over a pint, I’d imagine

          4. Charger Salmons

            Talking of someone who has an obsession with Charger …
            It’s like being followed around by an abandoned runt of the litter.

          5. Alexander the Great

            You’re dead right Charger
            It’s like when you take a suck calf away from the birth cow. It will follow you around looking for mommy’s beestings

          6. GiggidyGoo

            You consider yourself a sow then Charger. You do come out with Mittyisms aol the same.
            You were trying to tell us a couple of weeks back that you were aware of a number of pubs selling out of date beer – you quickly ran away from that one when it as pointed out to you that the breweries covered the costs of unused beer due to pubs closing because of covid.

            Now you’re coming up with the Hounslow gem – when you need a residents permit for on street parking, or buy a book of permits, and change them daily otherwise you get fined by the day. But Charger boy doesn’t. Unless he parks in a dead end, off street and comes back to a damaged car, or no car at all. Likewise, Horley, you have a high chance of coming back to a damaged vehicle.

            You’re full of it Charger, and the other village idiot, Alex, in tow, never too far away.
            Such an inferiority complex. You should do something about it.

          7. Alexander the Great

            Norway, look we are really sorry about this but could you help out your old Viking sons again?

          8. Papi

            If even charger ignores you, why would Norway listen to your ineffective mewling?
            B9 never Wong, try hard.

          9. V AKA Frilly Keane

            Well Charage
            If you were going long haul the way some of us do
            Or just departing from an Aer Lingus hub or partner
            You’d get them in the business lounges
            +All you can drink
            Mine is the freshly squeezed and vodka

            And Ginger Ales for the carry-on

          10. Tommy Bohan

            I bought it until the amount of British stories in it got too much, it was a gradual change over time. Eventually I said enough is enough, I didn’t want tp pay €3.20 or whatever it was then for what I thought was more like an English paper than an Irish one. It reminds me now of the Times Ireland edition i.e. they have a few pages at the start that are mostly Irish content and the rest is just copied off the British one. They’ve left off a good deal of their Irish staff in the last 12 months are so, and it is easy to see this from their content, and their circulation figures.

          11. Lilly

            @Tommy – Even when it had a bit of Irish content in the first few pages, it was a pile of poo. What did you like about it that you can’t get elsewhere?

          12. Rosette of Sirius

            When flying east, try Swiss. Excellent cabin and their first class lounge in Zurich is incredible. That’s said nothing beats Emirates end to end. Limousine service at both ends and their sky suite is perhaps the most comfortable 18 hours I spend in the air when flying to Auckland last year. Also the opportunity to get nekkid on a plane and have a shower is always a lark…. they use Irish amenities too – Voya.

        2. Charger Salmons

          V – I try to avoid Aer Lingus.
          They’re as bad as BA for lousy service.
          In fact most Transatlantic stuff is terrible with AA the absolute pits and Delta not much better.
          I love the Middle East and Far East airlines.
          It’s noticeable how few of their FAs are overweight compared to our lot and it’s an inescapable fact that the fatter a FA is the poorer the service.
          Not trying to fat shame here but just speaking how I find.

  3. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    Hey anti-maskers – your poster boy Trump is in hospital. Is he part of the great conspiracy to muzzle you and take away your freedoms? Has he faked it so more people believe it is real? More cases and deaths in Ireland. The virus has not gone away, not all the vulnerable have already died, the virus has not got weaker (no matter how much you hope it has), there is no herd immunity, it has nothing to do with 5G, Youtubers do not know the answers, masks help.

    1. Hank

      Why would you think Trump is the poster boy for “anti maskers”?
      I find it so weird the way people seem so determined to equate either right or left wing politics with people’s opinions on covid restrictions.
      Makes zero sense

      1. Formerly known as @ireland.com

        I don’t equate covid restrictions with left and right. If you look through my comments on this site, I use the fact that left and right governments supporting lockdowns as proof that it is not a world-wide conspiracy.

          1. Charger Salmons

            You’d feel at home in New Zealand.
            Another insignicant island where it rains a lot, not much happens and when their politicians say ‘ jump ‘ the only question asked is ‘ how high ‘ ?
            Still, unlike Australia, at least they don’t think the height of culture is a bottle of Yakult.

          2. Cú Chulainn

            Ha ha Mr. Salmons.. insignificant, just like your beloved island.. Britain.. (you walked straight into that one..!)

          3. SOQ

            NZ has to open sometime Formerly and what happens then eh? This is a mass experiment on a global scale and Sweden is the control group.

            There is no indications of anything unusual happening there right now- so does that not make you wonder what the point of all this carnage is?

          4. Nigel

            JFC Sweden is not the or a control group. Look, it’s a free website, you can say any bloody thing that comes into your head, but it’s still absolute bloody tosh.

        1. E'Matty

          “I don’t equate covid restrictions with left and right.” and “Hey anti-maskers – your poster boy Trump is in hospital.” Why do you think Trump would be the poster boy for your “Anti-maskers”?

          1. Nigel

            Because he downplayed the virus, avoided wearing a mask, pushed dodgy cures and treatments, held huge rallies full of people crowded together, decided it wasn’t worth informing anyone when he knew there was a risk he and his staff had been exposed? Nothing to do with left or right.

          2. E'Matty

            @Nige – I don’t think you understand the protests. They are against an agenda of global oligarchic authoritarian control, an agenda which Trump is actually a part of. Ironically, you’re more in line with Trump’s agenda than the protesters. Trump in reality is just theatre, nothing more. The globalist agenda of supranational centralised global control is marching on at speed under his Presidency. This may all be a little cerebral for you to understand though.

          3. SOQ

            And what about the SNP MP Margaret Ferrier eh? She travelled from London to Scotland knowing she had CoVid-19. SNP are hardly known for their right wing views.

          4. Nigel

            I was agreeing with you. She can be one of your poster persons too, if you want, absolutely no objections there.

          5. Nigel

            ‘They are against an agenda of global oligarchic authoritarian control,’

            Yeah and pizzagate was about global oligarchic authoritarian pedophiles. Meaningless bunk. The pandemic is either real or it isn’t. Steps have to be taken, or they haven’t. If the government takes those steps, they either do a good job or they don’t, allowing for variations in different areas such as nursing homes. Now we’re in a transitition period where we either keep infections low, or they increase and we have to go back into lockdown, and nobody is thinking the government is doing that good of a job. You, meanwhile, spout a streams of absolute bull because you don’t want to wear a mask.

            The global oligarchic authoritarians make their money either way, but they sure do love it when people enable unhinged right-wing movements to chip away at the foundations of liberal democracies.

          6. E'Matty

            @ Nige – “The global oligarchic authoritarians make their money either way, but they sure do love it when people enable unhinged right-wing movements to chip away at the foundations of liberal democracies.” eh, you think it’s about money? These guys literally print money. It’s merely a tool at that level. Power is the only game in town. Forget ideologies, religions, economic systems, power is all they care about and will dress in the garb of any variation of the aforementioned required to achieve that.

            You appear to believe the psychology of people in power changed somewhere along the way in history? Can you tell us when you think this happened?

            Is it the case that you don’t believe centralised global power under oligarchic rule is possible to achieve now? Or, is it that you think the most powerful people in the world wouldn’t take advantage of such an opportunity to achieve absolute power on a global level?

            “enable unhinged right-wing movements to chip away at the foundations of liberal democracies” he says with a straight face. So, it’s those opposing the widespread roll-out of authoritarian measures by governments worldwide who are undermining democracy? Go on, tell us how restricting freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, the right to earn a livelihood, freedom to travel, the floated move to restrict the right to inviolability of a citizens home and even right to bodily integrity, the right of children to be educated etc…is protecting our democracy? Those defending those Constitutional Rights are somehow undermining our democracy? Please do explain.

          7. Nigel

            You have a lot of long-rehearsed rants in your head ready to unleash at the slightest excuse.

            Anything that advances a right wing agenda undermines democracy. That has been demonstrated in the UK, the US, Poland, Turkey, Brazil, and any number of other places. One wedge issue is just as good as any other, to them.

            It’s funny that Trump, being part of the oligarchic elite, downplayng the virus, calling it a hoax, promoting dodgy or badly misunderstood treatments, not wearing a mask and holding super-spreader rallies, or Cummings and Boris trying to launch a herd immunity strategy, or Bolsanaro downplaying the virus even after he caught it, doesn’t ring any alarm bells for you.

          8. Nigel

            To clarify – right wing ideas of opposing the global oligarchic elite involve stripping regulations and protections from citizens while claiming they are tyrannical and authoritarian, thereby allowing industries and corporations to steal, despoil, pollute, defraud and exploit without oversight, accountability or restriction. The power of a democratically elected governent to enact radical measures in the face of public health emergencies to protect all their citizens is the sort of power no right wing freedom-lovin’ anti-masker could fail to begrudge. It poses the ultimate question of whether people are more important than money, istead of people being nothing without money. If people are more important than money, and with climate change bringing more and more disruption, governments might think they have the right to act to protect people from that disruption, and not money. That’s anathema to the right (as of now, anyway.) Guess which side you’re on?

    2. goldenbrown

      Has he faked it so more people believe it is real?

      Trump is in a hospital

      but the fakery is not for the reason you state I believe, it’s just a rouse aimed at gaming the election which he (unfortunately) will win

      I had €50 on @6/4 but I can see all betting on the US election has been suspended

      1. Charger Salmons

        I didn’t pick you up on it yesterday because we all make mistakes.
        But if you’re going to keep using it in the context of Trump it’s ruse not rouse.

  4. GiggidyGoo

    RTE – “Give us more money” – “Covid and all that and Brexit maybe as well”

    1. Bitnbox

      Go Giggidy! Fake news RTE churning out plandemic nonsense and even then the dark forces and 5G luvvies can’t throw them a few bob.

    2. V AKA Frilly Keane

      + the 8 mill Denis Naughten slithered off to them before being shamed out of his Ministerial
      + Josepha’s Cultural 4 mill
      + Richard Bruton’s bitta’ve bailout of 50 mill / 5 years but not calling it a bailout, since 10 million here and there tends to look commonplace, and won’t be treated as anything newsworthy.
      + Licence Fees * lobbying for increases while whining about the cost of collection very bold An Post
      + Where are YE2019 Accounts

      Yet they’ve no problem finding six figure top ups for lads they’ve retired off onto their own SuperAnn Payroll so that they can play more golf

      I’m not even sure Who Claire Byrne, Tubs and the RTÉ Corona Singers work for tbh

      1. Clampers Outside

        We often disagree on stuff RTE related V but I loved “RTE Corona Singers”…
        Proper LOL!
        Thanks :)

        1. V AKA Frilly Keane

          You disagreed with my rendering of published Accounts Clamps
          That’s all
          The very purpose of Published Accounts is to allow the reader/ user form their own interpretation

          When RTÉs latest are finally made available I’m sure Broadsheet will be delighted to host your interpretation

      2. goldenbrown

        you don’t need published accounts to know that RTÉ would not survive as a commercial entity without state subvention

        and that subvention money is harvested from the citizens pocket – no different to how the monies required to feed the trough on Kildare Street are raised

        it’s a state communications mechanism, a body of, an extension of the state, friendlier looking but no different fundamentally than old Pravda

        simple as that

        1. V AKA Frilly Keane

          What RTÉ has become
          What it has been allowed to become
          Cannot survive without significant top ups
          And that’s too dangerous
          IMO anyway
          We’ve already seen how comprised it is now
          Fawning to every Government whim and word

          It needs to take a hard look at itself
          strip back, and cop on
          Learn to Budget and deliver public broadcasting for the cost of the licence fee intake

          If they want to doll themselves up and treat themselves like superstars, playing kissy kissy on talkshows
          then they have to earn the expenditure themselves from advertising, sponsorship and resellable production
          Because none of that qualifies as public service broadcasting
          Self Service Broadcasting yes

          Any Government Dept top ups should be for specific investment
          Ie. It’s Player facility
          Pilots etc

    3. Joe F

      RTE are going on about their shortage in finance. Why, for example, does Morning Ireland (one of the most listened to programmes, if not the highest) not got a sponsor? Surely such a popular programme should be able to bring in a lot. The amount of advertising they have in their ad breaks is tiny, and also about half their ads are just advertising other Radio One programmes! I know it’s not a commercial station like Newstalk but they should have more ads to generate income. Plus, despite reductions recently, the pay for the “big stars” is still way too much. The likes of Joe Duffy, Ray Darcy, etc. On top of the huge salaries they’re on, don’t forget all the assistants that they have to produced their shows. We’re paying their salaries after all. Duffy was on recently about the fact that he has no pension with RTE, well he hardly needs one, how many millions has he made from RTE in the last 20 years or so?

      1. Cú Chulainn

        Of course he doesn’t have a pension from RTÉ.. he contracts his services from his own company. That’s the company he has his pension from.. !!!

      2. Cian

        Be careful what you wish for.
        More ads and sponsorship places RTE under the control of the sponsors.
        At the moment it is clear that they have a pro government bias, which we are aware of and can take that into consideration when we watch the news. But as they get more commercial the bias becomes more prevalent and more difficult to see.

    4. Alexander the Great

      Another top, top day of commenting from Ireland’s hardest working reactionary internet blowhard I see.
      In today’s edition watch as Giggidy tries to blow out a candle with his farts

        1. Charger Salmons

          GG old chap.
          Even though I enjoy the spectacle of you making a prize ass of yourself on here I’m not so cruel as to not want to see you put out of your misery.
          I am not Alexander The Great.
          You can carry on with the assumption if you wish but I’m trying to offer you a conciliatory hand to pull you out of your stew of mediocrity.

          1. GiggidyGoo

            I love watching Charger being driven slowly demented by GG
            He knows box office when he sees it.

            Every day, another Mittyism, every day put back in his box.

            Pip pip

    1. Brother Barnabas

      when he dies, he will be so dead – the deadest person there has ever been in all of history. people will travel from all over the world to marvel at his deadness. and that’s not him saying that. others- esteemed experts – are saying it.

      1. Cú Chulainn

        It will be the greatest death of all time, it will be a beautiful death, it will.. people will say, ‘what a beautiful death’.. they will, I’m an expert on death, nobody knows more about death than I do, nobody, and I’m telling you – mine will be the best death ever.. it’s true..

    2. V AKA Frilly Keane

      Be careful what you might be wishing for there Bisto

      Were that to happen
      The most dangerous fluic’er in America, Mike Pence, will front the GOP Ticket
      And get to pick his own running mate /VP

      Worse again. There’ll be a huge jump in support. And thats a mandate for the likes of Pence the whole world should be worried about

        1. Joe F

          Weren’t you the clown who was on a couple of days ago saying how “marvellous” it was that the Tories had a lead of 1%? Doesn’t matter if Bozo has laughable, embarrassing performances in front of the camera (where he doesn’t even know what HIS OWN government’s policy is), as long as he is ahead in the polls, that’s all that matters old boy. Marvellous.

          1. V AKA Frilly Keane

            Hey Charage – any chance of a follow up anseo

            And this isn’t the first time you’ve thrown rubbish up here, claiming it was mine, and didn’t came back to pick it up


      1. Bitnbox

        Don’t worry Frilly – Donald ain’t going anywhere. What is the deal with your comments about Pence? You and he probably agree on lots of issues – the plandemic and lamestream “public” media.

        1. V AKA Frilly Keane

          Don’t even attempt to tie me to Pence
          Or suggest we agree on anything – even probably

          Please provide any link or evidence where I’ve even used the expressions Plandemic / Lamestream
          Other than just now
          Otherwise PO

          And don’t even dare to hijack my posts, or attempt to collect me and my words into any of your own droppings here
          Or anywhere
          As part of whatever deranged campaign you and your pals have going now

          1. GiggidyGoo

            Quite a few crawling out of the woodwork even these past few days. Trying to lead others along. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s for a purpose, nor if some of the same IP addresses showed up for different posters.

      2. goldenbrown

        Trump will be fine
        but my mind had dared to wander into that Pence territory should himself become ahem “incapacitated”
        if that were to pass and with Barr at his side America would be irretrievably full on Handsmaid Tale lost
        we should all be very worried about what’s afoot over there

      3. bisted

        …whatever happens in the US is a lose:lose for the world…Obama bombed 8 countries after receiving the Nobel peace prize ffs…a lot of people alive today in the world under Trump than would have been the case if crooked Hillary had got her evil claws on the button…

          1. bisted

            …leaving the last remnants of ISIL, white helmets and others who were armed by the US in an effort to bring about regime change in Syria or raise the level of mayhem and displacement in the Middle East…

          2. bisted

            …I do agree that the first casulty of war is the truth…however…in saying that, I do tend to believe in people like Robert Fisk…

          3. E'Matty

            @Nige – “that’s if you believe Putin and Assad, anyway.” eh, no. That’s if you believe the US Defense Intelligence Agency Report 2012 which states “the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI (Al Qaeda in Iraq) are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” being supported by “the West, Gulf countries and Turkey”. It goes on to predict “If the situation unravels, there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality in eastern Syria…and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime”. And it continues “ISI (The Islamic State in Iraq) could also declare an Islamic State through its union with other terrorist organisations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards of unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory”.

            Would you like me to detail the Roebuck cables from the charge d’affaires in the Damascus embassy from 2006 which evidence the US policy of seeking to destablise Assad which viewed Islamist extremists transitting through Syria as an “opportunity” which the US should take action to try and increase?

            Can you please provide some information on which groups comprise the “Moderate rebels”? Or perhaps, why is it that you wanted to see Syria fall to western backed extremist wahhabist headchoppers? Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya not enough death and destruction for you?

          4. Nigel

            E’Matty – it’s all just a big bloody playgroud for Assad and Putin and the rest, yes, I’m sure there’s plenty of justification for the odd atrocity here and there.

          5. E'Matty

            @ Nige – so you cannot refute the clear documentary evidence I have provided that the US led coalition was backing Al Qaeda and other Islamist extremists to create chaos in Syria in order to destabalise the country and overthrow the Assad regime, which would have resulted in Islamic State in Syria taking power? You’re ok with the Salafist headchoppers taking control of Syria, but have a very serious issue with the Assad forces and Russia preventing that. Care to explain? Do you think Assad should have left the country and handed over power to ISIS and the other Western backed Islamists? Or are you contending that Russia should not have entered the war, resulting again in ISIS taking power? Just trying to understand your logic here.

          6. goldenbrown

            enjoying the discourse, bit like the Fr Ted episode where he corrects himself to say:

            “of course they all have lovely bottoms”

  5. E'Matty

    It was great to see such a broad mix of people at the protest from all age groups and socioeconomic backgrounds. Lots of families with kids in buggies enjoying themselves, elderly people in wheelchairs, migrants from across Europe, Africa and North and South America, members of the LGBT community, people from across the political divide of Left and Right (indeed Left and Right Unite was a common theme). There was a positive and cheerful mood amongst the protesters with plenty of laughs even when encountering one or two aggressive passersby. Walking through town and up Grafton Street was a great move. It was quite amusing to see the confused looks on so many of the mask wearing shoppers. What was most inspiring was the on point nature of many of the signs and the awareness of the global agenda at play. As they say “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”

    1. SOQ

      I get the impression YV are working hard to present themselves as politically neutral these days, which is a good thing in fairness. The problem is that in Ireland at least, the voices challenging this CoVid-19 lock down madness are all coming from the right- this despite the fact that is the poorest in society who have been thrown under the bus.

      As I have said before, I really don’t know why that is- it is certainly not the case in other European countries.

      1. Nigel

        So long as you act like have a hard time believing that other people really do think the pandemic is real and a risk and steps have to be taken in response, you will have to pretend not to not understand, and ignore the implications of the fact that the far right, who never, ever gave a toss about the poorest in society, are organising your ‘neutral’ marches.

      2. Bitnbox

        @SOQ Totally agree but Yellow Vests are growing strongly nonetheless. We need people with real smarts to front: Dolores Cahill, Hermann Kelly and maybe Marcus de Brun in the background. Labels such as left and right have no meaning anymore – this is just the preserve of progressive liberals (who have a land coming to them soon via Amy Coney Barrett).

        But for YV to succeed, we need to have real brains upfront. No Gemma O’doherty, John Waters or tiny tot Justin Barrett cartoonish types but movers and shakers who eschew labels and are deep thinkers.

          1. E'Matty

            @ NIge – How is opposing global oligarchic rule and authoritarianism a “right-wing agenda”?

          2. f_lawless

            Nigel, could you sound any more nonsensical?

            A group of people from all sorts of backgrounds, young and old, different nationalities, gathered together in solidarity to hear two doctors speak out against the misguided and oppressive nature of government policy regarding Covid-19 . No hint of any rhetoric that could be deemed “right-wing” nor were any placards with right-wing slogans visible

            Dr Rynne became famous some years ago for being the first in Ireland to offer to perform vasectomies.Seems very progressive to me.
            Dr. Morrissey appears to be a fine upstanding citizen too. GP and Medical Director for Embury Close Sheltered Housing in Adare. https://www.adaremedicalcentre.ie/our-team

            But everyone is being duped by a sinister “right-wing” agenda. Please expand on this conspiracy theory. Is there a connection with Trump?

          3. Nigel

            How can voting for Trump be a vote against oligarchic authoritarian rule? How can Brexit free the UK from oligarchic authoritarian rule? And yet equivalent claims were made, and still are. But of a giveaway, actually.


            Sspare us.

          4. Nigel

            Flawless – Trump and Brexit are just two examples of ordinary people ‘duped,’ if you want to use that word, into supporting radical right wing agendas. There’s no conspiracy, it’s just a process they appear to have perfected, exploiting wedge issues, assorted resentments, and government and istitutional failures. Soon we’ll be hearing about how criticism of this movement is ‘driving people’ to supporting and agreeing with more radical candidates and speakers, if we aren’t getting it already. There have been violent incidents surrounding these demonstrations, but they were somehow allowed to march down Grafton Street, and yet a major theme is that they are being opressed and silenced. It’s all very familiar.

          5. bisted

            …Nigel…you persist with this notion that a democratic process that didn’t give the result you want then voters were duped…such disdain for democracy…whatever about the Trump result the UK brexit result has been confirmed twice…not enough people came out to vote for crooked Hillary and Trump won by default…

          6. Nigel

            Blisted you’ll notice that I put ‘duped’ in inverted ccmmas. I have never used the word, and yet you persist in acting as though I have. The idea that ‘Trump won by default’ carries more contempt for democracy than anything I have ever said abut any election or referendum.

    2. Alexander the Great

      What’s truly gratifying is to witness all the dumbest hive mind witless uneducated reactionary gobspoos all sitting together in one place where hopefully they all have given COVID to each other, because that’s cheaper than bringing in the army. And less mess to clean up.

        1. Alexander the Great

          What? If I keep posting on here you’ll try
          to extinguish my celestial light with one of your special high density sparrow farts?

          1. Alexander the Great

            I know you think you’re a great wit there Giggidy and you know what?
            You are 50% of the way there

          2. Brother Barnabas

            I dont care what everyone else says – there’s life in that gag

            you should definitely continue to use it 2 or 3 times a day

            it doesnt at all mark you out as an unoriginal dullard

          3. Alexander the Great

            Is that the number of times a day you continue to use your Flight Aviator Brother?

          4. Brother Barnabas

            while for Alex is just his own numb hand, eyes closed, whispering the name “johnny green” aloud until the climax subsides and he’s back commenting on BS

            how many times a day is that, wong/b9/mary/alex?

            has Johnny stopped returning your calls ?


            why do you always fall in love with the wrong ones ?

          5. Alexander the Great

            I wouldn’t know love.
            Ask your sparrow farting lover above.
            He actually did secretly confide in me about his concerns about, how can we put this delicately, your lack of girth, if you know what I mean.
            But he told me he’s past that now and makes up for the satisfaction you can, sadly, not provide, by availing of the services of rent boys who come down from Dublin on the Gorey train.

          6. Brother Barnabas

            literally reduced to “you have a small penis” comebacks… dear oh dear

            I hadn’t realised it was quite that pathetic

            maybe try the halfwit line again ?

      1. E'Matty

        @ Alex – says the guy who belives what he reads in the newspapers and what politicans say. You’re funny.

        1. E'Matty

          @ Alex- oh you mean hydroxychloroquine, the medicine used for decades to treat malaria, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, porphyria cutanea tarda, and was even used to successfully treat SARS-CoV-1 (the current “pandemic” virus is SARS-CoV-2) in the early noughties, and has been used to successully treat thousands of Covid19 patients? That one?

          Well my friend, good luck to you with your flu vaccine and whichever vaccine comes out the other end of “Operation Warp Speed”.

    3. Lilly

      ‘Lots of families with kids in buggies enjoying themselves’

      Where did they all go to spend a penny?

      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        Probably why they had to sit down on grafton street. Their owners picked most of it up afterwards.

  6. SOQ

    International Network of Lawyers Will Argue the Biggest Tort Case in World History

    by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich – Truth Comes To Light October 3, 2020

    Dr. Reiner Fuellmich is a consumer protection trial lawyer in Germany and California. He is one of four members of the German Corona Investigative Committee who are now working with an international network of lawyers who will argue this biggest tort case ever, the Corona Fraud Scandal, which has meanwhile unfolded into probably the greatest crime against humanity ever.


      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        You spend 49 minutes at a time watching guff on Youtube… That explains an awful lot.

      2. SOQ

        Dr. Reiner Fuellmich already has scalps of VW in Germany and Deutsche Bank in the US- so he is a serious lawyer. I can’t find any details on the other legals, but I expect that will come out in due course. I was aware of the German Corona Investigative Committee before this as they had interviewed Delores Cahill but I assumed it was just a medical outfit, not a legal one.

        I think there will be in disbelief if true because of the scale, but we all know corruption exists and Pharma and the WHO have a track record of pushing vaccines. In that video Reiner uses the Swine Flu as an example. At its core is an argument that using PCR tests to form public policy is at best negligent because of the level of false positives but- I am open to correction on that.

        It is worth noting that Dolores Cahill stated at the rally in London last weekend that she will be serving notice on Micheál Martin as part of this class action. The term she used was malfeasance so I think it is very much a case of watch this space.

        But I have a question before the usual culprits start bitchin again- these people obviously feel very strongly about what they are doing so what happens if they are right- and all you have been told is wrong?

    1. Nigel

      ‘which has meanwhile unfolded into probably the greatest crime against humanity ever.’

      This is absolutely Qanon-level stuff, all right, God help us.

  7. Otis Blue

    You know when they do the sports news on BBC just before Match of the Day, the bit that goes “if you don’t want to know the scores, please look away now”?

    Seriously. Do it. Look away.

    If you’re going to be watching MOTD and don’t know the scores of today’s games, you’re in for a treat. Suspend your belief. Everything you know is wrong.

    Football – Bloody Hell!

    1. Brother Barnabas

      unless you’re bertie, then look away again in the 4th, 12th, 35th, 39th, 55th, 66th and 75th minutes

      although arsenal won so all grand

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