131 thoughts on “Tuesday’s Papers

  1. bisted

    …there seems to be some type of turf war breaking out over Covid-19 vaccines…again, weeks or months could be lost because of bureaucracy…

    1. Charger Salmons

      It’s not so much a turf war as fighting over scraps.
      The Pfizer jab is being delivered to a schedule based on when the customer paid for it.
      Because of EU delays and incompetence in securing sufficient quantities of vaccines it’ll be next September before Pfizer fully delivers its 200 million vaccines to the EU.
      With an EU population of 450 million other vaccines will also be needed for all member states to be covered and the EU was late in ordering those too.
      The UK will have vaccinated the equivalent of Ireland’s population by about the third week in January.
      Of course at this point Reprobertie Begorrah is going to remind us that last week he predicted Ireland would be fully vaxxed by March…

        1. millie bobby brownie

          That’s a very flattering show of faith.

          I’d be very pleasantly surprised if they manage that by March.

          1. Charger Salmons

            Particularly if the HSE is only able to vaccine ” up to ” 20,000 people per week from January if, according to an HSE source in the Irish Times last week, ” supplies are delivered into the country “.
            I doubt even all the most vulnerable groups will be fully vaxxed by March.

          2. Brother Barnabas

            in fairness, charger, we’ve seen since March that UK government pledges dont mean much

            despite all the boasts and bluster from boris, testing in the UK is a mess, track and trace is a mess, and the rate of infections and deaths is a national humiliation

            only a fool thinks 10 months of abject mismanagement and incompetence is about to be turned around

          3. Cú Chulainn

            The HSE are incompetent. Know argument there. The Pfizer vaccine is hard to administer. We are first in line for the Astra one which will be administered in chemists and GP’s.. we are still looking at next September before we will have enough of our population covered.. which is not great..

          4. Charger Salmons

            Ireland is not first in line for the Oxford University/ AstraZeneca jab.
            It’s in a queue with all the other EU countries and that queue is in another queue of countries around the world which will receive the vaccinations in the order they were ordered and paid for.
            Which in the EU’s case was very late in the day.
            The EU messed up.
            I told you about it last week.
            ” …there will not be enough vaccine available to get the pandemic under control in Germany before next autumn. The EU appears to have bought too little, too late and at times from the wrong producers. And it appears that it turned down hundreds of millions of vaccine doses that are now lacking. ”

            http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/the-planning-disaster-germany-and-europe-could-fall-short-on-vaccine-supplies-a-3db4702d-ae23-4e85-85b7-20145a898abd-amp

          5. Fergalito

            British government not reliably renowned for keeping their word or telling the truth about anything really. Maybe they’ll deliver what they say they will this time. Hopefully they will for the sake of the citizens who must keep learning the same old hard lessons about how little the Tories give a damn about anything that might be less ideological, mercenary and self-serving and more beneficial to citizenry and society.

          6. Charger Salmons

            Ireland delivered its first vaccine today.Unfortunately it doesn’t vaccinate against an inferiority complex.
            The UK is already approaching 750,000 vaccinations being delivered and is targetting one million a week by early January.
            End of.

    2. SOQ

      We already know that elderly respond least to vaccines because their immune systems are weakened- so what happens if they keep passing in the same or similar numbers after they are all jabbed for CoVid-19?

      It takes about 6 weeks for it to kick in apparently so a watch this space I suppose- well more watch the British space really. And, even if they do work, it won’t stop people dying from other things, plenty of whom are currently being categorised as CoVid-19 fatalities of course.

      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        Why do you care whether they’re vaccinated or not. Are you bothered that they’re wasting it on old people when they should be prioritising Great Barrington signatories… Even though Covid doesn’t exist anyway?

        1. SOQ

          Well if they are vaccinated and in large numbers also die from CoVid-19 then it is far from the 96% efficacy promised?

          Oh and if you had to bother reading The Great Barrington Declaration then you would know that the authors are very much in favour of vaccines.

          1. Brother Barnabas

            answer me this, daisy: if a septuagenerian dies from a virus that doesnt exist and there’s nobody there to test for it, does that person still die?

            #WakeUpSheeple

          2. SOQ

            So nobody is allowed to ask questions now is it?

            Lets remove the ‘ifs’ and assume the vast majority of over 70’s will be vaccinated but a sizable number keep dying ‘with’ CoVid-19- meaning not primary cause of death- what happens then?

            These vaccines are not marketed as helping people ‘with’ after all- only ‘from’ because ‘with’ usually means asymptomatic- meaning not sick from it.

          3. SOQ

            “Vaccines do NOT prevent infection. They simply make it easier for you to fight and beat an infection. Taking a covid vaccine will not stop someone from getting Covid, or from transmitting Covid to others. Only those who are at risk of serious illness, might benefit from a vaccine”- Dr. Marcus De Brun.

            https://twitter.com/indepdubnrth/status/1343919430095536129

            In fairness Marcus has been very consistent with this message, even for the Broadsheet interview- only the vulnerable need vaccinated.

        2. alickdouglas

          “Vaccines do NOT prevent infection. Only those who are at risk of serious illness, might benefit from a vaccine”- Dr. Marcus De Brun”

          Problem with that statement is that he’s not right. He’s generalizing and using needlessly strict definitions and he completely misunderstands risk/benefit. 1) Yes, some vaccines don’t do a great job of blocking infection (Salk Polio being one that blocks disease but not transmission). However some viral vaccines decrease the viral load and hence reduce the amount of virus shed, and–by extension–the risk of the vaccinee transmitting virus to others. If that’s the case for the SARS2 vaccines, then it makes sense to vaccinate broadly. 2) The tools do not exist to demonstrate transmission blocking; quite the opposite in fact. Because diagnostic tools are qualitatively so sensitive but poor at quantification, it’s possible to pick up virus almost anywhere. It’s not ideal to compare bacteria and viruses, but it serves as an example I can think of; modern meningococcal vaccines are higly impactful at preventing disease, but if you sample just about any vaccinee you will find a load of meningococci in their noses. Those vaccinees are ‘infected’ but not necessarily infectious. Yes, they are technically infectious if they transmit infected boogers to a susceptible, but in that case they are essentially carrying out the same role as an infected hard surface. 3) As I’ve mentioned here before, some of the vaccine trial sponsors are attempting to quantify the ability of their candidate vaccines to ‘block transmission’, but the evaluation will be done on a subset of all subjects, so it will not reach statistical significance. We are probably 5 years away from having a quantified estimate of vaccine’s capability to reduce transmission risk. 4) Vaccines licensure and use is always about benefit risk. The problem is we don’t know what the risks associated with severe COVID disease are are. There are suggestions that age, hypertension and many ‘condidtions’ are risk factors, but there are a load of others that we are probably not aware of. On the flip side, we are getting towards a point where the risks associated with vaccine are quantifiable. The only symptom I’ve heard mentioned anywhere of concern is Bells Palsy and the numbers are not significantly out of step with background. I’ve seen no data that suggests that the mRNA vaccines put me at a measurable elevated risk of anything–I could get Bells Palsy just by existing.

          1. SOQ

            We take it as on the tin which means only suppression of symptoms- not transmission. Probably a legal thing but so is governments covering the indemnity for a virus which is not ever going to affect near all of average weight under 60.

            Life is about risks- including what do some feed the kids from the back of the cupboard because there is no money to even do a shop.

            I don’t apologise if that upsets the self appointed ‘left wingers’ who have record savings on Broadsheet – me not we, all the way.

          2. SOQ

            That is your specialty surely BB? Along with your anti gay comments of course.

            Not the sharpest knife in the drawer now are we?

          3. Brother Barnabas

            “not the sharpest knife in the drawer”

            from SOQ – the tool who’s made being duped by online charlatans into a full-time hobby

            heh heh heh as the charger might say

          4. V AKA Frilly Keane

            You know
            It was the reappearance of Memes yesterday
            Still flouting his conspiracy theories – you know the one that I’m the one moderating etc behind the ‘Sheet
            That reminded me that Samie’oh was part of that same Memes Crux / AGemda Gang
            And sang those same sick verses of lies himself for a long time, like he was getting daily reminders from them

            most of that Memes Crux weren’t here for discussion, debate, banter craic or anything
            Just to throw knives because Broadsheet Mods were deleting Memes,
            bullying and harassing and spreading lies, that’s what they were groomed for
            Like the way they were threatening me with the doxing there for months
            And in fairness, there was plenty appetite for what they were trying to flog

            Point is
            Standing up for false theories as long as he gets his spoke out there, anything that keeps his fists flying, anything that gives him something to say
            SOQ will grab onto

            He has form

          5. f_lawless

            (2nd try at posting)

            I recommend watching this recent interview with Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, an infectious medicine specialist and one of Germany’s most highly cited medical research scientists. At the very start of the pandemic, he warned in vain that blanket lockdowns were a disproportionate response and that the collateral damage inflicted upon societies would be enormous.

            He’s also giving as stark warning on the new experimental vaccines: In his opinion, “to give permission to use this vaccine is criminal..that any politicians or medical people would say this is the right way to go, is horrifying to me as a doctor” “you are going to plant the seed of auto-immune reactions”

            https://www.instagram.com/tv/CI7DhBdnkz_/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

          6. f_lawless

            Are you making a point in relation to Dr Bhakti’s interview? I don’t follow.

            Edit: (He’s a ‘specialist in infectious disease medicine’-I meant to say my initial comment)

          7. bisted

            …just saying they started vaccinating today without you…one of the other ratlickers even suggested that the Great Barrington signatories were pro-vaxxers…see what happens when you take a few days off…

          8. SOQ

            @ BB I am not going to respond you anymore because you clearly don’t want to discuss the topic- just sneer and snipe. But one thing you don’t get to do is make reference to my sexuality as though it is fair game- it is not.

            @ V I have repeatedly said I have no idea what happened to you and had and have part or no interest in you outside of what you post here.

            If my ‘me not we’ comments unsettle you there really is not a lot I can do about that because there is nothing worse than a bunch of hypocrites claiming the moral high ground when is is blatantly obvious that the only thing they really care about is themselves.

          9. f_lawless

            Perhaps you should take a break from here yourself? You don’t appear to be in a healthy state of mind using labels like “ratlicker”.

            Also, speaking for myself, there’s a big distinction between being “ethical/ safe-vax” and “anti-vaxx”. Why is that so hard to grasp?

            As for those behind the Great Barrington initiative, did you think to look it up before commenting?

            https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-end-lockdowns-next-month-11608230214

            “Although the lockdowns should have been abandoned much earlier, the end is finally at hand with the advent of the vaccines. Then the work of repairing the damage can begin.” – Bhattacharya & Gupta

          10. V AKA Frilly Keane

            Stoppit Samie’oh

            You repeatedly accused me of moderating posts here
            You also accused me of other user names

            Despite Bodger posting a direct reply to you confirming that I do not and never did moderate here
            Likewise with those users themselves confirming you were wrong

            Multiple times Same’oh
            Over at least 18 months

            You SOQ You Same Old Queen
            You. And from now on. When ever I see one crop up in the older archive posts that resurface. I will shove it into your face.
            Just in case you try to forget that carry on as much as you try to forget your porno links

    3. realPolithicks

      Only in Ireland during a global pandemic would the rollout of a vaccine be done on a Mon-Fri 9-5 basis, if that’s correct then it’s an absolute joke.

      1. Micko

        Agreed.

        This is one of the major issues I have with this whole thing.

        We keep being told that this virus is really serious. But every time the government have to put something in place it drops the ball and seems like it’s not taking it seriously.

        Never mind Golfgate, RTE scandal, politicians and celebs getting caught out breaking the rules. Track and trace failures, HSE failures, no noteworthy ICU increase etc.

        It’s BS

        1. millie bobby brownie

          It’s quite the damning list, when laid out like that.

          As I said yesterday, where is the urgency? Office hours just doesn’t cut it after 9 months of lockdown, many lives and livelihoods destroyed, and cases rising again, to name but a few.

          1. Charger Salmons

            It’s entirely possible that Mon-Fri 9-5 is all that is needed for the amount of vaccine Ireland can expect over the next few months.
            The EU must have given every country a clear schedule of when to expect them based on EU procurement and expected delivery date.
            The HSE has had months to plan for this.

          2. Micko

            Absolutely. No urgency at all.

            Also, I see Ireland has just overtaken China in its number of CV cases. 88k to 87k

            So there’s always that… :)

          3. SOQ

            China doesn’t seem to think that asymptomatics spread either- then again they wouldn’t have the same number of high end civil service careers to save I suppose.

  2. Charger Salmons

    Six million euros to fund a few hundred middle-class NI kids take a jolly year in Europe and to provide health cover for those Nordies who can’t be arsed to take out travel insurance for two weeks in Santa Ponsa ?
    I can think of a much better use for €6million in Ireland than an expensive bit of virtue-signalling.
    Like paying for Covid-19 vaccinations to be delivered in care homes at weekends.

    1. bisted

      …you, more than most on here, should be welcoming of the brexit bounce that the North is about to benefit from…it’s payback time…the best of both worlds…in the EU and not…money from all directions, the South, the EU, and the good ol’USA…seems a bit unfair that you may have to contribute twice…heh x 6

        1. bisted

          …you tell me how dumb or otherwise she is…afterall, isn’t she one of your own…as Sammy says, 100 percent British…ps Arlene also believes that only republicans catch covid and that DUP members are therefore immune…

        2. Cú Chulainn

          No your quite right there.. there is absolutely no fathoming just how profoundly stupid Arlene and her creationist friends are..

          1. GiggidyGoo

            Good man BB. Now if you can produce a link to where I say I am anti- vax, that would be helpful to your argument. If you can’t, then (as usual) your post is a ball of poo.
            You, on the other hand admit you’re various things I suppose. Homophobic being one. (Want a link?)

          2. Junkface

            @bisted
            “…I have it on good authority -Chompsky- that Bodger is no longer a flat-earther…”

            What, what, what !!??
            Surely that’s a joke no? Were there ever flat-earthers on broadsheet comments? Ha ha! I hope not, dear God! How dumb does someone need to be to fall into that slot?
            The doc on Netflix about them is hilarious.

          3. GiggidyGoo

            7 hours later. No linkies then BB? In other words, you’re full of it. Do you know why you can’t find any links? Simples.

          4. Brother Barnabas

            you’re sad enough to trawl the site- going back 2 years in one case – to cite comments, but I’m not

            simples

          5. Brother Barnabas

            no, but, yes, giggidy linked to a comment from Frillz from a couple of years ago in order to ‘win’ some point or other

          6. GiggidyGoo

            Yep. Full of it.
            Why do the likes of you come on here and throw out lies time after time? Are you that stuck for attention?

            I referenced V by the way. To a spat during this year where there was a denial of a particular post, only for a confirmation a couple of days ago by the denier.

            I didn’t copy a link.

            And like you try I was made out to be a liar originally.

          7. bisted

            …ah do you remember the good old days…when every other commenter on Broadsheet was a legal expert…now it’s coming down in medical advice…surely, more experts per column inch than any other publication…

        3. Tommy Bohan

          I asked you yesterday why you lived in Ireland Mr Salmons. You didn’t reply but avoided it by asking another question! You write that people on here are not able to debate with you! Well I will ask you again, the very same easy question! If Ireland is so backward in so many ways, why don’t you live in your own country of England? You keep going on about how great it is! Please answer this easy question! Otherwise you look silly!

          1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            in fairness, the man is in no way obliged to justify his personal living situation,
            one cannot always stay where they wish for personal reasons, living somewhere doesn’t mean you have to blindly adore it or mean that you can’t point out room for improvement,
            not defending Chargers nonsense, just don’t really think your point makes as much sense as you do

      1. Charger Salmons

        Have they ?
        Erasmus+ is popular among the affluent middle-classes but very rarely helped people from genuinely disadvantaged backgrounds.
        https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0958928719899339
        The new Turing scheme will see over £100 million spent on helping 35,000 young people from universities, colleges and schools throughout the UK including NI go on placements and exchanges around the world from next September, including to Europe but not just to Europe.
        It will target those schools and areas that did not see many people participate in Erasmus+.
        http://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-turing-scheme-to-support-thousands-of-students-to-study-and-work-abroad
        I suppose the lesson to learn is not believe everything you read and hear from people and organisations with a vested interested in saying nice things about the EU.

        1. Oro

          Reason it only helps people from middle class is because the UK third level fee system is designed to exclude people from working classes. So the only eligible ppl in the first place are already more affluent. You’ve worded it strangely.

          Second note since I can’t reply to your earlier message, 1m vaccines / week also means the UK won’t be able to get the vaccine under control until next autumn (pop UK 67m – 19% (under 16s) gives pop needing vaccine 55m (of which 75% need vaccine to gain proper control = 40m, rate of 1m/week = 40 weeks = October 2021). You should follow the numbers through. You also of course need to allow at least three weeks for the second injection so I’d say they’re looking at Xmas 2021 based on your number. Who knows maybe they’ll be able to speed things up. Or maybe your numbers were wrong.

          1. Charger Salmons

            The difficult Pfizer jab with two doses and very low temperatures to store it is just the start.
            Once the much simpler single-dose and fridge-temperature Oxford Universityt/AstraZeneca vax comes on stream then there’ll be a massive upscaling, particularly as the UK government has first dibs thanks to its big early investment.
            The predictions are that everyone in the at-risk category will be sorted by the end of February.
            A combination of early summer mass vaccination for the rest plus the inevitable downward curve of the virus as summer approaches should do the trick.
            But I have grave concerns about the early New Year both here and the UK.

          2. Oro

            Ok but you said 1m/week which leaves the UK in the same territory as the Germans for suitable vaccination levels per what you mentioned upthread. I’m confused – are you now suggesting that the numbers you quoted a few hrs ago are incorrect? There seems to be a shifting of parameters in what you claimed between earlier and now, based on what seems to be Ur not understanding what those numbers you listed earlier meant. Am I missing something?

    2. ( ̄_, ̄ ) AKA Frilly Keane

      C’mere Charage
      How is it virtue signalling if all they’re doing is continuing an arrangement that has existed between the HSE and the NHS NI – and the Health Boards/ NHS NI before that

      There has been shared services between the Irish Health Services and NI for years
      Just one example
      In my day anyway, early babies in NI were brought down here to our specialist early baby units, same for surgeries on premies and newborns.
      For which we here would have credit for treatments up thur’
      like cataracts, or stents etc
      Same with blood banks
      And our maternity care is open to NI residents btw
      If that NCH ever gets organised, you can bet your next pie that children from NI will be treated there, and under the very same terms and conditions and standards as our own children and grandchildren

      There are loads of shared services agreements,
      Usually worked out on a Contra accounting basis
      whether tis healthcare services or electricity exchanges
      ever hear of the expression Paddy Power/ Orange Juice

      Back in the old landline only days, P&T/ then Eircom, we were only ever charged intercounty rates for calls from here to there, there was never an 0044 etc prefix then
      Same for Dept of Ag inspections
      They were all Paddys there that time on the last Foot & Mouth outbreak

      Seriously, grow up lad
      NI Voted to Remain, and not just by a slim margin, if memory serves 55:45

      I don’t know why you’re so cocky about Brexit tbh
      Nobody knows what its full cost/ benefit will be for at least five years, maybe even ten
      In which case that 80 seat majority your strutting relies on so much on will count for SFA when those results become known

      All this hoo haa about fishing rights is blowhole hyperbole anyway
      shur the UK Fishermen sold off their quotas years ago to the big factory ship Fish Companies
      Do British Fishermen even have 10% of their own quotas in their own hands anymore?

      1. Charger Salmons

        I’m delira with the outcome of Brexit.
        The UK is legally out of the EU, we save our massive contribution to the budget, we have economic access to the single market without tarrifs, in 5.5 years time we’ll have a big increase in fish caught in UK waters and still retain full access for British boats to continue fishing in EU waters and NI takes a step closer towards a unified Ireland.
        Negotiations over the UK service industry access to the EU get underway in the new year against the backdrop of more people employed in the City of London ever before.
        Despite Covid-19 UK tech raised a record £11bn in venture capital this year which was more than France and Germany combined.
        Last week the UK overtook India to regain its place as the 5th largest economy in the world.
        Boris’ deal also provides certainty for British industry and I expect a lot more inward investment to Blighty from major international investors who’ve been holding back.
        Most importantly of all democracy prevailed.
        There wasn’t a second referendum as was the case with the Irish and the Nice and Lisbon treaties.
        What’s not to like ?

        1. ( ̄_, ̄ ) AKA Frilly Keane

          Good for you, and frankly, I couldn’t give’ah what yis do
          and if it comes to it, like the UK does become the land of gold and where dreams do come true, shur I’m entitled to Dual Nationality anyway. or whatever tis called now

          But what I do care about is the likes of you forgetting that the Paddys have- in most State services and agencies, always treated NI – the occupied counties like, as one of us

          You sneered at the Paddys providing Health Care, shur we always did anyway, only now Brexit has given us the permission to upcharge for the treatments, and withhold until the balances are matching in the Contra accounts/ agreements. Brexit allows the HSE now to charge what they like to NHS NI. Suppose you could say they can do the same to the HSE, but they won’t cause the Paddys can go off and negotiate treatment puchases or Contra agreements with any of the NHS Trusts, or any other set up in EU

          You sneered at the EU undertaking to maintain the Erasmus programme for NI students
          Shur why wouldn’t they? for all we know, yourself included. Yis could well be having another referendum in 10 years to come back into the EU

          As a lad said on the twitter
          We’re all playing Chess, and you’re all playing poker
          Your crowd went into these Deal negotiations with only the 1st Jan 2021 on their agenda

          No wonder Sammy & the dupes said NO
          good luck t’ yis
          Him and his lot are your problem – try finding the money to pay that crowd off without anyone knowing now

        2. bisted

          …as you know Charger, you are not alone in welcoming the brexit referendum vote finally being honoured…well sort of…firstly, the democratic wishes of England and Wales have indeed been honoured…first by referendum and reinforced by general election where brexit support was tested.
          Scotland and NI clearly vote against brexit…while I cannot speak for Scotland, the outcome will hasten the reunification of Ireland…the process should formally get underway immediately…could I suggest a transition arrangement similar to that with Hong Kong – about 30 years should be fine…in fact, if that nice Mr Patten is available please ask him to drop over…and bring the one he prepared earlier…a bit like Boris did with Mrs May’s deal…

          1. Charger Salmons

            Why are you asking me ?
            Talk to your local TD.That’s what they’re there for.
            I couldn’t give a monkey’s about NI or Scotland.

          2. bisted

            …not asking you anything Charger…just agreeing with you…I too don’t give a monkeys about England and I too am delira that you’ve got brexit done…pity you capitulated at the end and didn’t fulfil the voters wishes…but…

        3. Tommy Bohan

          Why are you not answering my easy question? I’ll ask again! Since England is such a wonderful country and you always seem to be giving out about things in Ireland, why are you living here? That is a very straight forward question! Answer please!!

        4. Toby

          The Brit fawning here is truly painful. Grow a pair guys, would you accept that kind of treatment of a people by anyone else except a gloating coloniser?

  3. Tommy Bohan

    I had a little laugh when I realized the Daily Mail shown above is actually the British version!! Just goes to show you how “Englishy” the Irish version has become! It is so hard to tell them apart these days, the amount of Irish material in it is so little. I wonder did Broadsheet see it? I presume it puts the Irish ones first and then the British ones? Why then does the Irish Independent come way down the list, it is by far the largest selling daily paper. Putting it below the British Daily Mail is odd to say the least! Anyway Mr Charger Salmons will be happy with that!!

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      I think BS puts them up in the order they get them. The Brit papers (with a few Oirish pages) are published a lot earlier than the Irish ones.

      1. Charger Salmons

        Indeed.
        It seems peverse to criticise a service provided freely by BS late at night on virtually every day of the year.
        You can’t please everyone …

    1. Rosette of Sirius

      Seemingly so. I’ve been off the past 10 days and get back to it mid next week. Keeping off the webz too. This is body and soul recharge time for me and always take a few weeks out. Speaking of Soul. The new Pixar flick. Very good and very enjoyable.

      1. V AKA Frilly Keane

        If you’re looking for a bitta craic and cheezecake for the brain Rosie
        While you’re still in your jimjams and reindeer slippies, crisp sangwiches with real butter for brekkie

        The Prom

        Speaking of recharging, Since Christmas day, in fairness, I must admit to sleeping 12 13 hours straight meself. That’s four nights back2back
        Whereas I haven’t been sleeping more that 5 hours a night since late September start of October
        Also got some good news/ outcome stuff today
        Makes all the difference

        Have actually started writing again – well just drafts/ notes/ thoughts ideas stuff

        But Yeah. This recharging is something I’m going to take more seriously in future

        Happy New Year Rosie

        1. Rosette of Sirius

          You too V’Nessa….. Reading lots, playing the records I got from Santy, couple of boards games (tell ya what, Snakes and Ladders at this age is not good for the ticker – total buzz-wreck!), couple of runs and bike rides – short ones, not the gone for the day types…. all that and a bitta telly… Still can’t get mote than 5 hours sleep mind you…. maybe the day before i go back I’ll get more…

          Looking forward to reading more from you….!

  4. SOQ

    Your wan (Eileen) with the diesel laundered botox and shoveled make up on the 6 news reading the CoVid-19 case numbers reminds me of Shirley Temple Bar reading the bingo numbers when she was on the gak.

  5. Ger

    Flights banned from rhe uk, unless you donate to fg.

    Gulfstream jet just flew from luton airport to dublin.

    Does this mean that covid is not so bad after all?

  6. Clampers Outside

    Woohoo!
    … and breathe…

    My good wife is just out of major surgery and all has gone well :)

    A “radical hysterectomy”.

    The long and short… During CT and MRI scans done for assessing the extent of recently diagnosed endometriosis dark lumps were discovered.
    The consultants said they “don’t like the look of that”… and that the “whole lot” (hence the ‘radical’ bit) would have to come out.
    And that was barely three weeks ago.

    Now she’s over the scary bit. And recovering.

    …although, before the surgery, she said I’m in for a whole lot of “crazy-scary” over the next few months…haha!
    Never has she lost her humour in all this and is eternally grateful for the wee man we have.

    Damn it, I love that wife of mine! She’s a trooper, my super trooper! :)

    1. millie bobby brownie

      Awwww Clamps. Hope your wife makes a smashing recovery and that 2021 brings you and your family nothing but good and lovely things. Hope you and the wee lad are doing well while looking after Mrs Clamps. When one suffers, the whole family suffers, or at least that’s what I’ve found. X

    2. V AKA Frilly Keane

      Ah well isn’t that great news
      (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ – look socially distanced n’ all

      Hon’ the Clamps

      Tis been some year for ye, all the same
      Managing this diagnosis with your wife, carrying the load, being a friend and a partner, a parent
      Christmas with a toddler
      Moving House
      Losing another AI
      Now the post surgery recovery

      2021 can only be all good news for ye lads
      Bring in on
      Happy New Year Clamps pp

    3. Rosette of Sirius

      Jeepers that’s awful yet a serious relief…. Wishing you and your wife and the wee gassun all the best at this time and for the new year….

    4. Clampers Outside

      Thanks to all of you, I’ve something me eye now…

      Big thanks V, Micko, Cian, Rosette, Brother B and of the always lovely Janet.
      I crashed early last night… And then later, the wee man waking up in the middle of the night, looking either side of him and only seeing myself said “Mama? “… the little sweetie, heart melting…. a first, that he missed her like that.
      She’ll be home soon, says I.

      Thanks again all, and Happy Birthday Papi!! :)

  7. Papi

    Best of luck, Clamps, rooting for ye! All will be well, and and will be well, and all manner of things will be well.

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