42 thoughts on “Monday’s Papers

  1. Charger Salmons

    Charger’s Vax Facts™ #45 ( Irish NHS angels edition )
    Sensational vaccine news from the UK, with a record-breaking 609,010 doses being administered yesterday taking the overall total to 9,468,382.
    To put it into context that’s equivalent to just under the entire population of Ireland receiving two doses each this January.
    It’s not expected Ireland will actually be able to do this before early 2022.

    Ireland’s official total of 161,500 has remained unchanged since Wednesday.

    In his interview on the Andrew Marr show Taoiseach Michael Martin congratulated the UK on its vaccine success, pointing out that it also benefits large numbers of Irish people who live on the mainland.
    He also reminded viewers that a lot of Irish people work in the wonderful NHS too.

    Thanks to all of them from everyone in Blighty.

    1. Joe F

      Good evening Charger Salmons/Admiral Nelson/Kate etc
      No comment from you on how well the UK is doing in the deaths from virus statistics? Or does that not count?
      Anyway, over 106,000 deaths making the UK 5th highest out of 221 countries for deaths per million population. Ireland currently 45th. Good job Bozo.

      1. ida

        UK: All deaths 28 days after a positive covid death.
        This means that not all deaths recorded in the UK are covid related, however they have recorded an excess death rate of 70,000 (2020 compared to 2019).
        That would equate to 5,000 excess deaths in Ireland.

        A death due to COVID-19 is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness, in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID disease (e.g. trauma).

        So in Ireland a death from old age is recorded as a Covid death even if the deceased had no symptoms.
        According to CSO, Ireland had excess deaths of around 1,200 in 2020 up to October.

        So is the UK death rate really that worse than Ireland? Impossible to say with any certainty.

        1. Cian

          (a) “That would equate to 5,000 excess deaths in Ireland.”
          (b) ” Ireland had excess deaths of around 1,200 in 2020 ”

          5000 > 1200

          so yes, UK death rate is really worse than Ireland

          1. Charger Salmons

            One is a largely rural,poorly-connected country and the other is a mass-populated,heavily-urbanised world transport hub connected to the European continent by train and tunnel.
            It’s like comparing the absence of C-19 on the Isle of Wight with the fatality rate in London.

        2. Joe F

          Did you miss maths classes when you were at school? If Ireland had excess death rate of 1,200 then 5,000 is approximately 4 times that death rate. Of course that is much worse.
          On a separate but very related point, the number in the UK is very probably considerably higher (maybe 40,000 higher) as deaths in care homes seemingly are not properly counted, which makes the comparison between the 2 countries even greater.

    2. Redundant Proofreaders Society

      We watched the Taoiseach’s interview on the Andrew Marr Show.
      At no point was the term “the mainland” referenced.
      Geographically and politically, there is no such term in the context of Anglo-Irish relations. Be very careful with this false para-phrasing, as it could be construed as provocative and dangerous within the current era of peace and reconciliation.

      1. Joe F

        That’s funny when you mention the word “provocative” when replying to Charger Salmons/Kate/Admiral Nelson etc etc!!!

  2. Charger Salmons

    Charger’s Belly-achers Bellwhether™ ( Banquo’s Ghost Edition )

    I took the day off from Broadsheet.
    Even the Lord rested on the Seventh Day.

    On my return I find more than 60 comments about me wondering either where I was, complaining about my presence on BS or if I was in cahoots with the mods. You know, like half the posts for the entire day.

    Jeez lads, I know we’re in lockdown but haven’t you got anything better to do on a Sunday ?


    1. Joe F

      You took the day off? I’m afraid the old amnesia must be setting in Kate?
      So you are Charger Salmons/Admiral Nelson/Kate and how many more aliases? Why do you feel the need for so many identities?
      And you took the time to count the comments, what does that say about you?

  3. Charger Salmons

    Bish bash Bosch

    Soccer news from the Dutch Eerste Divisie over the weekend where home side Excelsior were held to a 4-4 draw by visitors Den Bosch.

    Excelsior were leading 2-0 at half-time and added a further two in the second half before an amazing four-goal comeback by Den Bosch, all scored by their in-form shooter Jizz Hornkamp.

    There was no extra time and the match wasn’t decided by a toss-up.

    You can soak up all the action here.


    1. Joe F

      And any response to your disgusting remarks about those unfortunate Vietnamese people who lost their lives in the most painful, lingering way? Of course not, but you had no problem joking about their situation. Any normal person would not sleep easy at night after writing the bile you wrote. Shame on you.

      1. Steph Pinker

        I apologise if I’m wrong, but the TnCs (for the want of a better description) seem to be written more sarcastically and cynically than before. It’s probably justified though.

  4. Daisy Chainsaw

    Good luck to Captain Tom in his fight against the ‘rona. He’s done more for the NHS than Boris and the tories ever will.

    Where’s the announcement for £350million a week? The first 4 weeks of Brexit are up, but there’s been no news of over a billion extra spent.

    1. Formerly known as @ireland.com

      It should have been possible to keep old Tom safe from Covid. Someone did something wrong.

      1. newsjustin

        He had pneumonia so couldn’t get the vaccine, despite him being top of the list, apparently.

        As we know, when COVID is everywhere, with community transmission rife, it is essentially impossible to prevent it creeping into nursing homes.

  5. Shayna 56

    To be fair to Vanessa, I thought the same thing – his (Colonel, Sir Tom – to give the guy his full title – he kinda earned it – £32Million for The NHS) underlying medical conditions, it seems, ironically mean’t he didn’t get the jab(s).

  6. Shayna 56

    I know it’s not a Monday Papers story, but can I mention that 4,000 people were arrested today in Russia? I was watching a live report on SkyNews this morning – the correspondent was interviewing a Russian man holding the Russian flag – mid-sentence, he was dragged away by 4 “cops” – blatantly – in front of tv cameras, The brutality was filmed – I’m beyond words, ineffable. No condemnation of Putin? That was Moscow, similar scenes in St.Petersburg, well, throughout Russia. “A civilian” approached the reporter from SkyNews – he told her that that guy was a known trouble-maker, Anti-Russia – she (the reporter) insisted, but he was waving a Russian flag – the “Civilian” replied, ‘he was probably going to burn it’? Who knows what Covid levels are in Russia? Not riots – they cannot be deemed so. Merely quiet protests over the arrest of Alexei Navalny. I’ve never been to Russia – met lots of Russians on my travels, they say, Shayna – you must come to Moscow? Net, spasibo is Shayna’s retort. As much as a socialist as I am – kinda don’t fancy a Gulag living. The Kibbutz, perhaps in Palestine (Sorry the Israeli bit) – well, it’s a tad sunnier than Siberia? Since, I began to write this – it’s now 4,500 arrests in Russia. It’s difficult to fathom 4,500 arrests in an island like Ireland in one day? Where are they taken? Russia is enormous. In India and China, they estimate their populations as billions, plus or minus 10/20 million.people. 4,500 in Russia today? Shouldn’t there be an appeal by World leaders for the release of these civilians of Russia? Pojaluista!

    1. Charger Salmons

      Rather wonderfully a toilet brush painted gold is now the symbol of Navalny protest in Russia, after revelations about Putin’s opulent ‘dacha’ near the Black Sea.
      I wish them well but if Vlad the Bad is prepared to openly poison his own citizens in the West he will crush this revolt without mercy.

    2. Junkface

      I really hope this is a turning point for Russia and Putin. He has got to go. The theft and corruption over the last 20 years has been colossal, and the Russian people have been brutalized, journalists and political opponents murdered or poisoned. Nevalny seems to have awoken something alright. I hope he succeeds. The international community needs to stand up and make sure these 4,000 people are not harmed.

      Also, Putin knows that he will never be able to retire and live in peace. That’s not how it goes for (wannabe) Czars in Russia, they end up shot dead by a mob.

  7. Shayna 56

    I’ve since emailed the Russian Ambassador to Ireland on behalf of the Socialists of Ireland to release the 4,500 civilians of Russia. The Socialists of Ireland – so far – 1 member- myself. It sounded quite grandiose in the email?

  8. GiggidyGoo

    Our very own Annie Oakley, aka Mairead McGuinness wants us to believe that she wasn’t aware of the plan to invoke Article 16.
    Another two-faced liar. No surprise there of course, given her political background.

  9. Dr.Fart

    Vintners assoc. should’ve gotten as cozy with FF as the construction industry did. Hospitality closed, but not a whiff of a stop for construction.

  10. benblack

    Shouldn’t let this day pass without a mention of Saint Brigid and the reed crosses we all made in the schools of old.

    A little bit of history from the associationofcatholicpriests.ie


    Not trolling, just thought it should be mentioned in the news section, is all.

    St Brigid of Kildare, Abbess, Co-Patron of Ireland

    Our Scriptures for today reflect the generous, devoted spirit of Saint Brigid of Kildare. How well Job’s phrases on showing loving concern for others apply to her. In pondering his life, Job muses, “I have never withheld anything the poor desired” and elsewhere, “the stranger has not lodged in the street. for I have opened my doors to the traveler.” Like him, Brigid was whole-hearted in the ministry of helping people in need, convinced of the principle that “the measure you give will be the measure you get back.”

    Born in at Faughart, near Dundalk, County Louth, in the middle of the 5th century, probably in the latter years of Saint Patrick’s ministry in Ireland, Brigid refused several offers of marriage, in order to become a nun in the service of Christ and his church. With seven other young women she settled for a time at the foot of Croghan Hill, but moved then to the plains of the Liffey Valley, where under a large oak tree she erected her famous convent of Cill-Dara, that is, “the church of the oak” (now Kildare). She died there half a century later, on the first of February, 525. The most ancient life of St Brigid is by Broccan, (d. 650). Then the “Second Life” was composed in the 8th century by Cogitosus, a monk of Kildare. An interesting feature of this work is his description of the Cathedral of Kildare, whose Round Tower may date back to the sixth or seventh century.

    Brigid’s strong personality and example ensured that her community served their neighbours, through various acts of mercy. Soon her small oratory at Cill-Dara (the chapel-at-the-oak) became a centre of religion and learning, and later developed into a small city. She founded two monastic institutions, one for men, and the other for women, and apparently held jurisdiction over both of them. According to her biographer, she chose St Conleth “to govern the church along with herself.” For centuries, Kildare was ruled by a double line of abbot-bishops and abbesses, the abbess of Kildare being the leader of all the convents in Ireland.

    During the raids by the Norsemen in the 9th century, Brigid’s relics were taken for safety to Downpatrick, where they were interred in the tomb of St Patrick and St Columcille, and since 1190 they rest in Downpatrick Cathedral. The three, Patrick, Brigid and Columcille, have for centuries been regarded as the three main patron saints of Ireland.

    Even after 1500 years, the iconic Brigid, known as Mary of the Gael, is very dear to Irish hearts, and Brigid, Breege or “Bridie” preponderates as a female Christian name. Hundreds of place-names in her honour are to be found all over the country, e.g. Kilbride, Brideswell, Tubberbride, Templebride, etc. While her main monument is in Kildare town, she is also keenly remembered in her birthplace at Faughart, in County Louth. The old St Brigid’s well adjoining the ruined church there dates from antiquity and still attracts pilgrims today.

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