A nun along the route of a march for freedom in London gives her opinions on Corona virus 🤯 pic.twitter.com/MmsgcEt2SM
— Citizen 1 (@citizen1448) May 30, 2021
Yesterday.
London, England.
Meanwhile…
Not covered by BBC, of course. Droves of lockdown protesters flood London for weekly ‘Freedom March’ (VIDEOS) — RT UK News https://t.co/yaNgqLezhJ
— D. William Norris – Contra Tyrannos (@dwilliam9940) May 31, 2021
Meanwhile…
Saturday.
GPO, O’Connell Street, Dublin 1.
Pics by KN
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Hyde Park looked like fun eh?
Everyone knows “right wing fascists” love them a bit of funk.
Right wing fascists hate funk, I’m sure, but they love dupes who consume their ideology in palatable bite-size populist chunks and cover for them by playing the funk real loud. Mad about masks, but not about thousands of unnecessary deaths caused by a dithering government at the outset of the pandemic or the astonisihing amuont of money wasted on opportunistic cronyism? Good work, guys. Con 52%!
Once more for the slow learners and those who are bending over backwards to make this suit their own narrative- THIS IS NOT A LEFT / RIGHT THING? Unless supporting a trillion dollar pharma industry is now left wing politics- which wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.
But anti-mask rhetoric is came straight out of giggling right-wing edgelord internet chanland, same as Qanon and Pizzagate, early and easily adopted in Trumpland. Just because it’s succeeded in taking hold outside that sphere doesn’t change where it came from. You think denying people life-saving vaccines because you don’t like the industry is an ethical political position to take, or a bit of populist holier-than-thou posturing? You go into a pandemic with the pharma industry you have, not the pharma industry you wish you had,
I’m sure you’ll agree, Nigel, that an ideological opponent taking a position against a policy is not in itself an argument in favour of that policy. That being so, the provenance of an idea is far less interesting than the merits of the idea itself.
That’s the general idea of representative democracy – parties ruling through compromise and give and take. (Not that we really approve of that sort of thing in Ireland – that’s why everyone’s rolling up their sleeves to give the Greens a kicking rather than usefully tackling the problem of people endlessly returning FF/FG.) It’s becoming increasingly untenable, though, if we agree that the pharma industry is evil but can’t agree that a pandemic is real. What useful policy can come out of that disparity?
Completely agree with you Nigel, and I’m sure there are countless others on here who do.
I don’t know where you get the patience to keep replying to SOQ and Micko etc.
They are classic cases of Dunning-Kruger syndrome, and they have no interest in anything other than seeking attention.
‘The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. This tends to occur because a lack of self-awareness prevents them from accurately assessing their own skills.’
Right wing fascist no longer means what Nigel thinks it means. In fact, thanks to over use out of historical context, now, when uttered by those who laughably call them selves Anti-fascist, ‘right wing’ signifies ordinary decent people seeking common sense from their political servants.
In fact, history tells us that fascism is a left-wing ideoloREEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
“ The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. ”
Ah yes. Nilbert. The old Dunning Kruger effect. Used to make people feel smarter coz they saw it in an episode of QI once.
I note you left out the word “Hypothetical” when you copied that description from the Wiki page. Ya big science buff ya
Scarlet for ya ;0)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
‘Right wing fascist no longer means what Nigel thinks it means.’
You can tell how carefully the commenter has thought about this since I haven’t actually used the word ‘fascist.’
Nigel, is this not you then?
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2021/05/31/warrior-nun/#comment-2318227
“Right wing fascists hate funk”
Or is it some other Nigel?
Hah! You got me. In the dim and distant before times of earlier this morning. You’re right, though I was repeating Micko’s words, as I generally think the f word is a misnomer for modern right wing authoritarianism.
Keep telling yourself that while racist bigots organise regularly organise rallies in Ireland. Denial is not just a river in Egypt, eh?
I keep asking this question and you keep ignoring it- what is so different between Dublin and London protests? And please do not tell me that crowd in London at the weekend were right wing- they were not.
Well the difference is people turned out for this weekend’s london rally!
That is not the question- and you know it.
It’s right wing agitators capitalising on the gullibility and stupidity of anti vaxxers.
Ah right.
So they’re NOT right wing fascists now
But
They’re CONTROLLED by right wing fascists.
Cool. Sounds legit.
Did ya get a bit too much sun the weekend Nigel?
Did we start believing in conspiracies now?
No. influenced by is not the same as controlled by. if you need to change what I say to argue against it maybe your arguments aren’t all that great.
Ah ok, so YOUR “influenced by the right” conspiracy is totally legit.
But every other conspiracy is rubbish.
Check!
Sounds like ya need one of these buddy.
https://youtu.be/79Gx83uH0Kw
It’s not a conspiracy since it’s quite out in the open, but even if it were, ‘all ideas that can be labeled as conspiracy theories must be equally true or unture’ is a ridiculous position to take.
What’s “in the open?” Where?
The anti-mask protests started in the US, with heavily armed hard-core right-wing Trump supporters invading State Capitols and yelling at people, fed from the feverswamp of online conspiracy networks such as Qanon, which came out of 4chan, 8chan, 8kun, whatever. Next thing you see right-wing fringe groups adopting the same rhetoric over here and in the UK, and that rhetoric, mingling sensible criticism with paranoid conspiracies, spreads out into the mainstream, finding people like yourself and SOQ and others. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s the spread of ideas, including disinformation.
But if you want these ideas to be represented politically, where are you going to turn? None of the mainstream parties represent them, barring a few opportunists. Who does openly express these ideas? The National Party! What a dilemma for people who believe passionately and sincerely that the pandemic is some sort of nasty authoritarian hoax, a trojan horse for repressive government powers and corporate greed but who do not think of themselves, would NEVER class themselves as far right. What to do, what do.
It’s not a conspiracy, it’s 21st century radicalisation politics at work.
What a load of waffle Nigel.
So it’s not in the open at all then. It’s in your head.
You sound more like a classic conspiracy theorist case everyday. Seeing connections where they don’t exist.
Exactly the type who think everyone else is “duped” and only YOU know exactly what is “going on”.
Maybe you should start your own Infowars style channel there Alex.
A few more YouTube clips should set me straight.
useful idiots
Right, so you’re trying to say that these people are all controlled by some sort of fascist, eh, Conspiracy & that they are, in your opinion, protesting about the Wrong Thing? Have you been on the internet again, Nigel?
I refer you to my reply to Micko @12.33 above.
Shhh K
Nigel has seen the truth. He knows what’s going on.
It’s the secret far right cabal in the US that is duping all of us.
Apparently it’s just like when the republicans meet in The Simpsons.
Mr Burns, Dracula, Rainier Wolfcastle.
They’re all there.
:0)
#Clownworld
https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Springfield_Republican_Party
Again, if you have to make up stuff I didn’t say to argue against it, your arguments are pretty worthless.
Interesting that you omit the fact that that figure was acheived in conjunction with lockdown measures
I always get my medical advice from both drum circles and nuns.
you’ll like the new maternity hospital so ;)
Birds of Pray
i was struck by the one drummer going ‘bom-bom, bom-bom-bom, bom-bom-bom-bom FREEDOM’ all by himself in a crowd of a hundred thousand.
You should call the cops if you’ve been struck by a drummer, once you don’t self-identify as a drum or percussion instrument, of course.
you do like to tinkle, don’t you k.cavan?. i’d say you’d be handy on the glockenspiel.
If you’re worried about a Tory government taking away your freedoms, associating those issues so completely with the pandemic is at best a misdiagnosis. As with our own water protests, rallying around the wrong thing, however worthy of criticism, isn’t a viable long term political strategy. When the pandemic is over and the Tories still in power, will you notice that they’re atill chipping away at your freedoms and your public institutions? The same applies to other governments, of course, very much including our own.
Who would you suggest the people of the UK vote for instead of the conservatives?
Coz Labour is looking a bit like Tory Lite lately.
They don’t have much option over there anymore.
I don’t know. It depends where you are. We don’t have good options here either. The people in charge during the boom and crash AND the people who implemented the water charges are now jointly in charge of the country during a pandemic and a housing crisis. But this is about activism as much as it is about voting, since thats one of the primary ways of moving the people who have been voted in. When a good thing (pandemic response, water charges) is done badly, protesting the good thing rather than kicking out or demanding better of the people who did it badly is counterproductive, if not downright catastrophic.
It is good to turf out a government on a regular basis. They go stale or they get even more corrupt. Term limits are a good way of avoiding this. I can see why the Scots would prefer to leave than stay under permanent Tory government. It wasn’t always this way.
You know you’re doing well when the nuns are backing you up…
Ah well now that a random nun at a protest against lockdowns has said not to take the vaccine … I’ll definitely be taking the vaccine.
I always get my medical information from random members of religious orders on the street.
Probably explains why I have these wounds in my hand that will not heal up, awful trying to eat skittles as well.
I was assured they would miraculously heal but 3 weeks later I’ve gone a bit bluish, have the shakes and am passing quite a lot of blood tinged water.
But hey, I was assured I would be grand, what gives?
Hail to the Lord. How shall we eat skittles oh Lord?
Your post is very funny.
Not as funny as blood and sepsis flavoured orange Skittles. Metallic with undertones of gangrene, anguish and martyrdom.
Still, apparently this has me on the fast track to Heavenly bliss. Just need my covid passport as Heaven is also on lockdown – no real reason, God thought that if the Irish could survive the longest and worst run lockdown on the planet then a load of Saintly Heaveners could too….he likes the auld social experiment does God but someone should have a word about the whole pork thing, those lads in the Middle East would be grand if they got some bacon and cabbage or a BLT from time to time, he brought it in as an experiment around diet and nutrition before his son went down to do his internship and totally forgot to rescind it.
To be fair he did tell the Jewish people that a few gargles is grand but Muhammad never got the email himself so they still think its a thing.
:(
I think you have Indian Variant Covid-mania, Ian-oG, as well as passing blood-tinged water, you’re talking brown-stained gibberish. See a vet or a nun at the earliest opportunity.
I have rainbow covid actually.
So there.
Stop trying to stigmatise ian-oG
Nun already gave me stigmata as well.
Trying to do a magic trick whereby I had to slam down my palms onto a coffee cup but she wasn’t very good and I ended up with two big holes in my palms.
She told me I was blessed. Don’t feel blessed.
I really wish these flat eathers would walk over to the edge and walk over to the other side.
You want the “flat earthers” to walk to one side, then the other? That doesn’t even make any sense, what ARE you gibbering about, you need help, dav.
And we wish you cheerleaders for Klaus Schwab and the billionaire class were only sending yourselves to a dystopian future. Thanks for screwing everybody with your ignorance and blind obedience.
I think the 1% were doing fine before the pandemic. They didn’t need to rock the boat.
Wait until they hear about the bottle that only has……………
One Side!
Like seriously, just the one but its a bottle…..its called a Klein bottle and its MAD. And only has one side.
Mad Ted, mad.
That nun’s superior and local bishop should have a word.
After pimping the GPO protest you must be embarrassed by the tiny turnout.
Yeah. No one cares about them Daisy.
The real protest was all the people outside having a laugh and living their lives the weekend. (and going absolutely mental for the first time in over a year.)
Glorious – was great craic!
Desperate to hijack normal people doing normal things to distract from the non existant turn out. Couldn’t your fellow ratlickers have come along to drink outside the GPO? Bitta multitasking, having a jar and a protest? Is it disappointing that since the vaccine rollout, support has dropped off a cliff?
Lol people are going back out and seeing people in groups and having parties because of the vaccine and their confidence in its protecting people most at risk not despite it! Hah that’s real mental contortion.
Lovely. We agree that the vulnerable are vaccinated and are safe. Brilliant stuff.
Now can we agree that it’s not a good idea to vaccinate the young and statistically there is no need?
Except that it reduces their chances of catching it and spreading it.
Yeah.
You’ve young kids right? Let’s take it out of the covid realm for a sec.
Would you give your young kids ANY medicine that:
a) Only had 6 months of testing
b) Is know to kill some people
c) Is for a disease that doesn’t effect them and is only to help others.
?
12+ year olds are eligible where I live and they’re being vaccinated. Your non-vaccination fantasy is expiring as the days go by. But keep on keeping on :)
That’s great Oro and their parents are either bloody morons or their kids have underlying conditions.
But, I’m asking Nigel.
And to yourself, if you have any kids.
Would you give YOUR kids the covid jab or any medicine that only had 6 months testing prior to release?
It is great. I’d say the morons are the ones refusing vaccines but that’s just an opinion like yours. And it’s not just 12year olds with underlying conditions it’s general population. As I said, your fantasy of general population refusing the vaccine is disappearing so you can bleat away all you like but it’s looking like immunity will be achieved via vaccinations – great.
Sure Micko. The issue of six month testing has been explained to you so many times now that you’ve no excuse for repeating it other than sheer dishonesty.
“ six month testing has been explained”
Eh no it hasn’t. But sure, go ion, explain it to me once again there sure.
Like I’m a kid.
How did researchers compress time and are able to determine the long term side effects for a drug that only had 6 months testing.
The nun has given up her freedom to follow a cult. She believes some bloke who died 2K years ago is some kind of saviour. I think I will ignore her advice.
So, the correct way to protest governments dismantling democracy is NOT to protest? Wow, I never thought of that. I doubt if anyone did. Have you been on the skunk, Nigel?
Again, you’re inventing things I did not say. If anything I don’t think we protest enough. That does not mean I can’t or won’t strongly disagree with the substantive messages of particular protests. It’s like you seem to think that in order to support the right to protest you must agree with both a pro-Palestine protest AND a pro-Israel protest. It’s a ridiculous position.
Methinks thou dost protest too much, Nigel. The fact is, you would be objecting to both the Pro & Anti-Palestinian protests on the basis that they’re Far Right, influenced or controlled by some Far Right conspiracy, to the Right (or Left) of the Far Right, existing on the same planet as the Far Right or something to do with some Far Right website nobody but the Far Right (& you) have heard about. You have Far Right on the brain, Nigel, because you’ve been out there for far too long.
Of course I would. Or rather, the me in your head would. I bet you win all the arguments against the me in your head.
I wonder what UnHoly order the nun represents? She should listen to the sage advice of her earthly CEO
Pope Francis:
“I believe that ethically everyone should take the vaccine,” the Pope said in an interview with TV station Canale 5. “It is an ethical choice because you are gambling with your health, with your life, but you are also gambling with the lives of others.”
Interesting that nobody has any opinion of what the nun actually said? That they are being asked to pray for way more vaccine deaths than any other previous? Now I hardly think a nun of such duty would be lying eh?
+ 1 She says her order prayed for 50 people (‘vaccine deaths’) – some from Ireland- since the beginning of January and that she had previously only been asked to pray for one in her 28 years as a nun.
She’s a sister in the order of the Holy Anecdote.
Ahahahahaha seriously now you pair.
Because a nun would never tell a lie. A pillar of the community, indeed.
Oh come on Millie- post vax deaths are way above anything else before- or is it going to another bloody year before you accept that too?
Sorry, but am I wrong? You’re holding up a nun as a paragon of truth because it suits your purposes. We all know they can lie as well as the rest of us.
As for your vax/covid spiel, you can try that on someone else because I’m not interested, thanks.
Yes you are wrong- now just because you cannot be bothering your lazy bottom with such “details” only means you have a lazy ass- not that it isn’t happening.
https://healthfreedomireland.com/nursing-home-deaths-2021/
Knowingly injecting people too sick or frail to survive is murder- end of.
+1 Millie. Utterly agree. Sometimes, the “experts” on here would drive one potty. And I thought the Brexiters were the cherry pickers par excellence.
I am sorry SOQ but Health Freedom Ireland is your source of evidence?! In one word – NO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r02j7HaKYe8
I won’t engage with your comments on this topic. You have your opinion, and I have mine and I’d much I’d prefer to keep it civil, thanks.
Have a nice evening.
And a lovely evening it is Millie (and SOQ)!
Weirdly- my cat is called Precious too.
Miaow. So much for civil, huh?
Look, you have your opinion and I respect that, even if I disagree with it. I no longer have the time or inclination to get into exhaustive debates here. I’d appreciate if you can respect that and find someone else to sharpen your claws on. There’s plenty here who’d relish it, I’ve no doubt.
That link is spouting some amount of rubbish, which isn’t surprising considering you believe it as gospel truth! It’s taken numbers from RIP.ie and then said that RIP.ie is not an official source. Also, they’re the bunch of bigots who march with religious nutjob and racist Niall McConnell.
+1 Millie.