last night.

RTÉ Prime Time.

This herd is small, but that one is far away.

*chews cud*

(How close is Ireland to herd immunity? (Mark Coughlan, RTE)

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24 thoughts on “Moo

  1. scottser

    Nobody is ‘immune’. If you’ve had covid or had the jab you can still get infected and transmit it.

    1. Micko

      Exactly, so the vaccine is just to protect oneself.

      Which is fine… and is an even better reason to let people choose to get it or not. If they don’t, they are only putting themselves at risk.

          1. Micko

            A skilful avoidance of that question there Nigel.

            You win 7 bullet dodging points from Morpheus.

          2. Nigel

            Yes, dodge the zombie bites, Micko, don’t let them bite you as a demonstration of fierce individuality.

    2. Zaccone

      There has been one medically proven case of second infection to date in Ireland to date. And it was last week. One, out of 255,000+ : https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/health-worker-caught-covid-twice-in-first-scientist-confirmed-irish-reinfection-case-1.4581474

      The HSE themselves are now saying immunity after infection lasts _at least_ 9 months. And that figure is going up all the time. The expectation is it could be anything up to 5 years.

      So if someone has already had corona they are effectively immune actually.

      1. Clampers Outside

        … Hmmmm…

        I can see the questions in the Leaving Cert Math…

        If immunity lasts 9 months and it takes 9 months to vaccinate everyone…. Can we ever reach herd immunity? :)

    3. Cian

      Nobody is ‘immune’. If you’ve had measles or had the measles jab you can still get infected with measles and transmit it.

      Welcome to the wonderful world of vaccination. None of them work 100%. Why would you expect a Covid vaccine to be any different?

      Can I get the measles if I’ve already been vaccinated?

      It’s possible, but very unlikely. The combination measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine is a two-dose vaccine series that effectively protects against all three viruses.

      In fact, more than 93 percent of people who get the first dose of MMR develop immunity to measles. After the second dose, about 97 percent of people are protected.
      https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/expert-answers/getting-measles-after-vaccination/faq-20125397

  2. freewheeling

    Jon Snow, he ain’t (or an epidemiologist) .. “working out da mats”

    RTE is an embarrassment

  3. SOQ

    Meanwhile the UK Office for National Statistics is estimating that around 80% are antibody positive. And before the usual suspects rush to claim vaccine success, that is around 50% in most age groups not yet vaccinated.

    This is of course only antibodies not T Cells- which is guaranteed to make it a much higher figure, as a lot of infections would be well over 6 to 9 months old.

    https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1402544313209339913

    1. Nigel

      ‘This is likely to be a result of the increase in these people receiving a second dose of the vaccine’

      1. SOQ

        That 80% is very top heavy- they are only now doing first dose of twenty somethings? Actually come to think of it- 80% of what?

        As of 26th May, 50% of 20 to 30 year olds have antibodies and roughly 40% of late teens- given the roll out schedule and time between shots, that could not possibly be from vaccines.

  4. rominick

    Take the vaccine for a flu or we’ll keep locking you down.
    Also we’re after your kids.

  5. Point

    The comment section of broadsheet is not fun.

    It was nearly fun before covid.

    It’s not fun now.

    Broadsheet can post that as a featured “poem” if they want………………

    1. Hank

      You just have to know which posts to avoid. Wading through the same arguments on Covid posts day after day can get you down.

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