“How far away from herd immunity are we? And what would it take to get there?”@Mark_Coughlan estimates Ireland has reached 40% population immunity now – and asks if the vaccine roll-out will bring us to herd immunity | #rtept | Read more: https://t.co/2iw7OyGY8a pic.twitter.com/TStv4N8Vg4
— RTÉ Prime Time (@RTE_PrimeTime) June 8, 2021
last night.
RTÉ Prime Time.
This herd is small, but that one is far away.
(How close is Ireland to herd immunity? (Mark Coughlan, RTE)
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Nobody is ‘immune’. If you’ve had covid or had the jab you can still get infected and transmit it.
Exactly, so the vaccine is just to protect oneself.
Which is fine… and is an even better reason to let people choose to get it or not. If they don’t, they are only putting themselves at risk.
Like it or not, this is a public health issue, not a private health issue.
So mandatory vaccines Nigel?
Sort of like ‘mandatory not getting bitten by a zombie.’
A skilful avoidance of that question there Nigel.
You win 7 bullet dodging points from Morpheus.
Yes, dodge the zombie bites, Micko, don’t let them bite you as a demonstration of fierce individuality.
There has been one medically proven case of second infection to date in Ireland to date. And it was last week. One, out of 255,000+ : https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/health-worker-caught-covid-twice-in-first-scientist-confirmed-irish-reinfection-case-1.4581474
The HSE themselves are now saying immunity after infection lasts _at least_ 9 months. And that figure is going up all the time. The expectation is it could be anything up to 5 years.
So if someone has already had corona they are effectively immune actually.
… Hmmmm…
I can see the questions in the Leaving Cert Math…
If immunity lasts 9 months and it takes 9 months to vaccinate everyone…. Can we ever reach herd immunity? :)
:)
haha
if a vaccine falls/jabs in a forest does it make a sound
Nobody is ‘immune’. If you’ve had measles or had the measles jab you can still get infected with measles and transmit it.
Welcome to the wonderful world of vaccination. None of them work 100%. Why would you expect a Covid vaccine to be any different?
Can I get the measles if I’ve already been vaccinated?
It’s possible, but very unlikely. The combination measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine is a two-dose vaccine series that effectively protects against all three viruses.
In fact, more than 93 percent of people who get the first dose of MMR develop immunity to measles. After the second dose, about 97 percent of people are protected.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/expert-answers/getting-measles-after-vaccination/faq-20125397
Jon Snow, he ain’t (or an epidemiologist) .. “working out da mats”
RTE is an embarrassment
he knows nothing.
It’s like a pish poor magic show, lots of hands moving about to distract you.
Meanwhile the UK Office for National Statistics is estimating that around 80% are antibody positive. And before the usual suspects rush to claim vaccine success, that is around 50% in most age groups not yet vaccinated.
This is of course only antibodies not T Cells- which is guaranteed to make it a much higher figure, as a lot of infections would be well over 6 to 9 months old.
https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1402544313209339913
‘This is likely to be a result of the increase in these people receiving a second dose of the vaccine’
The UK have vaccinated 79% of the adult population (49% fully, another 30% one does).
An “estimated” 80% have antibodies…
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights
That 80% is very top heavy- they are only now doing first dose of twenty somethings? Actually come to think of it- 80% of what?
As of 26th May, 50% of 20 to 30 year olds have antibodies and roughly 40% of late teens- given the roll out schedule and time between shots, that could not possibly be from vaccines.
22.8% of 16-24 year-olds have had one vaccine
40.0% of 25-34 year-olds have had one vaccine
so, yeah, it is the vaccination pushing the % upwards.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights#vaccinations
Take the vaccine for a flu or we’ll keep locking you down.
Also we’re after your kids.
The comment section of broadsheet is not fun.
It was nearly fun before covid.
It’s not fun now.
Broadsheet can post that as a featured “poem” if they want………………
You just have to know which posts to avoid. Wading through the same arguments on Covid posts day after day can get you down.