Not For The Moment

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This afternoon.

Meanwhile…

Taoiseach Micheál Martin last week.

He’s so ‘ahead’.

Covis 19 Vaccine Advice (WHO)

Last week: In The Fall

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11 thoughts on “Not For The Moment

  1. Bruncvik

    Regardless whether I’d agree or disagree with vaccinating children (I haven’t formed an opinion about this yet), let’s be consistent here. WHO claimed COVID would not spread from human to human. Then it advised against travel restrictions. Then it said masks were unnecessary. Based on their track record with this pandemic, I would fully understand if people did the exact opposite of what the WHO recommended.

  2. Zaccone

    Its pretty morally horrifying to be vaccinating under 18s in Europe/the US, who are at effectively zero risk from the virus, while over 80s in plenty of countries around the world who are actually high risk haven’t been vaccinated.

    1. Junkface

      +1
      Wealthy countries need to send vaccines to poor countries for their elderly populations. Especially highly populated countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia. This is the forefront of where the virus mutates into something more dangerous. Children are not at risk from covid 19.

  3. Micko

    Ahem…

    Covid vaccine given to children eh? Not recommended eh?

    I said that this was a bad idea a couple of weeks ago and the Oro’s of this site tried to tear me a new one.

    Things like “where did you get your science degree from Micko?” etc

    Now the WHO is saying the same.

    WHO IS THE MAN OF SCIENCE NOW SILLIES!!! muhahahahahaha!

    Can you all form an orderly queue to gimme an apology.

    Heh heh…

    1. Steph Pinker

      Now, now Micko – don’t gloat! As one of the more witty commenters observed a while ago, we could have an Irish variant of our own called Termonfeckin’ Covid (sorry Paulus for misquoting). Could you imagine an outbreak of Termonfeckin’ around the world? Although I’d imagine they’re well used to face coverings up there so it mightn’t spread at all.

      1. Micko

        Hehehe

        I think the TwoMileBoris variant would be a good one.

        Wait.. wait. It’s the Epsilon variant next ;)

  4. eoin

    Is this Lancet article saying the vaccines basically do nothing?

    ‘Vaccine efficacy is generally reported as a relative risk reduction (RRR). It uses the relative risk (RR)—ie, the ratio of attack rates with and without a vaccine—which is expressed as 1–RR. Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines. However, RRR should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID-19, which varies between populations and over time. Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.’

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext

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