54 thoughts on “Thursday’s Papers

    1. scottser

      Not as bad an idea as statutory rape on a trafficked child. I wonder how long it’ll take MI5 to assassinate her?

      1. Lilly

        Prince Andrew is an unsavoury, entitled sap, but I don’t believe he should be held responsible for Epstein’s crimes. I seriously doubt he knew Virginia Giuffre had been trafficked and the age of consent in Britain is 16.

        1. E'Matty

          Eh, Prince Andrew still stayed at Epsteins AFTER he had been convicted of child prostitution (a sweetheart charge for Epstein for child rape. A child cannot consent and so cannot be a prostitute). Andrew’s uncle Lord Mountbatten or ,”Mountbottom” as friends called him, was a notorious rapist of young boys. He introduced Britain’s worst (known) child rapist, Jimmy Saville, into the Royal circle where remained until his death.

        2. george

          So a middle aged man and woman are just hanging out with a 17 year old in a night club and bringing her back to a flat and he didn’t think anything was wrong with that?

          1. Lilly

            My guess is he’s not very bright and so in thrall to his royal status that he thought it perfectly natural that a 17-year-old would delight in his attentions.

        3. Junkface

          And we still don’t know how exactly Epstein made his billions. The netflix doc suggested that all of his properties were covered in pin hole cameras. So they reckon he blackmailed every single politician or millionaire who visited his places. Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and some powerful lawyers were his most regular visitors and when Melinda Gates found out (in 2019) that Bill went there a few times after 2011 (Epstein’s first arrest & charge), she immediately divorced him. I wonder will they ever access the footage files from those cameras?

    2. Cú Chulainn

      If Assange were to be extricated, does the panel think the charges against the royal one would be dropped..?

    3. goldenbrown

      maybe if they tried something clever
      like changing their name again
      everyone would just forget and move on

    4. Kinsale Kid

      It makes you wonder how a 17-year-old girl can force herself to travel between New York,London and the Caribbean staying in luxury accomodation and having sex with a prince for many months and being photographed with him happy and smiling without mentioning a word to anyone until many years later when there’s a chance of some big bucks.Tough life.

      1. E'Matty

        I don’t think you understand consent and statutory rape laws but way to jump to the defense of a sexual predator.

      2. Papi

        Charger, space full stop, new sentence.

        Doesn’t take you long, does it?

  1. Darren

    Selling papers with a smile to a generation who still think wetting the bed is the child’s fault..

  2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

    A friend of mine wrote to me yesterday she was upset,
    I translated it here

    “I don’t have a health pass. So to have the right to do things with my child (going to the museum, to the village library, to drink apple juice in the cafe where we often go, etc.) I went for a PCR test, for 3 days of life normal. At the huge pharmacy where the tests are done, I come back (masked) and did my shopping. You can pay (I pay) and ask for a test, which I do, at the counter in the middle of the store. The pharmacist asks me to come out (“we’ll call you”) after signing me up. Since it’s 37 degrees and I still have stuff on my list, I say “no I’ll be inside, you’ll find me right here, thank you!” And I’m only doing this test to go to exhibitions. ” Indignant, she insists and wants me to go out: “you could be asymptomatic!” . Hoping it’s a joke, I pointed out to him that when it came to filling my shopping cart, no one cared about my condition. After paying, I was therefore pushed outside and stood in line with lots of other people as stupid and as shady as me (the asymptomatic are among us!). Consume, friends, consume; but do not cultivate yourself too much, do not even go looking for books with your child … you are suspicious!

        1. andrew

          Advised by Facebook and YouTube video?

          OK then – to paraphrase george; “I choose to be a schmuck and there are consequences”

          1. Micko

            Don’t mind them Janet

            There’s something wrong with these people.

            Hope things change for your pal.

          2. Rosette of Sirius

            Don’t get me wrong J, I’m not trying to bait an argument or anything like that. I’m just looking to understand what might prevent a young woman from receiving a vaccine.

          3. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            oh I understand, I don’t mean to be abrupt, I believe she has abnormal heart rythmns already, I know she was advised to stop long distance running too.

    1. Micko

      Yikes, it looks busy in those markets in Iran.

      Almost as busy as a crowd at an Olympians triumphant return to her hometown eh?

      Keep spreading fear ce!

      1. ce

        Yep, as most epidemiologist have said (ie. not the ones info_warless and co posts about) vaccination is not a silver bullet but it will help prevent serious illness for many… and certain folks won’t wear mask in crowded places pre or post vaccination… so, yeah, we are far from out of the woods… still, have a lovely day!

  3. ce


    So all great news on the climate front… Individual efforts help but until large system changes happen we’re in significant trouble… However, in the spirit of “keep buggering on” can we have some climate saving suggestions from y’all –

    Hang out your washing – All tenants should have the right to hang out their washing too!)

    Don’t ever cut the grass – People with mowed lawns should pay a kind of “Sisyphus Tax” for their pointless vanity/control issues and killing the planet more than other people…

    Bring back white wash on all buildings and roofs white …

    1. Junkface

      All new apartment buildings should have Solar panels installed on the roof for heating water and storing energy for internal operations. This should be law. They are thinking about it in Germany, but what’s to think about? Do it! We need to act quicker. Maybe the floods in the south will make them act more urgently. We should also have lots of solar panels on roofs of shopping malls.

        1. Junkface

          I know. It seems we rely on action from the slowest group of people, politicians. They move fast when they are bribed by lobbyists though. It’s infuriating.

          1. Micko

            There’s houses that were built around the corner from me that have solar panels in the roof. The hot water kind. They all have them, so I think it was part of a scheme or something.

            They were built in the late 90’s/ early 2000’s . I remember them being built and saying at the time “ that’s the future, every new house will have those. Free energy”

            Over 20 years later. Nothing…

          2. Micko

            It totally makes sense at a construction level.

            If you’re buying a gaff for 400k, what’s an extra 5k in solar tech.

            That 5k to retro fit solar once you’ve moved in is deffo a big deal then.

      1. Daniel

        The current and previous version of the Part L documents of the building regulations for both domestic and non-domestic properties setouts out minimum renewable energy requirements.
        There are many ways to achieve these requirement some more visible than other and some more effective than others.
        An example of this is “cheaper” developers opting for gas boilers and photovoltaic panels (electrical) for Part L 2011 domestic compliance. the panels are very visible but in reality dont benefit the homeowner very much as any power produced has to be consumed directly as there is no storage there is also no back feeding the grid. the alternative was slightly more expensive solar thermal panels (hot water) which did have real benefits for the homeowners particularly during the summer months.

        The latest regulation favors the use of electrically power heat pumps which wont be as visible as panels but will be more beneficial for the homeowner and have the benefit of getting greener over time as the national grid de-carbonizes with no actions required at the dwelling.

        hope this helps give an insight into this topic

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