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    1. Chris

      A FOI revealed they’re running the PCR tests at 40-45 cycles. Deliberatly running up the numbers in a fraudulent manner to instigate draconian, unscientific lockdowns.

      1. Kim The Cardassian

        Its pretty obvious that hospitalisations and ICU numbers are driving the decision making on restrictions given we were in lockdown for less pre vaccination roll out.

        I know its Monday Chris but do keep up :P

        1. Chris

          Those same tests are being administered in hospitals, so patients that were admitted ‘negative’ suddenly become ‘positive’ to add to the farce. Keep up? I doubt you could catch up at this point ;)

          1. Micko

            Definitely a factor.

            23 billion spent and we couldn’t even set up some stand alone temp hospitals for Covid patients. As Michael McNamara pointed out a few weeks ago in the dail – we did it for TB and Cholera.

            Covid? Nah – stick em all together. Be grand.

          2. Kim Cardassian

            Well Chris. You know loads about pcr cycles. Do tell us why CT values of 45-50 are problematic. And while you’re at it explain to us what factors in a PCR test determine whether the sample has enough copies of the virus present to deem the person the sample is was taken from is covid positive.

            I bet you can’t. I’ll buy you a romulan ale if you can, without googling it of course.

            If you don’t want to that’s fine too. No one wants to explain it on a Monday. But no romulan ale for you

            Incidentally, all this info is in the public domain. The HSE was published a number of documents on the CT cycle red herring.

          3. K. Cavan

            No, Kim, it’s far more scientific than that. PCR tests have “no clinical function”, though that’s only a quote from the guy who invented it, what would he know, eh?

          4. Kim Cardassian

            Lol. People still think a pcr test is just a covid thing.

            If it doesn’t have a clinical use though, was it “invented” for pumping up car tires or something?

          5. E'Matty

            @Kim , The World Health Organization released a guidance memo on December 14th 2020, warning that high cycle thresholds on PCR tests will result in false positives.

            “Users of RT-PCR reagents should read the IFU carefully to determine if manual adjustment of the PCR positivity threshold is necessary to account for any background noise which may lead to a specimen with a high cycle threshold (Ct) value result being interpreted as a positive result.

            The design principle of RT-PCR means that for patients with high levels of circulating virus (viral load), relatively few cycles will be needed to detect virus and so the Ct value will be low. Conversely, when specimens return a high Ct value, it means that many cycles were required to detect virus. In some circumstances, the distinction between background noise and actual presence of the target virus is difficult to ascertain”

            Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize for inventing the PCR process commenting on cycle thresholds, once said:

            “If you have to go more than 40 cycles to amplify a single-copy gene, there is something seriously wrong with your PCR.”

            The MIQE guidelines for PCR use state:

            “Cq values higher than 40 are suspect because of the implied low efficiency and generally should not be reported,”

            New York Times 17 September 2020 – “In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found”

            “Most tests set the limit at 40, a few at 37. This means that you are positive for the coronavirus if the test process required up to 40 cycles, or 37, to detect the virus. Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left” according to Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

            “Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive”, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said.

            “A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35”, she added.
            Officials at the Wadsworth Center, New York’s state lab, have access to C.T. values from tests they have processed, and analyzed their numbers at The Times’s request. In July, the lab identified 872 positive tests, based on a threshold of 40 cycles.

            With a cutoff of 35, about 43 percent of those tests would no longer qualify as positive. About 63 percent would no longer be judged positive if the cycles were limited to 30.

        2. K. Cavan

          No, Kim, it’s far more scientific than that. Bill Gates just tells one of his minions to tell some minions to tell some minions (etc) to keep the little people locked down until he can get the Climate Change bullpoo spread all over the front pages, a suitable use for today’s newspapers, you’d have to agree.

      2. SOQ

        And he was out for dinner in Leitrim too? I suppose it could be argued that technically he wasn’t breaking any rules but there is surely an expectation that he would lead by example?

  1. Zaccone

    Rules and restrictions aren’t meant to apply to the people making them, silly. Golfgate, Merriongate, etc. They’re only for the plebs.

  2. U N M U T U A L

    @bodger

    Meanwhile in Wales… Murder on the dance floor.

    Mark Drakeford is a Welsh Labour Party politician serving as First Minister of Wales.

    https://nation.cymru/news/watch-first-minister-shakes-a-leg-at-diwali-celebration/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Bela_arora/status/1459809556733865991?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1459809556733865991%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnation.cymru%2Fnews%2Fwatch-first-minister-shakes-a-leg-at-diwali-celebration%2F

  3. wearnicehats

    Paul Reid allowed 100,000 people to engage in a risky activity in Lansdowne Road last week. He was probably at those too. Still, close the pubs.

    1. Fergalito

      What an incredible match – stunning performance by Ireland. Good for the sanity, good for the soul and people sometimes question the value of sport? Coupled with Stephen Kenny’s charges defeating Luxembourg 3-0 last night it has been a great weekend of sport for the green, white and gold ! Nice new away strip for the soccer team too….

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