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  1. Sean

    Pretty easy to understand.

    40% of deaths come from the 10% that are unvaccinated. Similarly, the unvaxxed take up a much higher proportion of hospital and ICU beds.

    Get vaccinated.

          1. SOQ

            And just another point on that % vaccinated figure- the younger the population the less people vaccinated, especially if there is a higher than usual ratio of minors, which Israel has apparently.

          3. Cian

            you can see this on this chart.

            By April 2021 Israel’s vaccine doses plateaued (at ~110% or 55% of population)
            It rose slowly to just under 120% (60% of pop) in end July 2021. They introduced boosters in August, which saw it jump to 172%

            https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=total_deaths_per_million&Metric=Vaccine+doses&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=~ISR

        2. Pat

          Blasphemer!

          Bill Gates will message me by 5G when the time is right .

          In the meantime, my arm is still partially magnetised, allowing me to enjoy super secret vaxx rights!

      2. Sean

        Bodger: No.

        Unless you believe there is a massive cover-up by every government, every medical establishment and every media outlet in every country in the world. In which case, off you go, just try not to fall off the edge of the flat earth.

        All medicines have side effects, even that box of paracetamol in your cupboard has a list of side effects. But they’re so rare, the risk is FAR outweighed by the reward that vaccines and medicines have always provided.

        https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/pfizer-biontech/side-effects/

        1. Bodger

          ‘you believe there is a massive cover-up by every government, every medical establishment and every media outlet in every country in the world’

          Pretty much.

          1. Sean

            OK. I can only assume your joking, but honestly given some of the stuff you posted and retweeted recently, I’m not so sure.

            I mean, it’s obviously ridiculous. Just like the fake moon landings, or 9-11 conspiracies, it would require literally thousands of people to cover it all up, and then not bother to leak anything to anyone ever.

            If that’s what you believe, then honestly, you need help.

          4. Sean

            “Very few would be in the know”.

            So it’s a global conspiracy, whereby they manufactured a virus in a lab, then created a working effective vaccine to fix the virus. But very few are in the know, like a secret global government, except they’re lizards?

            Here’s something that I can 100% guarantee will be true in a few years time: you will look back and go, “what was I thinking?”

          6. JD

            Bodger aren’t you ‘on the committee’ so to speak of this very left wing news site / app? I’m kind of shocked you’re coming out of the closet as a conspiracy theorist.

          7. Cian

            @Sean

            Sorry to break this to you, but Bodger doesn’t believe in the moon landings in 1969 and thinks 9/11 was an inside job. You are wasting your time.

            He is good at weather though: “there is a storm coming…”

          9. benblack

            All joking aside, this is where it will probably end up.

            Those who are not vaccinated pose a danger to themselves and others and lack the required ‘insight’ to recognise this ‘fact’, thereby, leaving the powers that be no other alternative than to detain these individuals under the Mental Health Act 2001 – a real odyssey!

          10. SOQ

            Given that vaccinated can be just as infectious and the average age of death from CoVid-19 is 82- how exactly are those who are not vaccinated posing a danger to themselves and others?

          11. benblack

            You may have missed the point of my post, SOQ?

            I intentionally apostrophised the word ‘facts’ and the potential misuse of these ‘facts’ by the powers that be.

          14. Sailor Gerry

            Yup, massive cover-up, this winter it will become hard to hide, as clearly the clot-shots do not protect anything, apart from big Pharma’s bottom line; the vax injured will die and shift all cause mortality upwards. Add that to lack of treating or screening all the other regular diseases that want to take us from this mortal coil and it will be grim.
            I predict a dark winter, I do not fear it, but I would rather it did not materialise.

      3. george

        The unvaccinated minority are doing worse per capita.
        The unvaccinated account for 40% of all deaths despite being just 10% of the adult population.
        The unvaccinated 10% are also significantly younger on average than the other 90% so the deaths should be significantly lowered than 10% especially if the vaccine was making the vaccinated sick.
        The lack of a vaccine is making the unvaccinated sick which is causing their avoidable deaths.

        1. Cui Bono?

          Look at the first sentence under “Key Points” and realise how this has misled you.

          It is reporting from April 1st – only 5% were vaccinated on April 1st, 18% by the end of May, 37% by the end of June etc. Can you see how it misled you? 100% of covid deaths were unvaccinated last year.

          To give a proper up to date report they should be showing us the numbers today or at least from last week.

          1. rob

            Very good point. I have been asking the HSE for weekly reports with date admitted, vaccinated status, age and underlying conditions. We need good honest data to make an informed decision.

        2. Micko

          “ The unvaccinated 10% are also significantly younger on average”

          Except the fact that 99% of deaths are in the over 45’s George.

          And 91% of deaths in Ireland are aged 65+ – so vax’d or unvax’d doesn’t really matter.

          It’s a disease of the old George. Always has been.

          Data is here.

          https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/weeklyreportoncovid-19deathsreportedinireland/COVID-19_Weekly_Death_Report_Website_v1.5%2011112021.pdf

        3. John Smith

          ‘The lack of a vaccine is making the unvaccinated sick which is causing their avoidable deaths.’

          I don’t think even you believe that NOT having a vaccine makes people sick, George! What is making people sick, in the situation you are referring to, is the virus. If they hadn’t been infected, they wouldn’t have become sick with Covid-19.

          Nor do you know that they wouldn’t have died if they had had the vaccine so you don’t know that their deaths were avoidable – though, yes, they (or some of them) may have survived because the vaccine reduces the severity of the symptoms. If they had not been vaccinated for medical reasons they were quite likely to have been more vulnerable. (Are figures available that distinguish between non-vaccination on health grounds and by choice in relation to deaths from Covid?)

          With people who had been vaccinated, they were also made sick by the virus. However, they can also be made sick by the vaccine itself, as is shown by the list of post-vaccine injuries.

    3. Mr.T

      40% of deaths from april – at a time when we had very low vaccination coverage.

      What are deaths like for the last month or two, thats a far better indicator.

    4. Cui Bono?

      But Sean, you’ve missed the most important point. It’s reporting from April 1st when only 5% were vaccinated. 18% by the end of May, 37% by the end of June etc.

      By including these months it is misleading.

      I guarantee you that if they reported from October 1st you would see that the vast majority of covid deaths are from the fully vaccinated. Close to 100% I would guess.

      1. Cian

        I guarantee you that if they reported from October 1st you would see that the majority of covid deaths are from the unvaccinated. Close to 60% I would guess.

          2. John Smith

            It is not 100% in the over-70s!

            However, I agree with your contention, Micko. The majority of deaths are in the elderly and that is where the vaccination percentage is very high.

        3. E'Matty

          Cian, vaccinated and unvaccinated HSPC recent death figures 11 Sept – 9 October. Not sure anything later released. Almost 80% of deaths were fully vaccinated. Less than 17% unvaccinated. Only achieved over 90% vaccine coverage for adults towards the end of this period too.

          -118 Deaths with lab confirmed Covid infection

          -20/118 (16.9%) were unvaccinated.

          -98/118 (83.1%) had at least one dose.

          -94/118 (79.7%) were fully vaccinated

    5. E'Matty

      No Sean, it does not. You’re making the same convenient schoolboy error with these figures to suit your narrative, just like the HSE is doing. Those figures go back to April 2021 Sean, when less than 250k were vaccinated. By July, approx 55% of adults had been vaccinated (the majority of the total population remained unvaccinated). So, when you try conflate the 10% figure, which was only achieved in October 2021, with the 40% of deaths which were recorded before that time period, you are completely misrepresenting the true impact of deaths in the vaccinated. Two figures from different time periods when the test group moved from almost fully unvaccinated to fully vaccinated during the duration of that period is a ridiculously poor attempt at rigging the figures.

  2. SOQ

    That Helen Carter account must be a parody surely?

    On Police checking in shops in Austria she tweets “The boys in blue doing what they do best!! Removing the filthy unvaccinated from the good and clean vaccinated people!!”

    Another is “You’d think they’d get it by now. more people are vaccinated than are unvaccinated, which means they made the wrong choice and need to conform. their time to be an individual is up. this is how democracy works #DeportTheUnvaccinated”

    1. Cian

      @Sean
      unvaccinated people (but with a previous Covid infection) were 5.49 times more likely to get infected and hospitalised compared to those who had the vaccine.

      1. E'Matty

        Wrong again Cian. https://www.timesofisrael.com/study-covid-recovery-gave-israelis-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/

        “Natural immunity from contracting coronavirus provided Israelis with longer-lasting protection against the Delta variant than two shots of the Pfizer vaccine given early this year, new Israeli research suggests.

        People who had two vaccine shots had a six-fold higher chance of getting infected with Delta than patients who hadn’t been vaccinated but previously contracted the coronavirus, according to the research.”

        So, Robinson with his post infection acquired immunity was as much as 6 times more protected against infection than a double jabbed vaccinated person. 

        It is almost the absolute inverse of your claim.

        1. Cian

          I was correcting Sean’s post where he didn’t have the full nuance of his link.

          Your post (of a non peer reviewed paper) doesn’t trump his paper.

          1. Sean

            Oh believe me I do understand. And if you think vaccines are a massive conspiracy, you are completely deluded.

          6. Sean

            “It’s pretty visible now to those with eyes to see.”

            Absolute rubbish. And it’s really not that complicated. You are 10x more likely to die from Covid without a vaccine. This for example is Singapore. Unless of course, they’re also in on the big super secret global conspiracy?

            https://twitter.com/Chelseachemist1/status/1460640115001212928
            https://data.gov.sg/dataset/covid-19-case-numbers?resource_id=783f0c4c-caf7-4818-8683-760f3d7f0757

            “C’mon sheeple, open your eyes.”

          2. Cian

            @Micko

            What % of people in low-income countries are eligible for vaccination?
            The median age (half the population is under) in Africa is 19.7; in Europe it is 42.5.

  4. Cian

    Only issue with this is that back in April only 10% were vaccinated (albeit the most vulnerable). It was only July when they hit half vaccinated.

    These numbers need to be broken down by date & age to be analysed properly.

    1. Cui Bono?

      Exactly Cian, we agree on something WOW it’s a great day.

      This reporting is misleading because most people will not pick on this most important point.

      Only 5% were vaccinated on April 1st, 18% by the end of May, 37% by the end of June etc.

      Last year 100% of deaths were unvaccinated.

      1. Cian

        I’m not saying they are totally wrong. Just there isn’t enough data.

        We can concentrate on the elderly (most at risk of death). According to ECDC

        On Week 13 (April 4) there was 16% of 60+ fully vaccinated in Ireland.
        By Week 27 (July 11th) that had jumped to 97% of 60+ fully vaccinated (and 92% of the 50-59)

        The vast majority of the elderly (60+) were full vaccinated for 17 of the 31 weeks of this. Or, on average, 78% of 60+ were vaccinated across the 31 weeks.

        1. Cui Bono?

          They choose to not show current data from October 1st onwards because it will show the vaccines are nowhere near as good as promised in the media.

          And now that summers over things will start to increase as every flu and coronavirus season.

          1. Cian

            If we reached 100% vaccination we would have a situation where 100% of Covid deaths were in the vaccinated…. doesn’t mean that the vaccines aren’t stopping a load of deaths.

  5. freewheeling

    How about in the last month or two – the only timerange in which they can make that 90% vaccinated claim? 40% of deaths in unvaccinated since APRIL (back when more like 90% of population was UNVACCINATED). More propagandistic stats selection from the HSE.

    1. Sean

      What are you ON about?

      This is from the Irish Times 4 weeks ago:
      “The unvaccinated make up one-third of Covid-19 cases in hospital and two-thirds in ICU, but only 7 per cent of the adult population”

      2. freewheeling

        I am ON about the data range in the report cited in the article, giving percentages of covid DEATHS, by vaccination status. You are then ON about hospitalizations and ICU. Play the ball. We’re done.

          1. Cui Bono?

            It’s from April 4–July 17, 2021

            By using these months where vaccines were not fully rolled out it cannot possibly give an honest picture of vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

          2. Cian

            By using these months where vaccines were not fully rolled out it cannot possibly give an honest picture of vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

            Why not?

            If CDC are looking at vaccinated Vs unvaccinated and they know the date-of-infection and ages of dead then they can compare them knowing what stage the rollout was at.

  6. Jono

    Every week the ratio of vaccinated to unvaccinated slips, parity at the moment.

    I understand 10% / 90% base rate fallacy but surely you can see the vaccine is failing badly.

    It was touted as 100% when launched.

    gov.uk stated vaccinated are not making antibodies at the same level as the unvaccinated, will this get worse with mutations?

          3. Cui Bono?

            No Cian, the most important point which you are deliberately ignoring and I’m trying to highlight is that the ARR is less than 1%.

            The RRR misled the public into thinking the vaccines were 95% effective at stopping covid which is not true.

      3. f_lawless

        Sean, the 2 links you shared above gkive a perfect example of how most of the general public were misled by government and media around the time of roll out of the vaccines The distinction between ‘Relative Risk Reduction’ and ‘Absolute Risk Reduction’ was never made thus greatly exaggerating the observed benefits of the vaccines during their trials.

        This is recent article gives a good explanation of how things unfolded

        https://maryannedemasi.com/publications/f/covid-19-vaccine-benefits-exaggerated-say-experts

        ‘It is well established that only quoting RRR without quoting the ARR, can inflate or exaggerate an intervention’s effect size and clinical importance, as well as increase people’s willingness to receive the treatment.

        It has been referred to as the first “sin” against transparent communication by Gerd Gigerenzer, director of the Harding Centre for Risk Literacy at the Max Planck Institute. He says it can be used as “a deliberate tactic to manipulate or persuade people.”

        “Many physicians, patients, health journalists and politicians do not understand health statistics. This collective statistical illiteracy has resulted in serious consequences for health,” Gigerenzer says.

        John Ioannidis, Professor at Stanford University and the most cited physician scientist, agrees.

        “In my experience, innumeracy is widely prevalent,” says Prof Ioannidis.

        “This is not happening just for vaccines. Over many decades, RRR has been the dominant way of communicating results of clinical trials. Almost always, RRR looks nicer than absolute risk reductions.”..

        ….All the public announcements about the (Covid) vaccines were initiated by the vaccine manufacturers in highly curated press releases, and it significantly shaped the public narrative, setting the stage for high expectations.

        For example, Pfizer published a press release claiming the vaccine was “95% effective against COVID-19.” Several weeks later, the actual trial results were published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

        In the vaccine group, 8 out of 18,198 people had COVID-19 symptoms (0.04%)
        In the placebo group, 162 out of 18,325 people had COVID-19 symptoms (0.88%)

        The vaccine reduced the baseline risk from 0.88% down to 0.04% after two months. That is, a ‘relative risk reduction (RRR) of 95% but an absolute risk reduction (ARR) of 0.84%.

        Hence, if someone’s baseline risk of COVID-19 is very low to begin with (as it is for most people under 50 years), a 100% reduction in risk is trivial.

        An editorial in The Lancet compared the RRR of each vaccine to the ARR:

        Vaccine ¦ Relative Risk Reduction ¦ Absolute Risk Reduction
        __________________________________________
        Pfizer ¦ (RRR) 95% ¦ (ARR) 0.84%
        Moderna ¦ (RRR) 91% ¦ (ARR) 1.2%
        Astrazeneca ¦ (RRR) 67% ¦ (ARR) 1.3%’

          1. f_lawless

            Prior to the Covid era, if any polio vaccine had caused even a fraction of the serious adverse events that have been recorded to date for the Covid vaccines in the various official reporting systems, its roll out would have been already halted and a proper investigation initiated. In the Covid era, there are other top-down forces at play which are more concerned with using the Covid vaccine programs to implement new systems of surveillance, control and finance than to protect public health. That’s why no such investigation has been carried out and the plug hasn’t been pulled yet.

          2. Cian

            LOL
            you don’t know your Polio vaccine history. There were lots of issues with the first mass vaccine:

            In April 1955, soon after mass polio vaccination began in the US, the Surgeon General began to receive reports of patients who contracted paralytic polio about a week after being vaccinated with Salk polio vaccine from the Cutter pharmaceutical company, with the paralysis limited to the limb the vaccine was injected into. The Cutter vaccine had been used in vaccinating 200,000 children in the western and midwestern United States.[94] Later investigations showed that the Cutter vaccine had caused 40,000 cases of polio, killing 10
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine

      4. E'Matty

        Absolutely not touted as 100% effective you say?

        AstraZeneca vaccine 100pc effective against severe Covid, study finds

        https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-100pc-effective-against-severe-covid-study-finds-40224423.html

        https://extra.ie/2021/02/25/news/irish-news/luke-oneill-vaccine-efficacy

        The thread, which was posted by physician and scientist Eric Topol, noted that all five vaccines are 100% effective for protection against serious illness or hospitalisation

        Luke O’Neil “No end to the good vaccine news today- 5 vaccines give 100% protection against severe disease” wahaay, 100% protection against severe disease. That Tweet didn’t age well, did it?

        1. Cian

          I thought you had an IQ of 160 or something.

          Can you not understand the difference between the following:

          “100% effective against Covid”

          and

          “100% effective for protection against serious illness or hospitalisation”

          (I’ve added some bold and underlining to help you see the difference because is is a bit subtle [subtle means “hard to notice or see”]).

          1. Chris

            But there not effective against serious illness and hospitalisation otherwise the ICUs would’nt have fully vaccinated patients.

            Would they? Shill.

          2. SOQ

            “100% effective against Covid”

            and

            “100% effective for protection against serious illness or hospitalisation”

            What is the difference? Everyone who has serious illness of hospitalised has CoVid-19?

    2. Sean

      “gov.uk stated vaccinated are not making antibodies at the same level as the unvaccinated, will this get worse with mutations?” Not true.

        1. Cian

          @Jono claim: “gov.uk stated vaccinated are not making antibodies at the same level as the unvaccinated, will this get worse with mutations?”

          @Jono “evidence”: Page 24

          Can you be more explicit please?

          Page 24 doesn’t say what you are claiming.
          – the word “mutation” doesn’t appear anywhere in that PFD;
          – Page 24 doesn’t differentiate between vaccinated and unvaccinated

          2. Cian

            Again, you provide a link… but nothing there supports your arguement.
            no mention of mutations. No mention of vaccinated or unvaccinated.

          3. Jono

            Q: What is the different between COVID-19 antibodies that you develop from exposure to the virus and antibodies you develop as a reaction to the vaccine?

            A: Antibodies that an individual produces when they’ve been exposed to the virus are slightly different from the antibodies that an individual produces when they’ve been vaccinated. When an individual has been infected with a virus, they produce antibodies to multiple regions of a virus, including the nucleocapsid protein. An individual who has received a COVID-19 vaccine will produce antibodies to the spike protein of the virus, but not the nucleocapsid protein, which will only occur in the event of a COVID-19 infection.

            The part

            “An individual who has received a COVID-19 vaccine will produce antibodies to the spike protein of the virus, but not the nucleocapsid protein, which will only occur in the event of a COVID-19 infection.”

            is the relevant part.

            From the Red Cross website. Similar results shown by UK.gov

          4. Cian

            @Jono
            That is very different to your original (false) claim which was about vaccinated Vs unvaccinated (and something about mutations)

            That link is natural immunity (based on previous exposure to Covid) Vs vaccine immunity.

  7. Gavin

    Totally mental, just reading through the comments, and if it’s any sort of reflection on the general population, everyone is confused and going around in circles. What an absolute clusterf88k

    1. Micko

      Heh heh

      Yup. But what are we gonna do eh? The hubris of us to think we can understand and control a microscopic virus in the first place. What are we like?

      How can WE possibly interpret the data, when the “experts” can’t even get their predictions and models right.

      Probably the best question to ask is why the fupp do we (the general public) have access to all this data in the first place? It’s maddening ffs.

      We love an aul pattern us humans. Problem is, we’re all full of biases and will represent those patterns in a way that best serves our world view.

      So pick a side trot out all our opinions and have a laugh.

      It’s later then you think.

      1. Cian

        The hubris of us to think we can understand and control a microscopic virus in the first place

        How many (younger) people do you know that had Polio?

    2. SOQ

      The thing about the whole vaccines work / vaccines don’t work argument is that over any period of time, nobody is defining what ‘work’ actually means.

      We know that over a six month period their efficacy wanes and all sorts of figures are bandied about, but let us just say it is substantial. So, whatever ‘work’ it may offer after one month is not the same as three months, is definitely not the same as six months.

      And that not even considering the fact we were sold a pup when it came to infectiousness nor what state people’s immune systems may be in once they stop taking them.

      1. Gavin

        I had the first two jabs, but I think you’d have to be crazy to sign up to a subscription service for vaccines every 4- 6months (or who knows maybe less) with no end in sight, being pushed by an industry that has a history of putting profit before health and backed by a bunch of politicians with a similar dodgy history that I wouldn’t trust to pack a shopping bag without making a ball.s of it

          2. Cian

            @Jono 50 doses – these are of different vaccines.

            I’m talking about multiple “booster” shots of the same vaccine.

          3. GiggidyGoo

            We’re talking about the here-and-now. Throwing in something about the 6-in-1 is just your usual attempt to divert and distract. SOQ or Gavin didn’t mention Children. They mentioned what’s unfolding with the ‘roll out’ of these vaccines which looks like turning into twice per year. How many doses of the covid vaccine are being put forward now that people should be given – go, on – Guess!
            A booster shot is a dose. Same as the way farmers used to dose their cows every year with Nilzan. Same product, yearly dose. I don’t have an example though with Seat Belts in it. Sorry.

          4. Cian

            @GiggidyGoo

            HSE recommends the following Immunisation Schedule for babies:

            2 Months
            6 in 1 + MenB* + PCV +Rotavirus

            4 Months
            6 in 1 + MenB* + Rotavirus

            6 Months
            6 in 1 + PCV + MenC

            12 Months
            MMR + MenB

            13 Months
            Hib/MenC + PCV

            THREE doses of 6-in-1 over 4 months;
            THREE doses of PCV over 11 months.

            It is usual for the immune system to need THREE doses of a vaccine to ensure continued protection.

          6. Cian

            I don’t know if it will stop at three.

            Evidence from Israel suggests that the 3rd dose boost protection higher than the previous two. So it might be enough.

          8. Gavin

            Cian if you’re happy to indefinitely get a shot every six months that’s your business, personally I think its nuts and wouldn’t consider it

          9. Micko

            Cian’s setting up the narrative where he can call you unvaccinated in two months time Gavin. ;p

            Three stabs is where it’s at doncha know!

          10. SOQ

            As Chris says- Israel is prepping for 4th and some people in UK are already on 4th- except they skipped called the 3rd a ‘booster’ because they were vulnerable- which somehow means they can change the terminology.

          11. Sailor Gerry

            Vaccine’s over all are pretty poo at keeping people safe.
            These most recent clot shots are worse than big pharma’s average rubbish.
            My wife saw that my kids were inoculated, under duress to age 5.
            For me, on a health benefit equation, they offer nothing positive, and the clot shots are worse again. There will be no more jabs for any of us.
            I have worked at sea for 30 years and have taken a full yellow card, appropriate for my area of operation, I am done, and will take no more.
            Nature and common sense will keep us alive, if we do not let the scientists wreck our natural immune response to pathogens.

    3. freewheeling

      Governments took charge and gave us the impression they could control this virus/pandemic. They keep jumping from pilar to post to try to maintain that illusion but every new distracting measure has been a failure, and may in the final analysis have only made things worse. They just don’t want to own up to that fact and will keep distracting now as long as they are around.

      1. Cian

        what are you talking about?

        “as long as they are around” I hope we will have governments for a long time because the other option (Mad Max) is terrifying.

      2. Sean

        They absolutely did not say they could control it. At best, they said there was *hope* the vaccines could get us out the other side.

        But the vaccines have been MASSIVELY effective in what they promised to do: reduce infections, hospitalisations and death. But when you have the opening up of society, as we’ve seen in the last few weeks, then 1 in 20 breakthrough cases are still a LOT of cases. I shudder to think what it would have been like if we’d opened up without the vaccines.

  8. galaxiapolizia

    more fantastic (self-serving) news from our wonderful future Taoiseach…
    (tho no inspirational quotes from ‘Lord of the Rings’ this time :-(
    or grubby e50 bets on the side, eh, that we know of…)
    but a lovely picture of Leo…!

    independent.ie/news/covid-jab-likely-to-be-three-course-vaccine-says-varadkar-as-approval-given-for-those-with-underlying-conditions-41058116.html

  9. just millie

    Here’s some (anecdotal) food for thought.

    For the past 3-4 months I’ve been suffering from very heavy and very frequent periods. They were severe enough that tests were done and found inconclusive. In the end, my GP put it down to stress and anxiety, which I’ll admit to struggling with lately. Today my GP rang me to follow up on a few things and mentioned that a less than common side effect of the vaccine, for women anyways, is that of heavy and/or irregular periods. The issue has resolved itself now and Auntie Flo only shows up when expected.

    Any other female readers experience this following vaccination?

    2. Oro

      Out of interest M what does ‘very frequent’ mean in relation to time? I don’t have any followup btw just curious. Glad they’ve recalibrated btw – must have been v frustrating!

      1. just millie

        They went from a 34 day cycle to 17-19 day cycle, and my periods, which would have been fairly standard 4-5 days, lengthened to 7 days. They went from manageable to painful and heavy.

        I’m inclined to think it was a combination of stress and possible side effects. My GP didn’t confirm that it was one or the other, but just mentioned it as a possibility.

        3. Oro

          That’s a real seachange. The human body is so fascinating in how it manifests or deals with stress. Anyway glad you’re back to normal programming.

          1. benblack

            Programmable avatars – the preferred way to infiltrate your PC and enter your home.

            Not as bright as you think you are, Oro.

  10. SOQ

    It is a well reported injury Millie- count yourself lucky if it has cleared in up in such a time frame, because others had it for six months or more.

    Anyways best of health and wishing you a speedy recovery.

    2. Poor oul divil too

      Love this
      Literally crawling around in Women’s bathroom to find something negative to say

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