Changing Atlantic Currents

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95 thoughts on “Changing Atlantic Currents”

  1. John Smith

    The trouble nowadays is that the bile that comes from those who are viciously in favour of all the restrictions, vaccinations, discrimination, etc, is so extreme that you can’t tell whether it is actually satire from someone who is in the opposite camp…

  2. RuilleBuille

    There’s more people queueing outside Croke Park than ever attended any far right anti-vaxxer protest.

    1. John Smith

      Not surprising as there hasn’t been a far right anti-vaxxer protest yet. Why would there be? ‘Far right anti-vaxxer’ is an inaccurate insult coined by people who ignore facts in order to push their own point of view.

        1. Micko

          Ah now hang on John. RuilleBuille has a good point.

          You WOULD have to wonder who’s behind these protests.

          Far-right? Who knows?

          Fascists? Who knows?

          All I know is, since I went to that ‘no masks on kids’ rally last week I’ve had an insatiable appetite to hit anyone who isn’t white or Irish and have been shooting my right arm up in the air like Dr feckin Strangelove.

          “Schnel, autung mien fuheeeeeer”

          I guess the far- right brainwashing is pretty powerful.

          5. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            jaysus
            and here’s me sitting only licking envelopes for my Christmas cards

        2. John Smith

          My anti-vaxxer protests??? You do make assumptions, don’t you?

          You’ve named six people who may or may not have been present at one or more of the various protests, relating to issues around Covid-19 (none of the protests being against vaccination per se, of course, but you know that). Now name all the other people present and include their political views.

        3. Cui Bono?

          They’re entitled to join the protest with all of us left wingers and no wingers – all are welcome.

          Last year Justin Barret and his party tried to capitalise on the protests and tried to get many of us to attend his own one outside the Dáil – I didn’t go but I saw a video of it and there was only about 20 people there. They are not very popular. Most people at the anti-lockdown protests have no interest in the “far right”.

      2. bisted

        …when the history of this pandemic is finally written, I hope some credit is given to the far right in Ireland and their contribution towards convincing so many people to become vaccinated…seldom have so few influenced so many…

        1. John Smith

          Many a true word spoken in jest, bisted. The actions of those effectively forcing people to take the vaccine rather than suffer unfair discrimination are indeed of the nature of fascist governments’ actions.

      3. Tom J

        Were you hibernating, there’s been loads of far right protest’s. The people taking the vaccines are not standing outside the GPO demanding people to take the vaccines.

        1. K. Cavan

          So, Tom J, are the people who are injected to within an inch of their lives all Communists, then? What an interesting mind you have, not to mention your sophisticated view of Politics.

          1. Tom J

            @K. Cavan, Do you see any Communists in government. If the people talking the vaccines were Communists then we would have a Communist government.

  3. anolderman

    I think I’m NOT anti-Vax in that I do NOT move to hinder those wishing to inject themselves. I wish to have the bodily right not to have someone inject me. A rock I’m happy to perish on. Perhaps the frightened might consider this and back off else we come to the point where something stronger must happen. I’m reminded of the lyrics “If you tolerate this then your children will be next”. The injections leak, don’t stop infection or transmission. If they did then I grant you a platform to stand on. The disease is not that deadly. Panic & fear drives the weak of mind & will.

        1. White Dove

          I’ve been saying this about Omicron from the beginning, viruses usually mutate to become milder.

          The original syphilis was far more virulent and vicious and fast-killing than the 19th century version. Same with waves of the Great Flu.

          1. SOQ

            Absolutely- this is basic virology and yet they wouldn’t even accept that was the most likely scenario.

            If there is one lesson to be learned out of all this, it is the power that the Pharmaceutical industry has- and that should be a Left wing lesson, not Right.

          3. Nigel

            By all accounts Omicron spreads like wildfire, and we don’t actually have a complete picture of its severity.

          4. SOQ

            We don’t have a complete picture of SARS-CoV-2 generally but- has anyone actually died from the David Bowie styled Omicron?

            Or, is it just another bad smell blowing in the wind- mainly from politician’s back ends.

          5. Nigel

            It’s the not knowing that’s the problem. If Omicron starts killing people, we’ll find out soon enough.

          10. Chris

            It’ll be assets and a conversion to credits in the CBDC scheme. I imagine the crash will be well managed, with big investors dumping shares in unison – panicking & obliterating smaller traders. Then they’ll swoop back in and take it all. At a guess, anyone with less than 100 million is going to end up a pleb.

  4. Nigel

    The glee and energy with which you guys pursue your victim status, every reference no matter how slight must be amplified with loud sarcasm full of sentiments that were not present in the original. As with the story on Catherine Connell, full of people complaining about the awful labels stuck on anyone who spoke out, not hindered by the complete lack of anyone labelling her anything, so Glenn Greenwald supplies all the horrible things about people who haven’t had boosters that the original article carelessly ommitted, and now it’s as if he was quoting the article verbatim and your horror and terror are entirely justified.

    1. John Smith

      My comment was about Glenn Greenwald’s remarks, not about the original article. His comments were extreme but so extreme that he could have been indulging in satire. As SOQ has remarked in a previous post, it can be hard to tell at times.

      1. Nigel

        It’s obviously supposed to be satire, but when the source of your outrage is primarily satirical comments that are deliberately over the top and have no real relationship to what is being satirising then you know you’re manufacturing outrage, and it is not sincere. He’s monstering the article the same way that list of dead pilots was monstered. He and Broadsheet performing about the same level of ‘journalism.’

        1. John Smith

          Not obviously satire at all, I’m afraid. His comments are very much in line with the worst of the genuine one from the pro-restriction side. It is difficult to satirise the extreme. However, it is good to know that it is satire – if it is!

          1. Nigel

            Did you really think he was sincere? Can you be certain any of the views you’re talking about were real and not more of this degraded form of satire? Because the worst things I’ve seen said about unvaccinated have come from the unvaccinated giving exaggerated versions of what they claim to think the vaccinated are saying, and somehow they get treated as correct and accurate. It’s bizarre.

        2. Nigel

          I don’t see unvaxxed commenters getting told to stop commenting and go away complete with some sort of vague insinuation about something or other, and yet it’s the unvaxxed who endlessly whine about being told to shut up when they’re brave enough to disagree with the narrative.

    1. John Smith

      Anti-vax(x) is the new anti-mask, which was the new anti-lockdown. It is a catchall applied to a person you don’t agree with. All that is clear is that there is hardly anyone who is actually anti-vax!

    2. Nigel

      It’s just shorthand for a group of views. If you fell hard done by because within that group there are a whole shining constellation of diverse variations, too bad, anti-vaxx is quicker to type.

      1. benblack

        But completely inaccurate – which doesn’t bother, not only you, but everyone else who uses it in a derogatory way.

        It’s a derogatory term and that’s why you use it – stop fooling yourself.

        The only relevant galactic analogy is a black hole.

        1. Nigel

          You can get narky about the accuracy of labels on the internet or you can keep using ‘woke’ to mean whatever you want it to mean, the choice is yours

          1. benblack

            More deflection from you, Nigel.

            I don’t expect anything less or more from you, at this stage.

          3. benblack

            “What is the fallacy of deflecting?

            The tu quoque fallacy deflects criticism away from oneself by accusing the other person of the same problem or something comparable. The tu quoque fallacy is an attempt to divert blame. The fallacy usually occurs when the arguer uses apparent hypocrisy to neutralize criticism and distract from the issue.”

            Unless you have reading comprehension issues, Nigel, the above definition should be clear enough for you.

          6. Nigel

            No, I provided another example of the linguistic phenomenon you’re complaining about. Then you deflected, ironically using an accusation of defelction.

          7. benblack

            Ah, Nigel, give up, will you? – acknowledge the loss and learn from your mistakes.

            I’m not gloating here or trying to embarrass you – it’s just the way the conversation panned out.

            You’re wrong – learn, and move on.

          8. Nigel

            Are you… trying to declare victory? After deliberately driving the discussion into a dead end? And you’re presumably one of those people who claims to actually VALUE debate and discussion? Oh dear. Oh dearie dearie me.

          15. benblack

            There’s that deflection you blindly suffer from again.

            I know, it’s your mindset – it’s pathological, you can’t see or help it.

      2. John Smith

        Even if it probably only applies to a handful of people in the whole country? Why not choose something the people you call anti-vaxx really are opposed to? Or does that involve really thinking about what those people are saying and you don’t want to do that?

        1. Nigel

          Usage changes. It mutates like a virus to fit whatever it’s currently being used to signify. Perhaps it’s calculated, like US Republicans and CRT, most likely not. You can complain about it all you like but it won’t help, and soon all you’re doing is complaining about it and people will care even less what your actual views about anything are.

          1. Chris

            CRT is for midwits, that don’t have the intellectual faculties to asses the world around them. Grievance politics, to take the shine off the real culprits (finance) and place it on their fellow citizens.

            A dumbfounded phenomenon that fools its adherents into thinking they’ll achieve ‘social justice’ on the way to their revolutionary utopia. Fairy-tales for the foolish. It’s unsurprising Nigel’s a fan.

          3. Nigel

            (CRT is an elective course given in some US law schools. I think it’s about contract law in the context of US racial history.)

          4. Chris

            Critical Race Theory. It’s being taught now at elementary level. QED indeed.

            Oh, and parents that questioned their children being brainwashed were labeled ‘domestic terrorists’ with the FBI arriving at parent teacher meetings.

          8. Nigel

            That’s not critical race theory. That’s what the meaning of critical race theory has been changed to. (At no point does the school itself acknowledge that it is teaching something called ‘critical race theory.’) Are you starting to get it, anti-vaxxer?

            If you can’t handle teaching about racism in a US history class, reisgning is probably the right thing to do.

          9. Chris

            I was going to argue about Critical Race Theory, and the whole ‘woke’ phenomenon, it’s usage as a political Trojan horse to indoctrinate and bring about the ‘build back better’ paradigm.

            But then I remembered, I’d be arguing with a potato – so best not.

        2. bisted

          …always preferred ratlicker…all embracing…some of the anti people are pro stuff as well…quack remedies, for example…the horse wormer or hocuspocusquinine have not gone away…

      3. K. Cavan

        As far as the Covidiots are concerned, everyone who doesn’t agree with bio-fascism is Far Right & those rejecting experimental Gene Therapy are against a totally different type of medical treatment.
        Some of them know that the whole sham is a Political Construct, others, God help them, actually still think we’re fighting a deadly plague.
        Maybe they haven’t realised that if we were facing an actual pandemic or a disease with an IFR of 20%, 10%, 5%, even 1% nobody would have to be propagandised & coerced into taking a vaccine, however fake it is.

  8. f_lawless

    Just over a month ago the British Medical Journal broke a story entitled

    “Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial”.

    “A regional director who was employed at the research organisation Ventavia Research Group has told The BMJ that the company falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in Pfizer’s pivotal phase III trial. Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding”.

    Then we have this story:

    https://trialsitenews.com/outrageous-lack-of-transparency-pfizer-now-asks-court-for-75-years-to-hide-details-of-covid-19-vaccine-trial-results/

    “Outrageous Lack of Transparency—Pfizer Now Asks Court for 75 Years to Hide Details of COVID-19 Vaccine Trial Results”

    TrialSite has tracked attorney Aaron Siri and his client’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) case against Pfizer for full disclosure of clinical trials documentation. Siri shared in a previous post that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) asked a federal judge to delay the full disclosure of all relevant documentation till 2076—55 years from now! Siri, who is a partner with the law firm Siri Glimstad representing the Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency (PHMPT) countered to the court that Pfizer should disclose the entire batch of documentation within 108 days which just happens to be the amount of time it took for the Gold Standard regulatory agency to review and approve Pfizer’s vaccine. After the court-ordered both parties to submit updated briefs, now in what can only be considered an insult to injury, Pfizer “doubles down.” Meaning the pharmaceutical company now wants to hide the extent of all of the material information till 2096.

    As attorney Siri writes “this is “Not a typo.” They are demanding 75 years of data secrecy. Yes, the FDA is agreeing to share about 12,000 pages in the first couple of months but thereafter they would release, at a snail’s pace”

    There’s reasonable grounds to suspect that criminal negligence has occurred – implicating both Pfizer and the authorities tasked with granting emergency use authorisation – and that now an outrageous cover up is underway in the US.

    In a sane world these events would be enough to put a pause on any current deployments pending an investigation And yet it’s full steam ahead with booster campaigns, nothing to see here

    1. benblack

      Copying and pasting a comment by Richard Carroll over on OffGuardian:

      “The expression QR Code sounds modern and technically sophisticated, and thus obscures its function. I think we should start to refer to it as a “BAR CODE”. Everyone knows what that is. Products are barcoded. We are being BARCODED. WE are being turned into products (or actually vehicles for the compelled products of the pharma-state).
      I think people might more readily realize what is being done to them if they make this connection.”

      https://off-guardian.org/2021/12/08/discuss-uk-announces-plan-b-in-the-shadow-of-the-party-that-never-happened/

  9. benblack

    Copying and pasting a comment by Richard Carroll over on OffGuardian:

    “The expression QR Code sounds modern and technically sophisticated, and thus obscures its function. I think we should start to refer to it as a “BAR CODE”. Everyone knows what that is. Products are barcoded. We are being BARCODED. WE are being turned into products (or actually vehicles for the compelled products of the pharma-state).
    I think people might more readily realize what is being done to them if they make this connection.”

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/12/08/discuss-uk-announces-plan-b-in-the-shadow-of-the-party-that-never-happened/

  11. SailorGerry

    I do not recall what the Diegal projection was for Israel as my concerns lay closer to home.

    As benblack above points out, the QR code is a massive control mechanism that if accepted, will control every facet of life.

    But the root of the problem is a small group of unelected people, planning a reset and asset theft on a massive scale using the plandemic as a cover story. Who in their right mind would allow the same central bankers, that have printed the worlds currencies into oblivion, to then have the keys to the digital printing press for the digital currency they want to foist upon us.

    I am opposed to the NWO plans that are pretty clear to see, and believe they should be opposed at every juncture and by all available means. If this makes me a far right antivaxxer, well I guess I will have to wear that badge with pride.

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