Former Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas died Thursday at his Roswell, Ga., home. He was 33.
Roswell police said Thursday night that Thomas was found dead in his home. The police added that preliminary reports indicated Thomas’ death might have resulted from a medical issue, according to ESPN.
“Preliminary information is that his death stems from a medical issue, and our investigators currently have no reason to believe otherwise,” public information officer Tim Lupo said in a statement early Friday
There’s a truth dose now? SOQ definitely won’t take that.
thebeanmachineeee
Jesus Christ Bodger, the family would probably appreciate if you didn’t use his death to further your conspiracy theories.
tom2
This is mild compared to blaming a tragic suicide on the vaccine,
Troll Farm Exterminator
This is what’s known as Fake Outrage. Just itching for an excuse to bash Broadsheet. Who appointed Bean Machine as the spokesman for the family?
Joe
Bodger (or whoever the bellend is) should just shut down broadsheet at this stage. Jumping on every death as some evidence of a global conspiracy. What an absolute arsewipe of a website this has turned into.
thebeanmachineeee
+1
uncle gaybo
+19
Nilbert
Agreed, this post shows the absolute desparation of Broadsheet to continue this hysterical fear mongering.
Bodger
Nilbert, why are all these fit people collapsing?
tom2
How do you know this guy was fit?
Nigel
Bodger now turns to Nilbert, world-renowned expert on Fit People Collapsing for a detailed explanation of this worrying phenomenon. It’s literaly the least he can do. Sorry, will do. It’s literally the least he will do.
johnny
“He had been suffering from seizures for over a year, and we believe he had a seizure when he was showering,” Bonseigneur said early Friday. ”
“LaTonya Bonseigneur, a first cousin who grew up with Thomas and was so close they considered themselves siblings, told The Associated Press the family believes he died from a seizure.’
bleh… seizure caused by vaccine they will say. No point putting facts in front of these clowns.
Nick Kelly
Always a pleasure to read your contributions, Tom.
Mike
Look Bodger, you are an absolute clown. If all these “fit people collapsing” had been as a result of the virus, then it also means that there is global conspiracy of doctors and coroners all over the world covering this fact up. That would involve a conspiracy of literally hundreds of thousands of people. Amazingly, not one single doctor or coroner anywhere has decided to spill the beans to the media or anyone else.
The more angry people like you attack Bodger the more respect I have for him. And yet I totally agree with you!
The worlds gone mad!
Troll Farm Exterminator
Have a lovely weekend ,Mike. Always a pleasure to read your insightful comments.
Gearoid
Bodger is not the bellend.
The bellend who censors Bodger’s posts is the bellend.
Captain Cliff Edge at the helm of the ghost ship Broadsheet.
Nick Kelly
Such an insightful contribution. wishing you all the best for the weekend.
SOQ
One report says he was having seizures for a couple of months, while the other says for a year?
The problem with these vaccines is that they appear to sometimes exacerbate existing conditions, some of which people may not even know they have. They are not supposed to of course, but it makes it very difficult to say for certain what the root cause of death actually was.
Tom J
What vaccines would that be?
Broadbag
Still nothing about unvaccinated Bayern footballer Joshua Kimmich and his Covid related lung damage, but of course more of this unsubstantiated dreck.
Micko
Well I think the BBC, Sky Sports, Sky News, The 42, DW, RTE, Daily Mail, Bavarian Football Works and Premier League news have it covered.
And that’s just the first page search results.
I’m not a fan of these speculative posts on the cause of people’s deaths either, but you don’t come to Broadsheet for everyday news either now do you?
Mainstream got you covered…
Broadbag
Any chance of a bit of balance on here? No, didn’t think so, doesn’t fit the narrative.
Micko
This is a very complex issue.
Yes, people have died (been harmed) from Covid
Yes, people have died (been harmed) from the vaccine
Both those statements are true. We can debate the numbers later. But both are true..
Now when you look at mainstream media, which one of those truths do you think is more represented in their reporting?
And which one is more represented here?
And which one has millions of Euro’s behind it?
Broadsheet IS the balance.
(however small that balance may be)
Nilbert
“We can debate the numbers later.”
The numbers is the issue. The vast difference in the risk profile of the pandemic versus the vaccine is the actual issue.
Nigel
Bad news presentation, deliberately bad news presentation, is NOT balance. It’s disinformation. it’s another form of propaganda.
‘We can debate the numbers later’
Listen to yourself. We’te in (hopefully) the tail end of an ongoing pandemic. If you don’t trust the BBC and RTE, then you definitely can’t trust Broadsheet or other online news sources, and we can’t wait for it to slowly dawn on you that you’re being misled before things can be done.
Micko
“The numbers is the issue. The vast difference in the risk profile of the pandemic versus the vaccine is the actual issue.”
Yes, I agree Nilbert. It is a numbers game.
And since we BOTH agree now that it IS ok to let people die. All there is left to discuss it’s what number is acceptable to let die.
Good stuff
Ye know, I do find it pretty funny that when I stated nearly two years ago now, that the absolute horrors and misery to people’s lives caused by lockdown and other measures, would VASTLY outweigh the number of people who actually died from Covid, I was pretty much labeled a monster on Broadsheet.
Seems that attitude is hunky dory now.
Weird times eh?
Nigel
‘Yes, I agree Nilbert. It is a numbers game.’
It’s obviously a lot more than that. For one thing it’s also about the number of people who are saved. Your myopia again.
Micko
“it’s also about the number of people who are saved.”
Yes. Why are you agreeing with me now?
Do you think that the Covid restrictions have harmed and shortened the lives of more that 5600 people in Ireland?
Myopia indeed.
Nigel
‘Why are you agreeing with me now?’
Haven’t you claimed to be generally opposed to collective actions to protect the vulenerable? You seem to recoil in libertarian horror at the very sight of a mask. That feels like the opposite to agreeing with you.
Micko
“Haven’t you claimed to be generally opposed to collective actions to protect the vulenerable?”
I was always fine with protecting the vulnerable, as long as it doesn’t interfere with other people’s freedoms.
But we didn’t do that. Did we? No.
And masks were only introduced six months into this mess – so don’t give me that rubbish.
Again,
Do you think that the Covid restrictions have harmed and shortened the lives of more that 5600 people in Ireland?
Nigel
‘I was always fine with protecting the vulnerable, as long as it doesn’t interfere with other people’s freedoms’
So yes, you’re opposed to protecting the vulnerable during a pandemic of a highly contagious disease.
‘And masks were only introduced six months into this mess – so don’t give me that rubbish.’
I’m sure this confirms something you think you know for a fact about masks, but in reality, it just means we should have introduced them sooner, but at least we did introduce them.
Micko
Yes indeed.
Masks introduced – Aug 11th 2020 – 33 Covid cases in Ireland on that day.
What a rip roaring success they have been! Ha ha ha!
Again,
Do you think that the Covid restrictions have harmed and shortened the lives of more that 5600 people in Ireland?
Nigel
I have no idea what that question is supposed to mean. Do you mean, have the responses saved more than the pandemic has harmed? How can I know? It’s worth a try, though.
Micko
From Michael McNamara on Twitter
“Suicide figures for the second quarter of 2021 were up 192% on the same period last year. 78.1% were male. The cause of this tragic and alarming increase must be urgently investigated with an open mind.”
And? Mental health services are in rag order, nothing to do with covid.
SOQ
When I first suggested this might be the case, the home working- ok employed- civil servants rushed to demand evidence.
Nigel
I’d doubt it. Mental health service provisions in this state have never been great. Improving, yes, but still not great.
Chris
‘Nothing to do with Covid’ – what an utterly ignorant & callous take on the reality of both the isolationism & psychological torture of citizen in the name of ‘public health’ ie helping pharma jab as many people as possible – repeatedly.
Even if the ‘pandemic’ was to end tomorrow, the psychological issues people have endured & will continue to endure long after – may be insurmountable. Irish suicides are up 192%. Children have no idea what ‘normal’ ever meant. The elderly have died alone. Evil.
Nigel
Mental health service provisions for mental health before the pandemic were poor, you disingenuous twerp.
WHICH IS TO SAY, for the hard of hearing at the back, if we had a decent mental health service we would have dealt with the mental health difficulties associated with the pandemic better. You always go into a crisis with the services and infrastructure you have, not the ones you wish you had, a salutory lesson if anyone would bloody listen.
Chris
I’m on about DURING https://www.broadsheet.ie/contact/ And there is no possible mental health system that could possibly deal with the psychological torture of an entire population. ‘Behavioural scientists’ gaslighting a nation – muh public health crisis. Evil.
Nigel
You don’t miraculously sprout a decent mental health service DURING a massive crisis, you turnip.
Chris
No one is that slow. Did you miss what I said? It would be impossible to have a mental health service, capable of dealing with the consequences of the enacted policy. You’d need repeated counseling for every citizen.
Nigel
There’s a massive gap between the one we have and your conveniently impossible ideal. We could have done a lot better. We could do a lot better.
benblack
Build Back Better.
Broadbag
By the way Micko, Christian Eriksen’s collapse, Cheslea/Watford soccer fans medical incidents in the stands, Bob Odenkirk heart attack etc were ALL widely covered on BBC etc but the big difference here is the Kimmich incident can’t be spun as ”oooh, probably the VAXXX!!!” as he wasn’t vaccinated, so therefore not a peep about it, so your flippant ”mainstream got you covered” comment is null and void.
Micko
Once again I don’t agree with these speculative posts either. I’m not arguing for them. I don’t think they are helpful.
But, I think you’re proving my point above
People are dying and being harmed from Covid AND the vaccine.
One message has Millions of euros behind it and seeks to squash the other narrative.
And yet both are undeniably true.
BBC vs Broadsheet – who will win?
Broadbag
So misinformation and propaganda are fine as long as there’s no money behind it?
That’s where we’re at, spin something to suit your agenda and publish it as fact to be lapped up by people who want to believe and are desperate for an echo chamber.
Like the ”ZOMG PFIZER SAYS WE NEED 5 BOOSTERS FOR OMICRON!” article the other day – let’s not interrogate it and discover there’s a minor confusion in how it was worded and in fact it’s wrong, let’s not redact it or post a correction when it’s pointed out that it has been ‘misread’ no just leave it up as pure propaganda and lies.
There’s no balance in a lie.
Bodger
I think these athletes are dropping because of the vaccine. You all say it’s normal.
Micko
Two questions Broadbag,
The vaccine has killed people – yes or no?
Has mainstream media ever lied about Covid and proved misinformation and propoganda – yes or no?
Nigel
Why are you asking him questions? Just say what you want to say and stop trying to be clever, it’s dishonest. Whaetever the answers are they doesn’t excuse the incredible and presumably calculated sloppiness of how covid news stories are presented here.
Micko
Sir Nigealot to the rescue!
Fear not Broadbag, your brave prince is here.
Thou will not have to answer the hard questions. ;P
Nigel
I think these athletes are dropping because of the vaccine’
Any worthy newshound would turn that into the basis of an investigation, not worthless speculation based on a random hunch.
Daisy Chainsaw
Bodger, what if they’re dropping because of covid? Most sports teams have had staff and members test positive in the weeks and months before these players’ collapse.
Bodger
They had covid and these are the side effects?
Nigel
‘Thou will not have to answer the hard questions. ;P’
Neither will you, apparently.
Broadbag
@Micko So let’s say ”yes” and ”yes” to your questions, it doesn’t excuse the quality of the posting on the issue on this website, it’s tantamount to ”they lie so we can lie”, except I’m pretty sure I’ve been lied to far more often on Broadsheet in recent months than from anywhere else and some of those other lies may have been honest mistakes, whereas that excuse is no longer valid for Broadsheet.
And don’t fret about being called to account by Nigel, Micko, I’m sure SOQ or one of the others will be along to high five you in a minute.
Micko
Cept, Broadsheet isn’t professional journalism is it?
Bodger has literally said the “HE BELIEVES” these have been caused by the vaccine.
That’s his opinion. And as they say “everyone has one.”
I also happen to disagree with him, but you can’t call for people to be silenced coz you don’t like their opinion.
That’s a bit fash
Nigel
‘They had covid and these are the side effects?’
If only the people responsible for posting these stories would also include any relevant details like that. Must be most frustrating for you to have to ask about them in the comments.
Bodger
It was a question for Daisy in reply to her comment. Cool it on the obnoxiousness.
+1
We can all be self pleasurers without being disagreeable as well
Nigel
‘Cept, Broadsheet isn’t professional journalism is it?’
Cop out.
‘That’s his opinion. And as they say “everyone has one.”’
Cop out.
‘I also happen to disagree with him, but you can’t call for people to be silenced coz you don’t like their opinion. ‘
How useful is it that we’re all forming laypersons’ opinions based on fragments of stories carefully framed to suggest a particular slant, rather than working off the actual available facts and expert opinions? Your disagreement (and mine) is worthless. Opinions don’t matter more than facts. Bodger is posting heavily slanted poorly-sourced stories for the people who agree with him, and this is the alternative to the mainstream narrative?
Bodger
There will be more of these deaths and you will eventually run out of insults.
Nigel
‘It was a question for Daisy in reply to her comment.’
Seems like the wrong person to go to for background on this story but ok.
Broadbag
@Micko: It’s no longer ”journalism” in any form whatsoever, which is sad as it used to be pretty damn good at it.
I haven’t called for anyone to be ‘silenced’ so you can f-off with your ”fash” guff, I’m calling out the blatant lies on here, why you’re trying to defend them is your own business.
Bodger
Broadbag. I think you’re angry because you know something is wrong. It’s not normal these people dropping like this.
Bodger
‘blatant lies’
Why do think they are collapsing?
Micko
“Cop out.’
So if it’s not Bodgers opinion – what is it then?
Broadbag, it’s just another man’s opinion.
Chill man. You’re free to disagree
Daisy Chainsaw
You mean you haven’t “DoNe De ReSeArCh” on covid after effects Bodger?
There’s a surprise /sarcasm.
Bodger
I asked did you believe they are dying from the side effects of covid?
Nigel
‘So if it’s not Bodgers opinion – what is it then?’
That’s not what ‘cop out’ means. Of course it’s his opinion. But he’s a front page poster of a popular news-site visited daily by lots of people. He can be challenged for the sloppy and misleading way he presents stories in order to reflect his opinions.
+ Micko
You are a complete idiot, on many topics in my opinion, but you are our idiot.
And here’s the thing instead of attacking you I love you very much
Daisy Chainsaw
It’s a pandemic. There’s a virus sweeping the world that’s affecting millions, including athletes. It’s churlish, not to mention really stupi,d to think athletes are all dropping because of TeH VaCcInE!!1!! only and not covid.
Nigel
Y’ou think he’s not challenged Nigel?’
No, I said we’re literally challenging him right now, hello?
‘Even I’ve challenged him on this topic.’
I hate to tell you, you put way more energy into challenging the people challenging him.
‘but, look at all the people on all these types of threads calling for BS to be shut down’
What, an occasional one-off commenter doing a drive-by? I get told to shut up and buzz off more often.
‘Only the mainstream narrative must exist.’
This is not an alternative. It’s misinformation.
Nigel
‘Why do think they are dropping?’
Unlike yourself I’d hate to speculate without the relevant information.
Micko
“This is not an alternative. It’s misinformation.”
That’s YOUR opinion…
Nigel
You’ve pretty much said it’s yours, too.
GiggidyGoo
You sure know how to get them aerated Micko.
No sign of the flu so far this year. What are the signs of flu? Same as Covid?
And all without a single bit of name calling eh Gigz. ;)
Take heed of that 1212
If you can’t debate without insults – then you’ve lost already.
benblack
I agree, Micko.
However, sometimes, you’ve just have to call a spade a spade.
*Not in this instance, obviously.
benblack
*you, not you’ve☺
Broadbag
@Micko ”You’re free to disagree” … at which point I’ll call you a facist, because you know, that’s the sign of someone who debates things calmly and with maximum ”chill”.
Broadbag
@Bodger ”why do you think they’re collapsing?”
Various reasons, some could be related to vaccines, it’s a possibility, but posting various cases where causes are unknown but hinting it’s due to vaccines is disingenuous.
I’ll ask you again, what do you make of Kimmich’s lung damage from contracting Covid?
Nick Kelly
“It’s a possibility.” Cool it with the conspiracy theories, Broadbag.
Broadbag
@Bodger – What are your thoughts on unvaccinated Joshua Kimmich’s lung damage due to Covid?
tom2
Love it. He did his own research.
Hector Rameriz
Maybe it was something to do with the widely reported on concussion issue that is prevalent in the American football sport…
RuilleBuille
How smart of BS to know the medical issues of a particular death from news reports. Tell me again why we need coroners?
Nick Kelly
You need to be told twice?
Hector Rameriz
Just a quick google and one source says it’s complications from a 2019 crash he was in…
Daisy Chainsaw
Google’s in on teh conspiracy!!!
Chris
Yes, Google is part of the problem. All big tech are aligned with finance.
Still expending your Giggidy goo all over your beloved Brucie? How long did it take you to find that comment from (checks notes) July… or do you have it bookmarked? Either way, that’s beyond sad.
Scarlet for your ma for having you.
GiggidyGoo
Your beloved Brucey, Daisy. After all, you were the one that quoted him (tee hee) to back up your, em, ‘truths’.
Terrible that the only come back you have is that when someone can call you out on it, they are ‘beyond sad’ And then the usual run-away comment… ‘scarlet for yer ma’.
The sad thing about it is that it is you who quoted him, whose methods of conclusion are the exact same as Ivor Cummins. Oh the shame Daisy. Tsk tsk.
Daisy Chainsaw
I quoted him once and, thanks to you searching for it, I know it was several months ago. You’ve since been obsessed with him practically on a daily basis since. Of the two of us, he’s most definitely your beloved. If I put a quote from a rock climber or hill walker will that get you obsessing over them… And possibly get you out of that bizarre, obsessive cycle you’ve gotten yourself stuck in?
Mike
At this stage, Broadsheet should really just become a full-on Flat Earth conspiracy theory website.
bisted
…ah here…Bodger was a flat earther long before the Covid bandwagons trundled into town…
Bodger
Trying to wake you up since 2010. Instead you got woke. Not the same thing. Not the same thing at all. *stares out of window*
That made me think of the semantic meaning of the word ‘woke’ – it should be ‘awake’ shouldn’t it.? ‘Woke’ as in ‘I just woke up’ – suggests you’re still on the verge of slumber. Very fitting.
Nigel
How did you get yourself to the point where ‘woke’ is the opposite of ‘athletes are dying of the vaccine despite the complete lack of evidence?’
Nick Kelly
Zinger! What a great comment!
Dr.Fart
some people die. millions have their lives saved. ill take the odds. bodgers constant attempts to demonise the vaccine don’t change the results.
Boj
What are the true odds however?
Does anybody really know for sure Doc?
I’ve checked my own and my kids’ risk status % and it’s tiny. Granted, it’s tinier if I had a vaccine, but they’re the odds I’m looking at.
More chance of nabbing the Lotto jackpot….;-)
Dr.Fart
dunno what ur angle is here, but ive no problem with people choosing to not take a vaccine. perfectly understandable. I do however, personally think that the more people to get it the better. but I don’t shame and shun people who don’t want to. my problem is bodger, constantly putting up every little thing he finds to try put people off getting it. he can make his decision, for him, but he has access to a public news source here.. and he uses it to constantly deter people from vaccines. I have a problem with that. he talks about freedom of choice, but he’s trying to skew peoples choices, and there’s no way he’s not.
Nick Kelly
Bodger, Doctor Fart has some serious questions he wants answered. Don’t keep Dr Fart waiting…
Is “medical issue” a new euphuism for cocaine overdose?
tom2
This guy was retired so I’m not even sure what wildly wrong point you’re trying to make.
Nick Kelly
I wouldn’t worry about it, Tom.
George
KTLA in Los Angeles are reporting medical complications related to injuries in 2019 car accident but doesn’t seem to be confirmed. It unwise to speculate on the cause of a man’s death.
The telegraph have reported Siobhan Cattigan’s death was not covid related and Marvin Morgan had cavernoma
but sure keep speculating wildly.
ian-oG
Surely everyone dies of a medical issue?
Steph Pinker
Really?
Nigel
I’d look to concussion before I’d look to anything else, but hey.
Daisy Chainsaw
But hey, you’re not an obsessive antivaxx, conspiracy freak.
SOQ
I’m working my way through The Very Best of Jazz Divas- how about you?
This is what’s known as Fake Outrage. Just itching for an excuse to bash Broadsheet. Who appointed Bean Machine as the spokesman for the family?
K. Cavan
The fake vaccines really have it all, highly toxic & medically useless. Injecting that muck into your citizens, never mind your children, is medically impossible to justify, the act of psychopaths.
Not to suggest Martin & Varadker are psychopaths, they’re The Two Stooges, the worst leaders any country has ever had, their craven surrender to this farcical Pandemic narrative will be their legacy & their names will be dirt until they’re forgotten.
Sportspeople are dying in unprecedented numbers, all the 100 or so conditions associated with “vaccine damage”, many of them illnesses that previously didn’t even exist, are through the roof but the Elites want you to line up at the Jabbatoir, terrified of living long enough to die from Covid, clinging to an infantile conviction that your health is of the utmost importance to the Government & their Elite overlords.
SailorGerry
For once, a well qualified medical professional, clearly stating that the entire plandemic has been overplayed and fear used as a tool of coercion.
Which should lead an enquiring mind to the question, why are the worlds governments doing this with such gusto in a coordinated manner?
Probably steroids. Or some sort of performance-enhancing drug. But hey, let’s all go down the covidconspiracyihavenobrain rabbit hole.
or maybe it was a medical condition, but hey let’s all go down the sportsfolksareidiotdrugaddictsandhavenobrains rabbit hole.
Haha. +1
He had been having seizures following a car accident:
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-demaryius-thomas-cause-of-death-died-of-seizure-while-alone-at-home-family-says-203947932.html
There’s a truth dose now? SOQ definitely won’t take that.
Jesus Christ Bodger, the family would probably appreciate if you didn’t use his death to further your conspiracy theories.
This is mild compared to blaming a tragic suicide on the vaccine,
This is what’s known as Fake Outrage. Just itching for an excuse to bash Broadsheet. Who appointed Bean Machine as the spokesman for the family?
Bodger (or whoever the bellend is) should just shut down broadsheet at this stage. Jumping on every death as some evidence of a global conspiracy. What an absolute arsewipe of a website this has turned into.
+1
+19
Agreed, this post shows the absolute desparation of Broadsheet to continue this hysterical fear mongering.
Nilbert, why are all these fit people collapsing?
How do you know this guy was fit?
Bodger now turns to Nilbert, world-renowned expert on Fit People Collapsing for a detailed explanation of this worrying phenomenon. It’s literaly the least he can do. Sorry, will do. It’s literally the least he will do.
“He had been suffering from seizures for over a year, and we believe he had a seizure when he was showering,” Bonseigneur said early Friday. ”
“LaTonya Bonseigneur, a first cousin who grew up with Thomas and was so close they considered themselves siblings, told The Associated Press the family believes he died from a seizure.’
https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-entertainment-georgia-atlanta-bab0e2de2f51fef2ea1f304ef849c3e0
bleh… seizure caused by vaccine they will say. No point putting facts in front of these clowns.
Always a pleasure to read your contributions, Tom.
Look Bodger, you are an absolute clown. If all these “fit people collapsing” had been as a result of the virus, then it also means that there is global conspiracy of doctors and coroners all over the world covering this fact up. That would involve a conspiracy of literally hundreds of thousands of people. Amazingly, not one single doctor or coroner anywhere has decided to spill the beans to the media or anyone else.
Grow up you idiot.
…Vietnam – 5 children dead post vaccine.
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/high-school-girl-dies-seven-days-after-pfizer-vaccination-4401008.html
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/4th-child-dies-after-pfizer-vaccine-injection-in-vietnam-4400466.html
Mike, I believe they are collapsing as a result of the vaccine not the ‘virus’. On your other point, it wouldn’t take a lot of people.
The more angry people like you attack Bodger the more respect I have for him. And yet I totally agree with you!
The worlds gone mad!
Have a lovely weekend ,Mike. Always a pleasure to read your insightful comments.
Bodger is not the bellend.
The bellend who censors Bodger’s posts is the bellend.
Captain Cliff Edge at the helm of the ghost ship Broadsheet.
Such an insightful contribution. wishing you all the best for the weekend.
One report says he was having seizures for a couple of months, while the other says for a year?
The problem with these vaccines is that they appear to sometimes exacerbate existing conditions, some of which people may not even know they have. They are not supposed to of course, but it makes it very difficult to say for certain what the root cause of death actually was.
What vaccines would that be?
Still nothing about unvaccinated Bayern footballer Joshua Kimmich and his Covid related lung damage, but of course more of this unsubstantiated dreck.
Well I think the BBC, Sky Sports, Sky News, The 42, DW, RTE, Daily Mail, Bavarian Football Works and Premier League news have it covered.
And that’s just the first page search results.
I’m not a fan of these speculative posts on the cause of people’s deaths either, but you don’t come to Broadsheet for everyday news either now do you?
Mainstream got you covered…
Any chance of a bit of balance on here? No, didn’t think so, doesn’t fit the narrative.
This is a very complex issue.
Yes, people have died (been harmed) from Covid
Yes, people have died (been harmed) from the vaccine
Both those statements are true. We can debate the numbers later. But both are true..
Now when you look at mainstream media, which one of those truths do you think is more represented in their reporting?
And which one is more represented here?
And which one has millions of Euro’s behind it?
Broadsheet IS the balance.
(however small that balance may be)
“We can debate the numbers later.”
The numbers is the issue. The vast difference in the risk profile of the pandemic versus the vaccine is the actual issue.
Bad news presentation, deliberately bad news presentation, is NOT balance. It’s disinformation. it’s another form of propaganda.
‘We can debate the numbers later’
Listen to yourself. We’te in (hopefully) the tail end of an ongoing pandemic. If you don’t trust the BBC and RTE, then you definitely can’t trust Broadsheet or other online news sources, and we can’t wait for it to slowly dawn on you that you’re being misled before things can be done.
“The numbers is the issue. The vast difference in the risk profile of the pandemic versus the vaccine is the actual issue.”
Yes, I agree Nilbert. It is a numbers game.
And since we BOTH agree now that it IS ok to let people die. All there is left to discuss it’s what number is acceptable to let die.
Good stuff
Ye know, I do find it pretty funny that when I stated nearly two years ago now, that the absolute horrors and misery to people’s lives caused by lockdown and other measures, would VASTLY outweigh the number of people who actually died from Covid, I was pretty much labeled a monster on Broadsheet.
Seems that attitude is hunky dory now.
Weird times eh?
‘Yes, I agree Nilbert. It is a numbers game.’
It’s obviously a lot more than that. For one thing it’s also about the number of people who are saved. Your myopia again.
“it’s also about the number of people who are saved.”
Yes. Why are you agreeing with me now?
Do you think that the Covid restrictions have harmed and shortened the lives of more that 5600 people in Ireland?
Myopia indeed.
‘Why are you agreeing with me now?’
Haven’t you claimed to be generally opposed to collective actions to protect the vulenerable? You seem to recoil in libertarian horror at the very sight of a mask. That feels like the opposite to agreeing with you.
“Haven’t you claimed to be generally opposed to collective actions to protect the vulenerable?”
I was always fine with protecting the vulnerable, as long as it doesn’t interfere with other people’s freedoms.
But we didn’t do that. Did we? No.
And masks were only introduced six months into this mess – so don’t give me that rubbish.
Again,
Do you think that the Covid restrictions have harmed and shortened the lives of more that 5600 people in Ireland?
‘I was always fine with protecting the vulnerable, as long as it doesn’t interfere with other people’s freedoms’
So yes, you’re opposed to protecting the vulnerable during a pandemic of a highly contagious disease.
‘And masks were only introduced six months into this mess – so don’t give me that rubbish.’
I’m sure this confirms something you think you know for a fact about masks, but in reality, it just means we should have introduced them sooner, but at least we did introduce them.
Yes indeed.
Masks introduced – Aug 11th 2020 – 33 Covid cases in Ireland on that day.
What a rip roaring success they have been! Ha ha ha!
Again,
Do you think that the Covid restrictions have harmed and shortened the lives of more that 5600 people in Ireland?
I have no idea what that question is supposed to mean. Do you mean, have the responses saved more than the pandemic has harmed? How can I know? It’s worth a try, though.
From Michael McNamara on Twitter
“Suicide figures for the second quarter of 2021 were up 192% on the same period last year. 78.1% were male. The cause of this tragic and alarming increase must be urgently investigated with an open mind.”
https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1469402549115576327?s=20
And? Mental health services are in rag order, nothing to do with covid.
When I first suggested this might be the case, the home working- ok employed- civil servants rushed to demand evidence.
I’d doubt it. Mental health service provisions in this state have never been great. Improving, yes, but still not great.
‘Nothing to do with Covid’ – what an utterly ignorant & callous take on the reality of both the isolationism & psychological torture of citizen in the name of ‘public health’ ie helping pharma jab as many people as possible – repeatedly.
Even if the ‘pandemic’ was to end tomorrow, the psychological issues people have endured & will continue to endure long after – may be insurmountable. Irish suicides are up 192%. Children have no idea what ‘normal’ ever meant. The elderly have died alone. Evil.
Mental health service provisions for mental health before the pandemic were poor, you disingenuous twerp.
WHICH IS TO SAY, for the hard of hearing at the back, if we had a decent mental health service we would have dealt with the mental health difficulties associated with the pandemic better. You always go into a crisis with the services and infrastructure you have, not the ones you wish you had, a salutory lesson if anyone would bloody listen.
I’m on about DURING https://www.broadsheet.ie/contact/ And there is no possible mental health system that could possibly deal with the psychological torture of an entire population. ‘Behavioural scientists’ gaslighting a nation – muh public health crisis. Evil.
You don’t miraculously sprout a decent mental health service DURING a massive crisis, you turnip.
No one is that slow. Did you miss what I said? It would be impossible to have a mental health service, capable of dealing with the consequences of the enacted policy. You’d need repeated counseling for every citizen.
There’s a massive gap between the one we have and your conveniently impossible ideal. We could have done a lot better. We could do a lot better.
Build Back Better.
By the way Micko, Christian Eriksen’s collapse, Cheslea/Watford soccer fans medical incidents in the stands, Bob Odenkirk heart attack etc were ALL widely covered on BBC etc but the big difference here is the Kimmich incident can’t be spun as ”oooh, probably the VAXXX!!!” as he wasn’t vaccinated, so therefore not a peep about it, so your flippant ”mainstream got you covered” comment is null and void.
Once again I don’t agree with these speculative posts either. I’m not arguing for them. I don’t think they are helpful.
But, I think you’re proving my point above
People are dying and being harmed from Covid AND the vaccine.
One message has Millions of euros behind it and seeks to squash the other narrative.
And yet both are undeniably true.
BBC vs Broadsheet – who will win?
So misinformation and propaganda are fine as long as there’s no money behind it?
That’s where we’re at, spin something to suit your agenda and publish it as fact to be lapped up by people who want to believe and are desperate for an echo chamber.
Like the ”ZOMG PFIZER SAYS WE NEED 5 BOOSTERS FOR OMICRON!” article the other day – let’s not interrogate it and discover there’s a minor confusion in how it was worded and in fact it’s wrong, let’s not redact it or post a correction when it’s pointed out that it has been ‘misread’ no just leave it up as pure propaganda and lies.
There’s no balance in a lie.
I think these athletes are dropping because of the vaccine. You all say it’s normal.
Two questions Broadbag,
The vaccine has killed people – yes or no?
Has mainstream media ever lied about Covid and proved misinformation and propoganda – yes or no?
Why are you asking him questions? Just say what you want to say and stop trying to be clever, it’s dishonest. Whaetever the answers are they doesn’t excuse the incredible and presumably calculated sloppiness of how covid news stories are presented here.
Sir Nigealot to the rescue!
Fear not Broadbag, your brave prince is here.
Thou will not have to answer the hard questions. ;P
I think these athletes are dropping because of the vaccine’
Any worthy newshound would turn that into the basis of an investigation, not worthless speculation based on a random hunch.
Bodger, what if they’re dropping because of covid? Most sports teams have had staff and members test positive in the weeks and months before these players’ collapse.
They had covid and these are the side effects?
‘Thou will not have to answer the hard questions. ;P’
Neither will you, apparently.
@Micko So let’s say ”yes” and ”yes” to your questions, it doesn’t excuse the quality of the posting on the issue on this website, it’s tantamount to ”they lie so we can lie”, except I’m pretty sure I’ve been lied to far more often on Broadsheet in recent months than from anywhere else and some of those other lies may have been honest mistakes, whereas that excuse is no longer valid for Broadsheet.
And don’t fret about being called to account by Nigel, Micko, I’m sure SOQ or one of the others will be along to high five you in a minute.
Cept, Broadsheet isn’t professional journalism is it?
Bodger has literally said the “HE BELIEVES” these have been caused by the vaccine.
That’s his opinion. And as they say “everyone has one.”
I also happen to disagree with him, but you can’t call for people to be silenced coz you don’t like their opinion.
That’s a bit fash
‘They had covid and these are the side effects?’
If only the people responsible for posting these stories would also include any relevant details like that. Must be most frustrating for you to have to ask about them in the comments.
It was a question for Daisy in reply to her comment. Cool it on the obnoxiousness.
+1
We can all be self pleasurers without being disagreeable as well
‘Cept, Broadsheet isn’t professional journalism is it?’
Cop out.
‘That’s his opinion. And as they say “everyone has one.”’
Cop out.
‘I also happen to disagree with him, but you can’t call for people to be silenced coz you don’t like their opinion. ‘
How useful is it that we’re all forming laypersons’ opinions based on fragments of stories carefully framed to suggest a particular slant, rather than working off the actual available facts and expert opinions? Your disagreement (and mine) is worthless. Opinions don’t matter more than facts. Bodger is posting heavily slanted poorly-sourced stories for the people who agree with him, and this is the alternative to the mainstream narrative?
There will be more of these deaths and you will eventually run out of insults.
‘It was a question for Daisy in reply to her comment.’
Seems like the wrong person to go to for background on this story but ok.
@Micko: It’s no longer ”journalism” in any form whatsoever, which is sad as it used to be pretty damn good at it.
I haven’t called for anyone to be ‘silenced’ so you can f-off with your ”fash” guff, I’m calling out the blatant lies on here, why you’re trying to defend them is your own business.
Broadbag. I think you’re angry because you know something is wrong. It’s not normal these people dropping like this.
‘blatant lies’
Why do think they are collapsing?
“Cop out.’
So if it’s not Bodgers opinion – what is it then?
Broadbag, it’s just another man’s opinion.
Chill man. You’re free to disagree
You mean you haven’t “DoNe De ReSeArCh” on covid after effects Bodger?
There’s a surprise /sarcasm.
I asked did you believe they are dying from the side effects of covid?
‘So if it’s not Bodgers opinion – what is it then?’
That’s not what ‘cop out’ means. Of course it’s his opinion. But he’s a front page poster of a popular news-site visited daily by lots of people. He can be challenged for the sloppy and misleading way he presents stories in order to reflect his opinions.
‘You’re free to disagree’
Yes. That’s literally what we’re doing.
Grow up you big baby.
The absolute state of you.
You are the clown Prince of Broadsheet. An unedifying, stupendous, self-proclaimed, disposable bag of
And yet you keep coming back!
‘There will be more of these deaths and you will eventually run out of insults.’
But will you acquire or present any factual basis for the belief that they’re vaccine-related?
Why do think they are dropping?
” He can be challenged”
You think he’s not challenged Nigel? What the hell is this then? Even I’ve challenged him on this topic.
Challenge away… but, look at all the people on all these types of threads calling for BS to be shut down – that’s calling for censorship.
People don’t like to think about this stuff. Only the mainstream narrative must exist.
+ Micko
You are a complete idiot, on many topics in my opinion, but you are our idiot.
And here’s the thing instead of attacking you I love you very much
It’s a pandemic. There’s a virus sweeping the world that’s affecting millions, including athletes. It’s churlish, not to mention really stupi,d to think athletes are all dropping because of TeH VaCcInE!!1!! only and not covid.
Y’ou think he’s not challenged Nigel?’
No, I said we’re literally challenging him right now, hello?
‘Even I’ve challenged him on this topic.’
I hate to tell you, you put way more energy into challenging the people challenging him.
‘but, look at all the people on all these types of threads calling for BS to be shut down’
What, an occasional one-off commenter doing a drive-by? I get told to shut up and buzz off more often.
‘Only the mainstream narrative must exist.’
This is not an alternative. It’s misinformation.
‘Why do think they are dropping?’
Unlike yourself I’d hate to speculate without the relevant information.
“This is not an alternative. It’s misinformation.”
That’s YOUR opinion…
You’ve pretty much said it’s yours, too.
You sure know how to get them aerated Micko.
No sign of the flu so far this year. What are the signs of flu? Same as Covid?
Yea.
Micko is sound.
What’s your get out card?
And all without a single bit of name calling eh Gigz. ;)
Take heed of that 1212
If you can’t debate without insults – then you’ve lost already.
I agree, Micko.
However, sometimes, you’ve just have to call a spade a spade.
*Not in this instance, obviously.
*you, not you’ve☺
@Micko ”You’re free to disagree” … at which point I’ll call you a facist, because you know, that’s the sign of someone who debates things calmly and with maximum ”chill”.
@Bodger ”why do you think they’re collapsing?”
Various reasons, some could be related to vaccines, it’s a possibility, but posting various cases where causes are unknown but hinting it’s due to vaccines is disingenuous.
I’ll ask you again, what do you make of Kimmich’s lung damage from contracting Covid?
“It’s a possibility.” Cool it with the conspiracy theories, Broadbag.
@Bodger – What are your thoughts on unvaccinated Joshua Kimmich’s lung damage due to Covid?
Love it. He did his own research.
Maybe it was something to do with the widely reported on concussion issue that is prevalent in the American football sport…
How smart of BS to know the medical issues of a particular death from news reports. Tell me again why we need coroners?
You need to be told twice?
Just a quick google and one source says it’s complications from a 2019 crash he was in…
Google’s in on teh conspiracy!!!
Yes, Google is part of the problem. All big tech are aligned with finance.
Would you ever stop Daisy, Your sources are great aren’t they? https://www.broadsheet.ie/2021/07/01/one-they-made-earlier/#comment-2326972
Would you ever stop Daisy, Your sources are great aren’t they? https://www.broadsheet.ie/2021/07/01/one-they-made-earlier/#comment-2326972
Brucey boy.
Still expending your Giggidy goo all over your beloved Brucie? How long did it take you to find that comment from (checks notes) July… or do you have it bookmarked? Either way, that’s beyond sad.
Scarlet for your ma for having you.
Your beloved Brucey, Daisy. After all, you were the one that quoted him (tee hee) to back up your, em, ‘truths’.
Terrible that the only come back you have is that when someone can call you out on it, they are ‘beyond sad’ And then the usual run-away comment… ‘scarlet for yer ma’.
The sad thing about it is that it is you who quoted him, whose methods of conclusion are the exact same as Ivor Cummins. Oh the shame Daisy. Tsk tsk.
I quoted him once and, thanks to you searching for it, I know it was several months ago. You’ve since been obsessed with him practically on a daily basis since. Of the two of us, he’s most definitely your beloved. If I put a quote from a rock climber or hill walker will that get you obsessing over them… And possibly get you out of that bizarre, obsessive cycle you’ve gotten yourself stuck in?
At this stage, Broadsheet should really just become a full-on Flat Earth conspiracy theory website.
…ah here…Bodger was a flat earther long before the Covid bandwagons trundled into town…
Trying to wake you up since 2010. Instead you got woke. Not the same thing. Not the same thing at all. *stares out of window*
Best reply ever
That made me think of the semantic meaning of the word ‘woke’ – it should be ‘awake’ shouldn’t it.? ‘Woke’ as in ‘I just woke up’ – suggests you’re still on the verge of slumber. Very fitting.
How did you get yourself to the point where ‘woke’ is the opposite of ‘athletes are dying of the vaccine despite the complete lack of evidence?’
Zinger! What a great comment!
some people die. millions have their lives saved. ill take the odds. bodgers constant attempts to demonise the vaccine don’t change the results.
What are the true odds however?
Does anybody really know for sure Doc?
I’ve checked my own and my kids’ risk status % and it’s tiny. Granted, it’s tinier if I had a vaccine, but they’re the odds I’m looking at.
More chance of nabbing the Lotto jackpot….;-)
dunno what ur angle is here, but ive no problem with people choosing to not take a vaccine. perfectly understandable. I do however, personally think that the more people to get it the better. but I don’t shame and shun people who don’t want to. my problem is bodger, constantly putting up every little thing he finds to try put people off getting it. he can make his decision, for him, but he has access to a public news source here.. and he uses it to constantly deter people from vaccines. I have a problem with that. he talks about freedom of choice, but he’s trying to skew peoples choices, and there’s no way he’s not.
Bodger, Doctor Fart has some serious questions he wants answered. Don’t keep Dr Fart waiting…
Lol
Thinking the same
Is “medical issue” a new euphuism for cocaine overdose?
This guy was retired so I’m not even sure what wildly wrong point you’re trying to make.
I wouldn’t worry about it, Tom.
KTLA in Los Angeles are reporting medical complications related to injuries in 2019 car accident but doesn’t seem to be confirmed. It unwise to speculate on the cause of a man’s death.
The telegraph have reported Siobhan Cattigan’s death was not covid related and Marvin Morgan had cavernoma
but sure keep speculating wildly.
Surely everyone dies of a medical issue?
Really?
I’d look to concussion before I’d look to anything else, but hey.
But hey, you’re not an obsessive antivaxx, conspiracy freak.
I’m working my way through The Very Best of Jazz Divas- how about you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlTAM8AIy-s
Excellent been working through that as well
This is what’s known as Fake Outrage. Just itching for an excuse to bash Broadsheet. Who appointed Bean Machine as the spokesman for the family?
The fake vaccines really have it all, highly toxic & medically useless. Injecting that muck into your citizens, never mind your children, is medically impossible to justify, the act of psychopaths.
Not to suggest Martin & Varadker are psychopaths, they’re The Two Stooges, the worst leaders any country has ever had, their craven surrender to this farcical Pandemic narrative will be their legacy & their names will be dirt until they’re forgotten.
Sportspeople are dying in unprecedented numbers, all the 100 or so conditions associated with “vaccine damage”, many of them illnesses that previously didn’t even exist, are through the roof but the Elites want you to line up at the Jabbatoir, terrified of living long enough to die from Covid, clinging to an infantile conviction that your health is of the utmost importance to the Government & their Elite overlords.
For once, a well qualified medical professional, clearly stating that the entire plandemic has been overplayed and fear used as a tool of coercion.
Which should lead an enquiring mind to the question, why are the worlds governments doing this with such gusto in a coordinated manner?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/covid-19-pandemic-fear-manufactured-authorities-yale-epidemiologist