HSE covid advice in Polish

This afternoon.

KN writes:

On December 3,  the Irish Times published an article on Low vaccine uptake among Central and Eastern European communities, stating:

‘The uptake among eastern Europeans living here is much lower, with data compiled by the ESRI indicating that the vaccine take up among people from eastern Europe resident in Ireland is between 56 and 66 per cent, indicating that between almost a half and one third remain unvaccinated.

‘…Meanwhile, the vaccination record of immigrants from other parts of the world is 79-89 per cent – lower than the native population, but far, far higher than those from eastern European countries.’

Last Saturday, in the same paper, Fintan O’Toole wrote:

‘There are, crudely, three kinds of “anti-vaxxers”. In ascending order of purposeful malignity, they are the egoists, the paranoiacs and the fascists.’

I was wondering which category our East European brothers and sisters, many of whose parents lived under totalitarianism, fall under?’

Anyone?

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37 thoughts on “A Minority

      1. ce

        hahahaha – dr. Reiner “thanks for the money for the class action” Füllmich

        … Poland was going off the deep end long before Covid, not surprised he’s getting an airing there…

        Serious irony about the whole Nuremburg 2.0 happening in Poland, when now it’s illegal in Poland to say that Polish officials and some Polish people (lots of amazing Polish resistance in Poland and outside Poland too) might not have been all happy-shiney-unicorn-friendly-rainbows to the large number of Polish Jews who otherwise magically disappeared sometime between 1939-45… what could it have been…

        1. Cui Bono?

          How much have Pfizer, Moderna, Gates, Fauci, Rockerfellers, Rothschilds, the shareholders of Vanguard, BlackRock etc. made again?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

          1. Cui Bono?

            In fairness Gates did tell everyone in 2019 that 2020s best investment opportunity would be vaccines. He’s made nearly 1 billion USD with his BioNTech shares he bought in 2019 and that’s just one of his investments.

        2. SOQ

          Amazing how anyone who goes against the Pharma narrative immediately has the motives questioned, in defence of an industry with the largest criminal fines in US history, who now tried to hide their vaccine details for FIFTY FIVE years.

          As for Poland, they are very familiar with both communism and fascism, which is the real reason why there is such scepticism about this whole totalitarian carryon.

          It is not Nuremburg 2.0, it is an investigation by the Polish House of Representatives’ Investigation Committee, but its findings may add weight to the argument for such.

          1. ce

            “It is not Nuremburg 2.0, it is an investigation by the Polish House of Representatives’ Investigation Committee, but its findings may add weight to the argument for such.” … it’s findings will add nothing to the world other than more madness… looking forward to the youtube videos…

          2. SOQ

            And you know this how? The expert submissions took over a year to collate and no legal arguments have even been made as yet.

      2. Bitnboxy

        The current Polish government no fan of your sort SOQ. Certain cuddly regional assemblies declared themselves LGBT-free zones with only one current hold out, most folding when EU funds dried-up. Funny how the Nazis used to declare certain parts of the Third Reich Germany “Juden Frei” after each purge and deportation. Of course, that’s different.

        1. SOQ

          And not one of you bothered your backsides listening to what was said eh? All of a sudden history becomes so important when it doesn’t suit the narrative. Pathetic.

          1. Bitnboxy

            You mean my comment doesn’t suit your own narrative SOQ. Lol.

            Part of me has always wondered why you are so keen to row in behind those who despise your own nature – every far right crook and charlatan gets a veritable thumbs up from you even though you know they’d dissociate themselves from you in a heartbeat. I believe this is deliberate – a type of jealousy – you had it likely difficult as a younger gay man and deep down resent how easy and freer today’s younger folks have it. And some part of you craves a roll back of rights. Now, that’s pathetic.

          2. SOQ

            You don’t get it do you? This is the biggest con of our lifetimes and all you- an others- can see is schoolyard left / right politics. As I said- pathetic.

  1. ce

    A response to SOQ’s deleted comment about dr. Reiner “thanks for the money for the class action” Füllmich tuning up in the Polish Parliament…

    hahahaha – dr. Reiner “thanks for the money for the class action” Füllmich

    … Poland was going off the deep end long before Covid, not surprised he’s getting an airing there…

    Serious irony about the whole Nuremburg 2.0 happening in Poland, when now it’s illegal in Poland to say that Polish officials and some Polish people (lots of amazing Polish resistance in Poland and outside Poland too) might not have been all happy-shiney-unicorn-friendly-rainbows to the large number of Polish Jews who otherwise magically disappeared sometime between 1939-45… what could it have been…

    1. Bitnboxy

      +1 Indeed, the official policy of the current crazy far-right Polish governent is to pretend no Poles collaborated in the extermination of Polish Jews and attempt to brainwash children with their crackpot version of history. Of course there were very many Poles happy to aid and abet the Nazis as there were very many Poles who fought hard and gave up their lives in the resistance.

    1. ce

      +1000

      Although you can choose blue totalitarian, red totalitarian, or green totalitarian… it’s a free tototalitariate…

    2. SOQ

      Poland is becoming increasingly nationalistic yes- a lot of which is driven by the church- but that in turn makes them anti globalist which is why you are seeing such a push back against the vaccines.

  2. Gavin

    ‘There are, crudely, three kinds of “anti-vaxxers”. In ascending order of purposeful malignity, they are the egoists, the paranoiacs and the fascists.’ When you have to resort to name calling and childish simplifications you’ve given up any type of journalistic integrity.

      1. Chris

        The 60000 medical scientists and health care professionals, that signed the Great Barrington agreement in opposition to mass vaccination. What category would you place them in?

          1. f_lawless

            Go to the “Signatures’ section of their website:

            Medical & Public Health Scientists- 15,263
            Medical practitioners- 45,033

            Signatories are asked to provide their credentials and affiliation and receive the following message after submitting:

            “Thank you for confirming your email

            Your signature has been recorded but will not be published.
            The list of names is being filtered and vetted. Obvious fakes are removed and those email addresses added to the filter.

            Thank you for your support and patience.”

            https://gbdeclaration.org/thank-you-confirmed/

      2. Gavin

        Clearly, he’s not correct, it’s just not that simple, there are those who are vaccinated but don’t agree with mandating vaccines, or maybe its just endless boosters or COVID passes that serve no purpose, or maybe its the demonizing of a tiny section of society because they won’t conform, and many other combinations of the arguments. But for some, it’s easier and more reassuring to call people names and demonize them, as actually using some empathy and possibly considering they might not be right on all the points is just too much for them.

  3. Kdoc

    “I was wondering which category our East European brothers and sisters, many of whose parents lived under totalitarianism, fall under?”
    The paranoiacs: they tend to distrust the messages they receive..

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