64 thoughts on “The Visitors”

  3. Nigel

    Broadhseet’s oft-praised coverage of the pandemic extends to only featuring healthcare workers when there are training mannequis in the background.

    2. Micko

      If only families could get in

      A pals brother has been in hospital since early Sept (bike crash) and hasn’t been able to have any visitors.

      1. Haroo

        Oh Tom, you are like me. A fool. Buckle up my friend, you are about to go speeding into the Twilight Zone in the Ford Delusion.

        You are about to start arguing with someone based on their suspicions with no evidence to back it up. How they are making sense of all this.

        I will I am assuming Chris is going to spout a load of unsubstantiated twaddle and that is perhaps unfair. I have just seen it too many times here so I am prejudging which isn’t right. Prove me wrong Chris.

        1. SOQ

          Empirical evidence is in short supply all round I think you will find. The Corvid Church may talk about science but only to demand it is settled and should never be questioned ever again.

          1. Haroo

            So the scientific method is redundant yes? That claims and suppositions are free from logic, theoretical soundness and substantiated by empirical evidence.

            Distrust the science. Any old claim is as valid as any other?

            Yeah…

          2. Nigel

            SOQ: ‘The Corvid Church may talk about science but only to demand it is settled and should never be questioned ever again.’

            Science: The vaccines aren’t as effective as we hoped against delta and we don’t know how this new variant will shape up.

            SOQ: Why can’t they make up their minds? Are they LYING?

          3. SOQ

            Science is never settled- it is a journey, not a destination and there should always be people ready to challenge what is already accepted.

            Forget about the hit pieces and ask yourself this- who do you trust most? A group who are clearly in Pharma’s pocket or a group who have risked everything to speak their truth?

            Don’t you find it peculiar that two years later there is STILL no early intervention protocols in place? I do- especially when there is a long list of credible scientists and medics who are adamant that those protocols save lives.

            Any public official who places private profit over public health is guilty of malfeasance- it really is that simple.

          4. Nigel

            ‘A group who are clearly in Pharma’s pocket or a group who have risked everything to speak their truth?’

            We know there’s fame to be had and money to be made in populist contrarianism, so it’s not either/or.

            ‘Don’t you find it peculiar that two years later there is STILL no early intervention protocols in place’

            No. I take you mean targeted antivirals. As far as I can tell, they’re quite difficult to make, but they seem to be finally on their way.

            ‘Any public official who places private profit over public health is guilty of malfeasance- it really is that simple.’

            Good. Then you support lockdowns, restrictions and social distancing.

          5. SOQ

            No you are wrong- there are scientists and doctors who have lost everything including from the disgusting witch hunts here is Ireland. To suggest they have an ulterior motive is at best, disingenuous.

            “As far a you can tell”- what arrogance. You know better than professors like Peter McCullough, Sucharit Bjakdi or Jay Bhattachary is it? Go away you absolute clown.

          6. Nigel

            ‘To suggest they have an ulterior motive is at best, disingenuous.’

            Ah yes your famous hatred of suggesting people have ulterior motives.

            ‘what arrogance’

            You literally dispensed with every scientists and doctor in the entire world you disagree with using, what, three words?

      2. Chris

        The narrative is that this is just a ‘pandemic’, and everything our media/politicians/health-bodies tell us, is for our own best interests. Anything that falls outside of this totalitarian narrative is labelled – ‘misinformation’

        The reality is one of corporate capture by central banking (headed by the Bank of International Settlements). All our institutions have become compromised. Anyone that speaks out is fired, their LinkedIn (Microsoft) account deleted etc.

        The goal is the introduction of a digital ID for all citizens, and the switch to a blockchain based currency – CBDC. At its basis the digital ID will require ‘Immunisation status’ – meaning, going forward, citizen will be required to have regular ‘vaccines’ in order to access any part of this system. From once the institutions have been captured, the citizens are next.

        All of this information comes from the NGO’s that are implementing this new system. Namely, but not only, The World Economic Forum. Howls of “conspiracy theory!” come from two types of people, firstly, people who haven’t bothered to read any of this policy, secondly – people who are on a payroll to enforce these measures.

        1. Haroo

          Ah.

          Still doesn’t mean I was right to prejudge.

          Tom, do you want to save yourself an hour? Don’t engage. No proof will come. Just twaddle based on feelings, suspicions and unsubstantiated connections. All centred around assumed intentions of various actors. No actual proof. It is actually quite difficult to disprove something not based on fact: for instance I could say I just jumped out the window and flew. No one saw me. Yes it may be impossible going on the basis of human anatomy but I did. I know I did. Prove me wrong.

          But of course, it is not your job to prove me wrong. It is my job to prove my fantastical claims. Which I can’t.

          Nor can Chris.

          2. Haroo

            You made several claims about the supposed nefarious intents of several actors. None of those links proof any of that.

            None.

            Just because you can provide a link about the Great Reset does not mean it is what you claim.

          3. Haroo

            Look, I give Tom advice not to engage and what do I end up doing.

            I refer to my original reply. I am a fool.

          3. Chris

            The narrative in this case is a construct, one that doesn’t allow any criticism. The link I shared above -ThreadsIrish, connect various individuals to NGOs using publicly available information. For doing so, they were banned from Twitter.

            Reality is what it is. Solipsistic explanations seek to confine it to that which is experienced by an individual. These are not true, it is a shared understanding of the world. A pseudo-reality is one that seeks to create a shared sense of a false ‘reality’ ie ‘the narrative’.

          4. Tom J

            @ Chris, the narrative is the story that you may tell a child at bedtime. The reality is what’s really going on. Like a virus of which people are dying. Most of the people who have died were not vaccinated, so you can’t blame the vaccines. But you would rather tell everyone it’s the vaccines that is the cause of Covid deaths. So you can post what you like, because most people know what’s going on.

          5. Chris

            A narrative doesn’t have to be fictional. Also, your assertion that ‘Covid’ killed those people is, when looking at the evidence, suspect. Median age of death is 82. 85% had underlying conditions. 70% of deaths were over 70 years of age.

            There are people that could have been saved with early treatment that weren’t. DNR orders for people with special needs. Midazolam overdoses. Patients not given food/water. All to inflate numbers and create panic. Murders in other words.

          6. Tom J

            @ Chris, you talk about median age as if it was ok that the old people died, sure what does it matter to you. Some of them may have been unwell, but if they hadn’t caught Covid 19, they would still be alive today. So spare me your rhetoric that they didn’t die of Covid.

          7. Chris

            It isn’t a case of them ‘not mattering’. As we age, our immune systems do as well. They become less effective. It’s just part of life, Tom – as sad as it is. Have you not heard of pneumonia being described as an ‘old mans friend’?

            We all depart this mortal coil, some sooner than others. But while we are here we have an onus on truth & care for each other, and we should hold those to account that care for neither.

          8. Tom J

            You made a bold statement of how people were murdered and left to die with no food or water because they wanted to boost the numbers. That’s a big statement to be making. Now if you have this evidence then it needs to be brought forward for investigating. If you don’t have evidence then stop talking nonsense.
            Yes I have heard of pneumonia and it’s not just men who get it, so it wouldn’t be anyone’s friend.. And regarding the immune system, your immune system may get weak as you get older and if you catch Covid or any other respiratory disease. Well what can I say.

          9. Nigel

            ‘Murders in other words.’

            Wow, they persuaded a lot of people to be murderers and not tell anyone else about it.

          10. Chris

            But they have told other people about it. And I’m one that has bared witness. Your psychopathic instance that this is ‘all normal’ is something you’ll have to bear.

          13. Chris

            They are individuals that work in those environments. That related their experience, both in person (a friend) and online (others).

          14. Tom J

            I work in one of those environments and I can tell you that no one was left with no food or water. These people you claim to know, if they witnessed such things and stood idly by and done nothing. Then shame on them.

    2. Nigel

      Yes, it’s stuff like this, a few mannequins in the background of a health-care worker interview, that drive the revelatory nature of your and Bodger’s narratives. Spotting mannequins in the background of a shot like this is literally your idea of research. That and ‘symboilsm.’

      1. Haroo

        But he is clever enough not to say it outright. This may just be humour and he is letting others draw their own conclusions. But of course we know many on here love to make spurious connections or false cause and effect relationships between events. He loves to feed those active imaginations.

        She does say “we will be burned out before we qualify” implying she is in training. You would expect a trainee doctor or nurse to use mannequins.

        I will assume Qanon was trying to be funny and not throwing out his bait into those murky waters.

        1. Nigel

          He’s pretty explicit, if short on detail, in the comments sometimes. Perhaps he’ll pop in here and say something infuriatingly gnomic and indefensible here, too.

          2. Chris

            They use medical anatomical models in college, live patients in hospitals. No mice to best of my knowledge.

          3. Chris

            Trainee doctors also use cadavers – these are usually people from religious orders that donate their bodies to science on death. Maybe we’ll see some of those pop up in the propaganda too.

  6. Hinson’s choice

    We are all tired
    Some of us have no jobs
    Some of us are fearing our businesses are now screwed
    Many of us have burnt out and are suicidal but the hero’s get well paid unlike us

    We are all in it together and we are the unsung

    1. SOQ

      For sure- the one thing you can be absolutely certain of is that the people making and supporting these decisions have not had their income disrupted in the slightest.

      If anything- they are probably better off.

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