79 thoughts on “Sunday’s Papers

  1. M

    That Daily Star front page is fascinating..

    “The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.” Benjamin Disraeli.

    1. Cui Bono?

      The whole “lizard people” thing is disinformation put out by disinfo agents and shills like David Icke to mislead truth seekers and make them sound crazy so that the average person will simply dismiss these crazy theories.

      In reality it’s just greedy trillionaire families that rule the world – the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Du Ponts, Morgans etc. along with the major shareholders of Vanguard, BlackRock etc. These are the ones in power and not elected politicians and this is what Benjamin Disraeli was saying. It’s not even Bill Gates or Elon Musk – they would be nothing without the investment from the Rothschilds and Rockefellers etc.

        1. Cui Bono?

          They own the monetary system that we use where they print money out of thin air and charge us interest on it. That’s how they became the wealthiest families in the world. They have also bought major share holdings in every major company in the world so they can influence and shape these businesses – even the Chinese and Russian banks and media – everything. The also own land, resources etc. everything.

      1. Nigel

        ‘Rich people have way too much money and power’ is not a crazy conspiracy theory. ‘Rich people somehow persuaded a cuddly sports presenter to turn himslef into a living punchline to discredit Cui Bono’ is.

        1. Cui Bono?

          David Icke and Alex Jones are 2 of the most obvious controlled opposition agents in the world. It’s a classic strategy used for centuries and has many forms and has evolved over the years.

          1. Nigel

            There’s nothing ‘obvious’ about them being ‘controlled opposition.’ Icke seems genuinely deluded, Jones is a piece of crap who pushes consipracy theories for money and fame, I’m glad the Sandy Hook parents took him to the cleaners. It’s typical of your convoluted self-obsessed thinking that it’s not enough to simply point out what they actually are, which is discrediting enough, there has to be a conspiracy involved to make you look bad.

          2. Cui Bono?

            It’s the opposite of “convoluted self-obsessed thinking” – it’s open minded and thinking of the bigger picture that effects everyone. I look at all data from all points of view.

            You are guilty of “self-obsessed thinking” because you think you’re correct on everything even though you’re uninformed because you refuse to even look at information people like myself share.

            If you don’t think that there are controlled opposition agents deliberately spreading misinformation to discredit the dissenting sides arguments then you’re simply naive.

          3. Nigel

            I don’t think it gets more convoluted or self-obsessed to proclaim that awful people are paid to be awful to make you look bad. There’s a kind of profound naivety in pointing at anything you don’t like and proclaiming it part of a plot against you.

    2. George

      “The study of 2,000 Britons, by ToppCasinoBonus.com, found that millennials were the age group most likely to believe that the world is controlled by alien lizards.”

      I think they were the age group most likely to be taking the piss out of the person asking the question. ToppCasinoBonus aren’t well know for their high quality research.

  2. Gabby

    A mystery fire in a Molesworth Street masonic hall and soon after a mystery fire in the South African parliament buildings. The only apparent connection between the two incidents is a sense of mystery. Scope for the imagination of novelists.

      1. Nigel

        ‘Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..’

        It would help my case if you looked at recent and current events in good faith and realised that this is exactly the way things are trending. It would also help if there were more responsible reporting which more accurately presented these predictions as ranges from best-case to worst-case along different timelines if certain conditions occur. What part of the ‘the climate is getting more chaotic’ do you not understand? It’s getting more and more difficult to predict, because it’s getting more and more chaotic.

        1. GiggidyGoo

          So the UK is like Siberia then?

          That report says
          “ By 2020 ‘catastrophic’ shortages of water and energy supply will become increasingly harder to overcome, plunging the planet into war.”

          The article states “ A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.”

          2020 has come and gone. As I say, fear-mongering does your case little service.

          1. Nigel

            Well it’s a good thing I never fear-monger, then. What do you want me to do, go over to the Pentagon of twenty years ago and tell them to tone it down a bit?

          2. TenPin Terry

            A bit like those scare-mongering stories about Brexit-related food shortages at Christmas in the UK which you’ve been posting all year from your security guard Portakabin and which never happened.
            In your case not so much Project Fear but more Operation Onanist.

          3. Nigel

            Plus, you are again missing the point that these are scenarios, not predictions, made in the context of an administration that was denying that climate change existed at all.

          4. Nigel

            ‘A bit like those scare-mongering stories about Brexit-related food shortages at Christmas in the UK which you’ve been posting all year’

            I haven’t posted a single story about Brexit-related food shortages in the UK at Christmas. You must be confusing me with newspapers reporting actual food shortages and assorted other Brexit-related farces during the year.

          5. TenPin Terry

            Relax Nigel – the post was not aimed at you.
            You’re getting paranoid.
            Again.
            No food or drink shortages anywhere in the UK this Christmas.In fact there was a surfeit of sumptuous delights on offer – they couldn’t give the turkeys away in my local Sainsburys.
            And plenty of drink all round which you didn’t have to flop back in pubs that shut at 8pm.
            Project Fear hid its head in shame.
            Again.

          6. Nigel

            I just assumed you were playing word-association with Brexit.

            Love the celebration of Brexit acheiving the amazing low bar of no-food-shortages-at-this-particular-time.

          7. TenPin Terry

            That low bar wasn’t set by Brexiteers but by the desperate Remain crowd who couldn’t take their whupping.
            Most sensible folk recognised the increasingly hysterical tone of people like you desperately hoping for failure.
            Remember those 500,000 jobs that were going to be lost ( quite the reverse, with even more jobs than that added since the referendum ) the Brexodus of jobs from the City, the logjam of lorries in the Kent stack, the fuel shortages, the fruit and veg rotting in the fields …I could go on.
            Stick to your climate change doom-mongering Private Frazer because your Brexit predictions have gone all Mystic Meg.

          8. Nigel

            No, Brexiteers set a high bar of sunlit uplands and free trade and no red tape and passports-of-a-certain colour. But, sure, they managed to keep some food on the shelves at Christmas. A triumph of mediocrity.

          9. TenPin Terry

            Good luck with the new German government’s proposals to advance along the path of developing the EU into a federal superstate.
            With a unified tax rate to pay for it.
            Watch how the EU will have your backs then.
            It’s be great for the lolz to see how many referendums it takes before Ireland caves in.
            Again.
            Heh,heh,heh.

          10. Nigel

            Wow, yeah, thanks, your sincere concerns are greatly apreciated, and I hope Brexit turns into less of an authoritatian kleptocratic hellscape for the UK! Ho ho ho!

          11. GiggidyGoo

            Shortages – well into 2023. Guffaw is correct.
            Alcohol and Footie. That’s about the height of it for you. ROFL!

  3. Johnny

    …it’s like trying catch a falling knife,how many this Jan/Feb my return flight was half empty.

    ‘International business travelers and tourists coming to the city, who spend much more than domestic visitors do, peaked at 13.5 million in 2019, plunged to a mere 2.4 million in 2020 -mostly in January and February’

    Manhattan is a ghost town,we had two leases expire that were not renewed,despite 6 months of free rent offers,the space was hip and ‘loft’ ,it had awful ventilation,bad light and a persistent vermin problem,the elevators in Ballymun were more reliable.Today,we can get into a Class A building,that was Class C for what it was costing us,all I know about hotels is that they empty.

    “ Of the city’s total 700 hotels pre-pandemic, about 250 either closed or were converted to homeless shelters.

    Average occupancy fell from over 80% in 2019 to 33% early this year (it has since upticked to 45%, Dandapani said). By comparison, occupancy never fell below 60% during the earlier crises of 9/11 and the 2008 Wall Street crash.

    Room rates have fallen 60% since 2019. A further looming shadow over the business is a flood of new rooms — possibly more than 18,000 — in projects that were started prior to 2020 and are on track to open this year‘

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/26/nycs-catastrophic-hotel-crisis-is-ending-in-5-years/

    So Fitzy how’s things with you :)

    -I mean who even ‘does’ breakfast anymore,hey want meet and watch me eat,it’s just so trashy and 1980’s.

    ‘They’re doing breakfast in a bag at the Hilton. They’re losing the personal touch. People go away to be pampered, not to be told there’s no room service.’‘

    Give me the bag any day.

    To all the FFG regulars,he’s watching,it’s an old joke that Fitzy must have Polaroids,as that level irish state patronage,can not be a coincidence,it’s so in your face.

    ……You won’t find one big hotel in Manhattan that has an owner on the floor every day, but I’m here and I’m watching……

    https://www.businesspost.ie/extra-interviews/john-fitzpatrick-interview-you-wont-find-one-big-hotel-in-manhattan-that-has-an-owner-on-the-floor-every-day-but-im-here-and-im-watching-84ab974d

    How’s the debt.
    The debt.
    Yeah.
    Oh
    That
    Paid it down,I bet ya did Fitzy.

    Tick tick,tick tick.

      1. SOQ

        America’s Front Line doctors have been advocating early intervention protocols since this corrupt Pharma scam began- protocols which are now even used here in Ireland.

        They have been watch hunted and in some cases fired for prescribing some of the safest medications available, have had pharmacists refuse to even supply such and now, even have the Biden administration withholding Monoclonal Antibodies treatments.

        I am far from gullible darlin- I have solid experience from the HIV/AIDS era of what the Pharmaceutical industry is capable of. It is no surprise to me that cheered on by naïves like yourself, Fauci et al are willing to allow people suffer and die all over again.

        1. Nigel

          That’s funny. You were literally advocating for people to die when this pandemic began and you wanted it to be allowed to run through populations unchecked. Now you side with the same people in the US who denied AIDS victims treatment, who denied that AIDS was even real – who are now undermining trust in treatments, and denying that covid is real.

          And your list of conspiracy theories that turned out to be true only works by stripping away all the various conspiracy theory elements from the initial claims that caused people to label them conspiracy theories.

          1. SOQ

            I have consistently drawn parallels between the way AIDS patients were treated back then and what is happening with CoVid-19 patients now- even some of the same actors are involved- and God help anyone who gets put onto that Reservoir muck.
            .
            Two years later and STILL no early intervention protocols in place- just go home and come back when you are turning blue. Noting whatsoever strange about that eh?

          2. Nigel

            The only lesson from the AIDS pandemic you seemed to have learned is ‘trust Reagan Republicans to do the right thing.’

            Calling it strange doesn’t make it strange. What’s strange are politically driven evangelical fads for random drugs.

          3. SOQ

            Ok so Nigel- a straight man- now feels qualified to tell someone who lost their partner to AIDS what they should have learned?

            On your bike you self-opinionated stupid idiot.

          4. Oro

            Ummm SOQ you were on here a few weeks ago saying the covid vaccine gives you AIDs. In those words. Wtf.

            I don’t know what you should have learned but I don’t think you learned anything tbh, except for how to make a personal tragedy useful for online arguments. And ‘self-appointed’? Look in the mirror bb.

          5. Nigel

            You keep bringing it up while expressing admiration for the current health policies of the people who demonised AIDS victims and denied it was even real while ranting and raving about Fauci for the same thing. You’ve been consistently wrong about covid – ‘it’s just the flu’ – from the beginning. Getting on your high horse won’t fix that.

          6. Chris

            Nigel, its you that’s been consistently wrong about, well everything. An unending stream of babble – informed by propaganda, that has been proven to be false, over and over again. Yet you persist.

          7. SOQ

            @:Oro- I said that the vaccines may give you ADE which is not the same thing and now that efficacy is potentially being measured in the negative, is entirely possible.

            As for history, that is not just personal- it is the experience of many thousands. If it leaves you uncomfortable that there is a sizable section of the gay community whom are pharma sceptics, then that is your problem, not ours.

            History will not be rewritten to suit what is now corporate sponsored leftism.

          8. Oro

            No that’s not what you said at all. You said that people that had been vaccinated were developing AIDs, you clarified that later after muddying the water a great deal as to what you were talking about. I think what you were doing was extremely cynical, by using your position to indicate to casual readers that the vaccine was giving people AIDs. And relying on peoples general ignorance about that disease to make a really disingenuous connection between the two.

            I’m not uncomfortable with certain members of the LGBT community being uncomfortable with the pharmaceutical industry, but I think you’re hugely over-estimating it, and confusing it with pragmatism rather than skepticism. You can go and look at the take up for PREP if you need any indicator.

          9. SOQ

            I mentioned the abbreviation called VAIDS which is now trending on twitter under the hast tag #WHATISVAIDS- you can go search that yourself. That is also coming from the Front Line doctors of course.

            As for pharmaceutical scepticism within the gay community- it is most definitely there, albeit it not so much with the younger.

            Unless you are one of those who preach equality on one hand while also dismissing older people’s opinions on the other?

          10. Oro

            No you said AIDs. Not surprised you can’t stand by your own commentary, illustrates just how messy it is that you won’t do so.

            Your second paragraph we’re in agreement on, you’re just vastly over-emphasizing general pharmacy skepticism as if it’s a larger trend, when this isn’t the case.

            I’m not dismissing older peoples opinions, you’re generalizing them if anything. A lot of older gay people are very thankful for the HIV/AIDs treatments that arrived after the first wave, but I wouldn’t argue that that gives a general lean to the entire community. I think you don’t get nuance / complexity.

        2. Daisy Chainsaw

          Charging $90 for each consult to prescribe horse paste. Hell of a lot of profiteering and scamming going on by those doctors, fleecing gullible idiots with “medicine” that doesn’t work.

          1. Chris

            But its been proven multiple times that Ivermectin is prescribed to people, and has been for over 40 years. Yet you continue to lie. Cope.

          2. SOQ

            You use of the term ‘horse paste’ for a Nobel Prize winning drug on the World Health Organization’s list of essential medicines, is pretty much all we need to know.

          3. Nigel

            Two comments outraged at the slandering of precious miracle-drug Ivermectin that completely avoid the fact that it’s no bloody good in treating covid.

          4. SOQ

            But that is the shill game Chris- keep repeating the lies until people assume they have some basis in fact.

            All one has to do is look at how the infection rates of Japan have flat lined since they started prescribing ivermectin but oh no- its not officially approved so that could not possibly be- despite the fact that thousands of drugs are prescribed off label every day.

          5. Nigel

            ‘keep repeating the lies’

            ‘the infection rates of Japan have flat lined since they started prescribing ivermectin ‘

            This is a lie. You keep repeating it.

            https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-079183409501

            Japan is 78% vaccinated.

            Japan tried to control the spread without lockdowns. Infections spiraled wildly. They imposed lockdowns. Infections collapsed, and they came out of lockdown in October. Their numbers have stayed low. Compliance with measures like masks and social distancing is apparently very high there. I couldn’t find a proper analysis, but whatever the reason it presumably cosnsists of multiple factors. Ivermectin was never prescribed for covid in Japan. Liar.

          6. Nigel

            Good question. Not ivermectin. Because it’s not being prescribed for covid in Japan, you liar.

            Everything about how you phrased that comment, by the way, was invidious, leading and deceptive. If not this thing that isn’t even a factor, then what? Must be thing!

          7. SOQ

            So you don’t know what Japan is doing but you are certain of what they are not doing- even though Stromectol is widely available for off label use?

            Now that is funny.

          8. Nigel

            I know that ivermectin isn’t being prescribed for covid in Japan despite your lying about it.

          9. Nigel

            ‘You have absolutely no way of knowing that’

            If I have no way of knowing that, and you have no way of knowing that, since that link offers no actual proof that ivermectin is being used for covid in Japan, then how can you possibly have grounds for your bare-faced claim that it is responsible for the low infection rate in Japan? Yet you made your assertion as if it was proven fact. Ie you lied.

            Edit – feck you for making me look at that crap then deleting it.

          10. Nigel

            Oh, it’s back up. I love how they didn’t QUOTE the statement of the Tokyo Chairman guy, they EXPLAINED it, when all he actually said was it should be looked into.

          1. Fearganainm

            O Rose thou art sick. 
            The invisible worm, 
            That flies in the night 
            In the howling storm: 

            Has found out thy bed
            Of crimson joy:
            And his dark secret love
            Does thy life destroy.

            Cease now, thine lamenting,
            Desist from cries and hollers
            We can sell you Ivermectin
            Two tubes tree fiddy dollars

    1. Micko

      Good thing shops are enforcing masks though isn’t it.

      Otherwise, we could be at 20 thousand cases a day.

      Oh…

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