Via Forbes:

Some of the Covid-19 vaccines currently in development could increase the risk of acquiring HIV, warned a group of researchers in the The Lancet medical journal Monday, potentially leading to an increase in infections as vaccines are rolled out to vulnerable populations around the world.

The authors said they went public because Ad5 vaccines for Covid-19 might soon be tested in populations with high HIV prevalence

Researchers Warn Some Covid-19 Vaccines Could Increase Risk Of HIV Infection (Forbes, October 2020)

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82 thoughts on “Vaccine Equity”

    1. Frank

      Yeah BS!
      This ‘news is from ‘the past’. Nothing from ‘the past’ is real.
      Crikey O’Reilly

      1. AssPants

        Unless of course you said something 10+ years ago and some delicate millennial wants you cancelled because they don’t agree with a differing opinion…… then everything is real…..

      2. K.Cavan

        C’mon, Frank, it’s the best Cian could come up with & anyway, he wrote that 21mins before your response, so it’s in the past & doesn’t count.

    2. Dougall

      I suppose it’s a case of needles used several times like junkies do
      But in all honesty come on
      Next the antivaxers will be saying they are trying to tamper with our bodily juices like doctor strangelove
      Ever see a commie drinking tap water?

  2. Chris

    “The authors said they went public because Ad5 vaccines for Covid-19 might soon be tested in populations with high HIV prevalence”

    How about going public before a majority of the western world took them? Utter cretins.

  3. Rominick

    But of course “It’s all a conspiracy”.

    What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and reality?

    About 3 months!!!
    Boom

  4. Doxxy Chainsaw

    Coprophiliac McKeith who has the same degree as Ben Goldacre’s dead cat!

    Of course she’s a BS expert!

        1. Chris

          He wasn’t a fraudster, his assertion was correct. The judge should have been struck off, not Wakefield.

          4. Me so Harney

            In other words.. you haven’t a clue.. parroting tasteless rags like The Times, you’re a busted flush at this stage..

            perhaps its time for another booster

          5. Chris

            Wakefield was smart, he asserted that there was more than a causal relationship between vaccines and autism, and needed further regulatory investigation. He brought evidence to support this.

            But he came up against a freemason judge and a complicit media. The court of public option only agreed because they’re too lazy to spend a few hours looking at his claims and would rather be spoonfed their info.

          6. E'Matty

            In fact, during the case brought against Wakefield, the US government’s expert witness, Dr Andrew Zimmerman, found that there was evidence of children with pre-existing mitochondrial disorders going on to develop autism post vaccination. Basically, if they were in any way vulnerable to such disorders, the vaccine amplified the risk. Zimmerman was promptly dropped from the team involved in the case.

            I think Wakefield actually raised the link between gut problems, the vaccines and autism. Scientists now beginning to recognise just how important gastrointestinal health is to all health.

            It’s the same with all of these vaccines. Certain subgroups have genetic predisposition to adverse effects. Another example was the Pandemrix vaccine which caused narcolepsy in kids,but generally only those with what was called “The Viking gene”, which is prevalent across Scandinavia, the British Isles and Ireland.

            The important man on the telly told Daisy there’s no link between vaccines and autism and told her anyone saying there is, is a crazy stupid person. That’s all Daisy knows. What she’s told to think.

          8. Chris

            Pesky? When they put aliegence to the ‘brotherhood’ beyond the law of the land they’re downright dangerous.

    2. K.Cavan

      Gene therapy injections aren’t vaccines, Boe. It doesn’t matter how strong your belief in your fake science is, it will always be fake. Obviously, it’s going to take a while before people actually burst out laughing & start throwing stones at the fantasists still muttering about “Muh Vacksines” but it’s coming, rest assured, it’s coming.
      Well-chosen name, by the way, you’re as out of touch with reality as your near namesake, who’s wandering around confused & lost, being told what to say, while soiling his pants.

  6. alickdouglas

    Oh right, Gillian McKeith’s opinion on a badly written summary by Forbes of a letter in The Lancet in 2020. Totally rational. Any, er, data? Evidence? Even mechanism of action? There actually is some data in the public domain published since The Lancet opinion piece that suggests that there is no increased risk for HIV infection associated with the Ad5 COVID vacicne, but hey, why bother with actual data when you can just have a tweet from Gilian McKeith.

          2. K.Cavan

            Dolly cites an article in The Times (snigger!) with a headline containing the phrase “conspiracy theories” (giggle!) that’s behind the paywall (howls of derisive laughter!).
            You just couldn’t make it up, classic!

        2. Me so Harney

          lololololololollololol..

          Behind a paywall, and from 2021, says way more about Doxxy than anyone else..

          face palm

          2. Me so Harney

            lololololololololol what a fail, how typical..

            The article she responded with is from 2021 you complete and utter half wit..

            “throws head wildly back with laughter..”

            Gee, thanks for the tip, I’m not interested in reading a hit piece from a murdoch rag, I’m sure that’s your kind of thing..

          3. Chris

            Afford to subscribe? Who’d be stupid enough to pay for the propaganda they’re fed? No wait, I think you’ve already answered…

          4. Fearganainm

            You and the Brummie are the best double act since George and Lennie – you being Lennie, of course. Ask him to explain to you why him posting a link from 2021 and being responded to with a critique from the same year is so hilarious.

            Be careful with those rabbits.

          5. Me so Harney

            When all else FAILS, lololol, revert to the thing youre best at..

            BIGOTRY!!

            tell us again why you hate Brits?

          8. K.Cavan

            Imagine the kind of goon who sends The Times an email address to read badly-written propaganda from semi-literate bourgeois simpletons, trying to frame the inconsequential wedge issues of the Financial Elites as actual Human Rights concerns.
            Unluckily, for BS readers, no imagination is required.

          10. K.Cavan

            Following me…eh?
            Sticking me with the vaccine…oh-err!
            My, my what a rich fantasy life you have, Dolly.
            Freud would have a field day.
            Is that a vaccine in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

          11. Doxxy Chainsaw

            Another gaslighter!! Just as well youtube deleted your BS chat and destroyed the evidence, eh?

          12. Me So Harney

            “Another gaslighter.. ”

            Lolololololols

            This, from the grifter sourcing her “info” from gutter Murdoch publications..

            Face palm yet again..

      1. K.Cavan

        So no need to worry then, Trustin?
        These “other Adenovirus” vectors will magically erase any effects in those injected with “non-current” vaccines, right?
        Are you working on a plan to un-sink The Titanic, by any chance?

    3. alickdouglas

      Aaaaand voila, the hail of misinformation starts briskly.

      Some minor clarifications before I tune out. There are a broad range of adenoviruses, and quite a few have been evaluated as vaccine vectors; at least Ad4, Ad5, Ad7 and Ad26. They are an interesting and complex set of viruses, most developers have settled on Ad5 and Ad26 (the J&J one) as the ones most likely to provide the best results. Although some developers may use the same type (such as Ad5) the genetic sequence of the speicifc vectors is engineered extensively by the developer for a range of different reasons including to modulate their performance during manufacturing, to support their ability to incorporate ‘inserts’ (the genetic code of the pathogen they are targeting). or to improve their potential depending on route of administration (for example, intra nasal). There are lots of questions about different adeno vectors, and that’s what human trials are for. The only regulator concern that I’ve heard that covers all adenovectors is that immunisation with one Ad-vectored vaccine might make one immune to future ad-vectored vaccines. Otherwise, concerns such as that voiced by Buchbinder in The Lancet tend to be adeno-type specific; the HIV concern is restricted to Ad5 and not, for example Ad26.

      And for those who feel a need to post links to ill informed articles about mRNA vaccines in the context of adenovectors, maybe you should read a bit more.

      2. K.Cavan

        So, Adenovirus vectors could be a one-off shot? That’s nothing to worry about at all, at all.
        Are you crazy? There’s no possible revenue stream. You couldn’t even make money from shilling, sorry, selling further Adenovirus vector gene treatments to repair the damage of the first ones.
        Truly, Big Pharma, its faked trials, it’s faked peer-review system, its takeover of the entire regulatory system, its incompetence, its dishonesty, it’s attempting to take over from the Pyramid Scheme that is the Finance Industry as the biggest danger to our civilization.
        We’re gonna need bigger prisons.

    4. K.Cavan

      Ah, stop joshing, Alick, if millions of people can be force-injected with fake vaccines for a common cold virus with an insignificant IFR, based on emergency use licences supported by banning actually efficacious treatments, after fixed, faked clinical trials, using a technology that failed animal trials 30 years ago, well, data me arse.
      You’re fooling nobody.

    1. Chris

      They weren’t using those in the Netherlands, where there’s now an outbreak of new aggressive HIV cases, nor the UK where multiple outlets are running get tested campaigns.

      It might suggest that it’s more than a localized problem than those (and the Oz) jabs.

      1. U N M U T U A L

        …ah I see. The forbes piece mentioned ad5 and I figured the post was referring to the south african stories.

  9. SOQ

    Extra virulent strain of HIV discovered in the Netherlands

    https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/02/extra-virulent-strain-of-hiv-discovered-in-the-netherlands/

    No one knows if this is connected to the CoVid-19 vaccines yet, although I have seen HIV listed as an adverse event. The question is then how?

    If could be the fragment of HIV alleged to be in the vaccines or it could be some manifestation of ADE, in which case it is likely to be only a matter of time before people become susceptible to a whole range of infectious agents.

    The fact that it is being suggested at all is not good.

    2. alickdouglas

      The authors of the study in Science Magazine cited by the article state:

      “Genetic sequence analysis suggests that this variant arose in the 1990s from de novo mutation, not recombination, with increased transmissibility and an unfamiliar molecular mechanism of virulence.”

      But hey, speculate away, clearly COVID vaccines did it.

      1. SOQ

        You obviously know more about this than me alick but this new strain is cited as being more virulent meaning the progression from HIV to AIDS is faster. Another factor which will have an impact is the over all health, especially of the immune system, which is where the CoVid-19 vaccines may play a part.

        Of course it is speculation but if that Luc Montagnier quote is real- why the third jab? HIV can be transmitted with one needle or indeed having sex once so not sure why a third jab would be referenced.

        There is also the case of the Australian vaccine which left people testing (false) positive. Was it different to the other vaccines or, is there a HIV element to them all?

        1. alickdouglas

          When I was actively designing and administering clinical trials of vaccines 20 years ago, we deliberately excluded people with any form of immunosuppression from trials. We did that because we simply didn’t know how to account for the unpredictability of immune suppression, whatever it’s source, whether innate or acquired. That (rightly) led to acusations that large parts of the community were being excluded from access to potentially life saving treatments. Modern trials either specifically include immunosuppressed people, or run specific trials in immunosuppressed, with specific relevant endpoints. How should drug development deal with immunosuppression? Should drugs be launched, as they used to be, with exclusions for immunosuppressed people? Should we wait until there’s sufficient data in immunosuppressed before launch?
          The positive HIV testing for the Australian vaccine was an unforgivable piece of poor molecular design tbh. It’s not an entirely new phenomenon, early HIV vaccines also tended to cause test positivity with the relatively primitive tests of 20 years ago. It seems that the designers of the Australian vaccine either didn’t realise it would result in test positivity, or didn’t understand the massive inconvenience it would cause. Either way, huge design fail (which it should be said wouldn’t have health consequences directly, but could for example lead to health issues because of misunderstood HIV status)
          Montagnier is a smart chap and worthy of great respect, but he does enjoy stirring the pot, he always has. I don’t follow what he says very much, but I suspect context is important.

          3. Me So Harney

            Gas..

            He claims pharmaceutical companies care about immuno-comprimised people..

            Lolololololols

            Yeah, right.. That’s why they seek indemnity from liability, its really because they care so much..

      2. K.Cavan

        The people doing the genetic sequence analysis are speculating, Alick. No such analysis gives anything that could be called answers, the very best that it can deliver is informed guesses.

  10. SailorGerry

    The die is cast, the coal seem cracked….

    Whatever side of the clotshot debate you fall on, the roulette wheel is spinning and all bets are now off.

    Moving along, the climate change carbon tax issue bothers me as I really am allergic to scams and charlatans.

    The world central banks (which is a misnomer as they are actually privately held) printing money at a staggering pace bothers me, as real world inflation in Ireland from my basket of average living stuff is 30% up YoY and I will be lucky to see a 5% wage rise at best.

    Only sense I hear from Irish politicians are a small few independents, this is quite possible the only way out of this debacle as all major parties took the WEF soup.

  11. Micko

    Jeepers lads and ladies. It’s all go on this thread eh?

    I’ve no idea if any of this is true. Seems fairly tenuous to me.

    And at the same time that Dutch strain of HIV is also a bit dodge (probably a coincidence – who knows).

    All I know is, I have shed loads of friends and family who’ve taken these shots (don’t we all) and I bloody hope it’s NOT true.

    Including some of my very young 5-11 old nieces and nephews.

    So let’s can the “you’re stupid for thinking this” and the “told ya so” crap and let’s ALL bloody hope it’s wrong and that any potential future issues some of us were worried about never actually materialise.

          1. Oro

            I’m sorry I don’t see any information on your twitter link that shows that testing was reduced in ireland. Maybe I’m missing it, I’m not a healthcare professional so I’m not primed for these types of reports. I’m guessing neither are you tho ;)

          2. Oro

            I found this information from Northern Ireland about their HIV data from year end 2020. I know the vaccines had not been administered yet but it does show only a 6% drop in tests on the previous year, which isn’t a significant drop (especially considering the circumstances caused by the pandemic). I’m not suggesting it’s the exact same story in ireland but I’d say that it’s very close. I don’t buy your suggestion that testing was dropped by a significant degree sorry.

            Their positive diagnoses dropped by around the same percentage. I’ll let you think really hard about what that probably means.

            https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/sites/default/files/2021-12/HIV%20data%20tables%202021.pdf

    3. Steph Pinker

      Micko, the ‘potential future issues’ are already here especially with late cancer diagnoses.

  12. SailorGerry

    Micko, the majority of my siblings are fully jabbed / boosted and happy to be so.

    My sister is now on a heart medication for a new condition that materialised in her mid forties (recently) and my Mum, God bless her, has gone down hill rapidly after being locked in her home alone for near two years, with minimal social interactions, with the worlds most deadliest virus just outside the door.

    Laterally afraid to leave the house because of a constant barrage of misinformation from RTE and SKY; her retirement is wrecked, and I do believe the jabs have hastened her dementia. Two years ago, she was doing jigsaws / Sudoku of a high difficulty, today barely remembering my brother, thinking him a care giver from the HSE.

    I do not require empathy or sympathy, I require atonement from the orchestrators of this debacle.

    1. Micko

      That’s terrible to hear that Jerry. I lost my own mother in similar circumstances, so I know what you’re going through. Not easy.

      With regards to this thread, which as I’ve already said ( in my opinion) that the link is tenuous at best.

      But, this is what irks me. There is no need to pursue any of these tenuous links to vaccine damage. (I really hope there is none/very few), since tons of people have taken them already – there’s nothing we can do.

      That said, we already know the Covid policies and media caused an increase in missed diagnosis for illness, massive mental health issues, massive debt, violence in homes etc and generally damaged the fabric of society.

      It was clearly not worth it.

      The only people here who are still arguing we did the “right thing” are the ones who either a) did well out it with working from home and increased savings or b) are so entrenched with being correct, they would argue until the end of time (or possibly delusional)

      All this other stuff is just distraction. We need to stop this messing and focus on the pricks who fupped us all.*

      __________

      *While all the time doing what ever they wanted themselves. Golfgate, Downing St parties etc

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