NPHET members from left: Director of Health Protection Survaillance center Dr John Cuddihy, HSE Chief Clinical Officer, Dr Colm Henry, Dr Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer of the Department of Health; and Dr Ronan Glynn, Deputy Chief Medical Officer of the Department of Health
This morning.
Via Irish Times:
Two years and a month after it first met at the outset of the Covid-19 pandemic, the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) is to be disbanded.
In a letter to Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly on Thursday night following a meeting of the group earlier, chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan recommended Nphet be stood down.
Though Ministers and senior officials continue to insist the pandemic is “not over”, the move is the clearest sign yet that the public health emergency it triggered is coming to an end.
Tony Holohan recommends Nphet be stood down (Irish Times)
…well done…pity so much damage was done before you were eventually heeded…you have done the country much service…
It is not over until those criminals are brought to justice- which includes certain members of NPHET.
You know Same’Oh
That’s the sorta stuff you can’t stand over
The truth about you that you have to own, and can’t run away from
Seriously
You’re ****ed if you get doxed
Bring out yer nooses!!
And your Viking helmets….
+1, SOQ.
This doesn’t sit with the conspiracy theory narrative at all. Did they clear this with Schwarb and the WEF?
Joking aside, its good to see. All we need now is the government to get the finger out with masks and for Mehole to stop sharing his unscientific opinion on wearing them.
It’s almost as if all these things were short-term public health measures to deal with some sort of pandemic.
Almost. In reality this is what the gay communist space nazis wanted all along. It is a false flag intended to lull us into a sense of security. And the BOOM! They will have the Irish pub right where they want it and be able to destroy it once and for all.
I would like to hear the thoughts of Ematty and Cui Bono. Where is this totalitarian state? Where are the Nazis? You assured me they would not give up their powers and none of this would be temporary. You told me all these powers would be extended indefinitely and that we would have an authoritarian state. You said this was the great reset whereby they would condition us to live isolated, destroy social life (and the Irish pub) and depend on the state for welfare.
Why have all restrictions essentially been lifted? Why have Nphet disbanded themselves? Why are they pushing normality and back to how it was before? Why are we all be encouraged back to the office? Why are countries lifting travel restrictions?
Care to update your conspiracy to fit with how facts are playing out on the ground? I am sure you will reinterpret everything and reform your narrative to show how there is still some silly conspiracy based on no evidence and solely based on your wild inklings.
I wouldn’t, thanks
We all reached a consensus here yesterday that we’d like to see more cat pictures and filth.
Ah I missed that. I am a bit of a stray cat with this place. I wander in and out as it suits me.
Because NPHET and co. have got the actual data now on what, under NPHET-stoked panic, they’ve injected into the entire population, and they want off the stage pronto before public have a chance to make any associations with the latest source of the “record numbers on trolleys” (again). Now watch the hurried, fudged enquiry by “safe” questioners to clear the card of those NPHET members still in positions. It’s a move on, nothing to see here now, play.
Oh is that what it is? Not the rolling back of temporary public health measures?
This is all ‘part of the plan’, is it?
Okie dokie.
You think they had a plan? They were making it up week by week, in case you didn’t notice. A pandemic strategy would have been a welcome thing. I didn’t see much evidence of that coming from our board of pandemic experts, did you?
On that we can agree then, if not much else.
Why do you think Trudeau is putting up such a fight then Millie?
Canada is not Ireland, SOQ. I have no interest in the protests there so I don’t really care what Justin Trudeau is up to.
Have your little protest. Honk your stupid horns. Wave your little slogans and sing your silly songs.
Then fupp off home
Bring a nation’s capital to a standstill for days and weeks you deserve to get the bejesus bate outta ya.
The main reason Ireland rescinded the restrictions was because England did. Like it or not, the the two countries are very intertwined.
Why England stood down is more likely to be because Johnson was in a precarious situation and was saving his ownneck because to their credit, the English were not going to tolerate any more of it.
So the idea that Ireland operates in some sort of vacuum is simply not true- if anything it is more influenced by global forces than most.
@SOQ Funny that you dismissed a point I made last week because I mentioned Canada in relation to an Irish story…how very odd!
What point?
@SOQ I can’t remember the point, but your response was along the lines of ”the difference is 1 is in Ireland and the other is someplace completely different”.
I only remember because a few hours later you mentioned not 1, but 2 other countries in relation to the UK or somewhere and it struck me as massively hypocritical, just like your response to Millie today.
Unlike you I am not have a go but, criticising someone for dismissing a point that you can’t remember making, indicates you are arguing from an emotional rather than a logical position.
@SOQ sure go ahead, deflect, avoid, evade – you could just hold your hands up once and say, ‘oh yeah, I was wrong’ or ‘a wee bit of hypocrite’, but you know keep deflecting, deflecting, deflecting.
And how on earth can you be arguing from a ‘logical position’ if you keep contradicting yourself?
Here’s your response, for posterity, see if it rings any bells, or seems salient to your comments above:
”The difference is one is happening in Ireland while the other is somewhere else entirely.”
I am not the one criticising someone over a point you can’t remember yourself?
Please go and check.
Yeah but that’s not what it’s about at all is it? Yet again more deflection and goal post moving.
Just own your hypocrisy.
For the record, I was suggesting people who equated mask wearing with ‘child abuse’ could use similar standards when considering the kids used as pawns in Canadian trucks. Feel free to try and deflect further:
You wrote: ”The difference is one is happening in Ireland while the other is somewhere else entirely.
Whataboutery does not hide the fact that muzzling children with no scientific basis is abuse- and that coercion is assault.”
If you can’t see how your reply to Millie contradicts your previous reply to me that’s fine, but you could just be an adult and own your hypocrisy and indeed ‘whataboutery’. Instead you’ll no doubt just deflect and start a new tangent.
“Whataboutery does not hide the fact that muzzling children with no scientific basis is abuse- and that coercion is assault.”
I absolutely 100% stand behind that statement. Especially in the current situation where the lowest risk of all are forced to wear them- while everyone else are not.
There is no common sense let alone science behind it and it will take years to even recognise the harm it is doing to children.
”The difference is one is happening in Ireland while the other is somewhere else entirely.”
Is what we’re talking about, stop constantly derailing, it’s incredibly obvious and tiresome.
It’s a gradual process over the next 10 years or more. I’ve always said this. I’ve never mentioned nazis.
The digital pass system is still here for travel and being expanded upon now too. Australia, Canada and others are pushing the boundaries and the trillionaires in charge are observing and learning. They had gone as far as they could with the boosters. The silent majority were starting to question the narrative. More and more people have been copping on that they were fooled into taking an experimental vaccine that didn’t stop them from getting covid in the first place.
The IFR for covid is still extremely low and the data proves this. Most of us are not at risk to it and never were. We didn’t need a vaccine for it, only old and vulnerable did. Check your own risk here https://qcovid.org/
The agenda is still very much going ahead as planned. Just look at what the WHO are trying to get every country to sign. It’s a new Pandemic Response Plan where it will override our constitutions and we will all have to do as the WHO says. The digital pass system has been accepted, normalised in many countries and when the next flu comes along maybe in 2 years or even this winter, they will be able to role it all out again much easier than the first run. Next up will also be the fall of the USD, EUR etc. and the switch to digital currencies which can all be linked to the digital pass system.
What part of what we said is not still on the table? It’s a decade of transformation and we’re only at the beginning with serious ground made by the globalists in the past two years, ably abetted by the moronic herd animals.
I said here previously, next up potentially supply chain interruptions/collapse, electricity grid interruptions/collapse, cyber attacks or “cyber pandemic”. All very much in sight and indeed, the theatre on the eastern edge of Europe right now could provide all three.
You fools have a child-like belief that power is benign and even good. This has no basis in reality. Your naivety is the greatest threat to us all. On the plus side, those of us on our side are likely much better prepared for unforeseen events in the future than any of you, who seek parental protection from a State run by goons who care not one jot for you or your family.
There are currently 10k cases a day. Your kind was convinced to introduce orwellian authoritarian restrictions on our freedoms and rights for a fraction of this. At its worst, Covid had a 99.7% survival rate, now even closer to 100%. You bought a narrative of a terrifying virus when all it ever was, was a moderately dangerous virus that impacted almost exclusively on those already on their death beds. You were conned.
Many of you Covidians are freaking out at the prospect of normality resuming so conditioned by irrational fear you’ve been these past two year’s and you’re so delusional you see our current environment as a victory for you? The fact normality is resuming with over 10k cases a day confirms we were the ones who were right all along.
Your fear based mindset could only hold as ling as people had no first hand experience of the virus. Once they did, most recognised it for the moderate virus it always was.
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A decade?! Jaysus..
Well I’d say broadsheet will be long gone by then..
Do you reckon you’ll have finally finished your philosophy undergrad?
Ah, Haroo, if you think the lifting of mask mandates erases the last two years, you really haven’t been paying attention.
Good to see all the folks who haven’t had their livelihoods destroyed over the last two years getting on and saying how great NPHET and the government were.
Remember the madness:
9 euro meals
Queuing outside Tescos
No shoes and socks for your kids
Stand up mask on, sit down mask off – while eating
The erosion of peoples sanity (looking at the masks in cars while solo brigade)
Antigen tests are “snake oil”
Moving old folks from hospital to nursing homes with no Covid tests
Families and friends destroying their relationships
People going crazy about restrictions and who not following them
Absolutely mental predictions of deaths and cases
Guards fining people for leaving the 2k radius
Golfgate
RTEGate
Celebs and politicians doing what they want
Arresting grannies for no mask
Million euro contracts to companies that didn’t deserve them
Thousands of cancer cases missed
And extra 500K on Hospital waiting lists
and more
The lockdowns and restrictions were never worth it.
That’s not for you to decide. I would say public health was worth a certain amount of sacrifice, but that’s only my opinion.
You’ve never felt that way, about any of the public health measures as far as I can see, so you obviously feel different.
And what Public Health was improved exactly?
Despite the billions which were squandered, how much of that went to increasing hospital capacity?
How many people have or will die because of cancer and/or other conditions?
How many additional suicides or other mental health issues are brewing in children right now?
The list is endless and that is not even asking direct questions like how much of that money went to vested interests involved in PCR labs and/or Big Pharma?
Again, that’s your opinion. You have made this point before, and fair enough, it’s a valid point. You’ve also equated mask wearing in children with child abuse, which I would disagree with.
My opinion is different. I felt that some of the measures in place were there for good reason, like masks for example. But I’ll admit my bias freely. I have a high risk child, and that coloured my opinion.
I’m glad the restrictions are being rolled back, that hopefully we’ll see things return to normal or close to it. That’s all.
“I’m glad the restrictions are being rolled back, that hopefully we’ll see things return to normal or close to it.”
Well, that’s something we can all get behind sure.
Forwards not backwards
Yes I think we should all agree on that.
Its a cold metric but before the corona panic public health decisions were always based on cost to years of quality life (ie age) saved. And priorities decided as such, because in the real world hard decisions have to be made.
There are now going to be more years of life lost from missed cancer diagnoses over the next 3 years than the covid lockdowns saved. For one 50 year old who dies of preventable cancer that cancels out almost 100 people in their 80s who we gave an extra 6 months of life to thanks to the covid lockdowns.
And given the median age of death from covid in Ireland was 84, when our life expectancy is 82, almost all of our “prevented deaths” from covid only gave the people in questions months more life at best.
When the long term analysis is done the public health cost of this is going to be by far the worst bill to pay – even worse than the financial one.
So much of this is wrong.
#1 life expectancy at birth is 82. As you get older your life expectancy increases. The life expectancy of a 84 year-old is 90 – so they lost on average 6 years of life, not 6 months.
#2 Yes, there have been missed diagnoses, and missed opportunities for preventative care & surgeries postponed. These were due to Covid *not* to lockdowns. We closed pubs and schools so we could leave healthcare open. The only service that I’m aware of that was ‘locked down’ was BreastCheck – they didn’t run clinics for many months due to concerns of infection. Without lockdown the hospitals & GPs would have been hit a lot harder, for longer, and that would have cause a bigger knock-on effect for future cases.
Cian, at the peak of the Fake Pandemic (mid-February, 2021) 17% of our hospital beds were occupied by people who’d returned positive PCR tests. That’s the absolute maximum you can ascribe to Covid, yet we aren’t dealing with a 17% drop in the number of treatments, it’s far higher than that. What’s the reason for the difference? Lockdown is the answer.
As for your Life Expectancy nonsense, yes, Zaccone did not use “Average” in front of the phrase but you’re just being disingenuous if you pretend you didn’t know that’s what he meant.
It isn’t really a cold metric. A society that sacrifices it’s young to protect it’s old is seriously disturbed.
Millie, I think you’ll find it is for Micko to decide his own opinions.
“I would say public health was worth a certain amount of sacrifice”
But public health was sacrificed, that’s the point
Given that the Fake Pandemic needed a 24/7 advertising campaign to bring it into existence, it’s hardly surprising that the politicians don’t know whether it’s over or not.
It’s like wondering whether a mirage is still there.