Pity The Fuel

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This morning.

Belgorod, Russia.

Via Reuters:

The Kremlin said on Friday that a Ukrainian strike against a fuel depot in the Russian city of Belgorod did not create comfortable conditions to continue peace talks with Kyiv.

Russia accused Ukraine on Friday of attacking the depot but Ukrainian authorities did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Speaking to reporters on a conference call, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said authorities were doing everything to reorganise the fuel supply chain and avoid disruption of energy supplies in Belgorod.

Kremlin says Ukraine strike on Russian fuel depot creates awkward backdrop for talks (Reuters)

Meanehile…

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79 thoughts on “Pity The Fuel”

    2. SOQ

      Given that Russian speakers in the east of the country have been butchered by Azov Nazis for the past eight years- who exactly are the abusers?

      Or are such complicated geo political questions to be dismissed because they don’t easily fit into your simplistic analogy?

        1. SOQ

          Absolutely not- quite the opposite- but given her name calling on this site, I do see the irony of Dolly using an abuse analogy.

        2. K.Cavan

          Eight years of Ukraine setting NATO-trained & equipped Nazis on people who are ostensibly it’s own citizens is, I think you’ll find, Paul, a single issue. That doesn’t mean that it’s not the root of this problem. SOQ is pointing to a far more simplistic, puerile opinion that government & media-guided drones like Dolly & ce have been told to believe, which is “we in the West are good, everyone else, the Rest, are bad”.
          Now that is simplistic, moralistic & arrogant, it gives us licence to go around the world, telling others how to run their countries, their societies & their lives, which it seems, almost inevitably culminates in the US mounting deadly military attacks on countries which can barely defend themselves, when they dare ignore our instructions. No wonder so many countries want nuclear weapons, it’s the only way to keep The West off your back. I think the way the other seven-eights of the planet has reacted to our attempts to organise a boycott of Russia, by turning their backs on us, is a clear message that they see this as The West Vs The Rest & that Russia is part of The Rest. It’s a wake-up call.
          Will we heed it?

          1. Nigel

            ‘No wonder so many countries want nuclear weapons, it’s the only way to keep The West off your back’

            Might have kept Russia off Ukraine’s back.

          2. jonjoker

            Agreed, Nigel. But they were bought off by the West, IIRC, just in case. And today Ukraine is bereft.

          3. Nigel

            Didn’t Ukraine originally give up their nukes as part of an agreement that Russia would leave them alone? Russia can hardly be said to have kept that agreement.

      2. Nigel

        ‘who exactly are the abusers?’

        Probably the Nazi mercenaries Putin sent in to start the conflict eight years ago?

        1. K.Cavan

          No, Nigel, we in the West are the abusers. We get to decide which countries require regime change, how that regime change is achieved, usually through force, overt or covert. We impose our degenerate values on others, while we help ourselves to their raw materials & even their people, to fuel the obscene desire for meaningless wealth of our Oligarch class.
          We are not in any position to lecture Russia, no matter how used to that we’ve become.
          It’s incredibly ironic that, just as the West decides on a Globalist future, the Globe itself decides to reject our values. The Empire of Lies has finally met it’s match, The West is done & the vast majority of humanity will rejoice, no matter how displeased you might be. Suck it up, Nigel & buckle up, because without the rest of the planet to abuse, our ruling class is gonna come down on us like a ton of bricks, until we go under or grow a pair & kick these bums out.

          1. Nigel

            ‘No, Nigel, we in the West are the abusers’

            Speak for yourself.

            ‘We get to decide’

            That’s odd, I’ve never gotten to decide that, neither have any of my elected representatives.

            ‘our degenerate values’

            Again, speak for yourself.

            ‘We are not in any position to lecture Russia’

            No, you just don’t want anyone lecturing Russia because Putin should be able to invade and kill whoever he wants.

            ‘the Globe itself decides to reject our values.’

            Not the values of capitalism and militarism, though?

          2. jonjoker

            Niggle, remind what sort of people lived in N America – almost exclusively – two centuries ago.
            How about Australia? NZ?
            Going back 500 years, the same question applies to S. and Central America too.

            Most thinking people would use a word far stronger than ‘abuse’ for what happened on those continents. Or what happened in Africa from the 1880s to the 1960s; with special reference to the Congo.

          3. Nigel

            If you think those things were terrible – and they were – why would you support what Putin is doing? Or seek to minimise it?

        3. Dinkum

          The agreement was Ukraine would never join NATO .
          And of course after the median square coup which was the work of the far right
          Those pesky Ukrainians in the Donetsk area decided that they would never life under a coup
          This coup was not through a general election hence why the Ukrainian army under control from Kiev was sent to use force to subdue them
          25 thousand people died as a result
          I could say this invasion by Putin so far has not seen 25 thousand dead yet,but in time I would say it could be multiples

      3. jonjoker

        English speakers in Ireland did not take kindly to English troops in our country. We’re not English, like; and neither are all Russian speakers in Ukraine ethnically Russian.
        It’s an easy mistake to make, but just stand back a little and think about it.

        1. anti bot

          go on the nordies. Let’s conflate the murder of innocent people with other wars. Tell us all how Hilter killing millions of people is acceptable for Russia to do so.

          1. E'Matty

            Go on not. Act like the West holds any moral authority at all after the last two decades alone..

        2. Dinkum

          I was listening to a hardline unionist the other day
          He stated the EU had attempted to annex northern Ireland from the UK ,by creating the border in the Irish Sea for brexit purposes .
          I looked up the definition of a international border, and it states it exists where the jurisdiction of one country ends and another starts .

          I found it impossible to actually see any maps with the border of Northern Ireland and the Irish republic in the Irish Sea but discovered plenty with the border on the island of Ireland .
          Then I just thought imagine if we in Ireland suddenly tried to do what Ukraine did since 2014 by shelling across the border that separates 2 landlocked countries.to defeat the British separatists of the breakaway area of Northern Ireland

      4. Duncan Wheeler

        Yes, up to 14,000 people killed in the Donbass region since 2014, almost all due to shelling by Ukraine. This has been brewing for a lot longer than western media says it is. More facts for you to ignore niggle.

    3. Dinkum

      This is a war .There are no saints here,It is pretty laughable that those who talk about wars go on about war with rules and honour .
      It sort of makes war an option .
      But there is no honour or rules of war when a country orders its men and women to partake in war
      Just obscenity and brute force.
      It takes two to tango ,and this one could of been avoided .
      Hopefully this will end soon .

        1. K.Cavan

          The West, through NATO has invaded country after country, Nigel, you can’t just blithely ignore that. NATO is raw military force, not some trade association. If NATO wasn’t expansionist, none of this would be happening. It’s that simple, no matter how hard you try to ignore our hand in this.

          1. Nigel

            Putin invaded Ukraine. Not his or Russia’s first invasion either, by a long shot. You love to ignore that.

      2. SOQ

        I just love the fact that the virtue signallers are in open support of actual real life Nazis after spending two years accusing everyone else of being ‘far right’.

        And all just because they were told this was the new ‘thing’.

        1. Nigel

          I just love that someone pointed out there were Nazis at your white nationalist convoy and now you think you can use Nazis to justify an invasion that slaughters thousands. I bet the Azov Nazis agree with you about covid, though!

          You think the Russian state isn’t far right? It’s a neoliberal oligarchic dictatorship that sells oil and gas to fund itself, and has a warmongering leader who makes ethnonationalist speeches about one Russian people. Bloody hell, it ain’t Communist, that’s for sure.

          1. GiggidyGoo

            ‘It’s a neoliberal nneooligarchic neodictatorship that sells neooil and neogas to fund neoitself, and has a neowarmongering leader who makes neoethnonationalist speeches about one neoRussian people. Bloody neohell, it ain’t neoCommunist, that’s for neosure.

        2. K.Cavan

          It’s because, SOQ, they are Western Hawks, they believe in whatever The West believes in & subscribes to our right to impose this on everyone else. No matter how they cloak this in Equity, Diversity, Inclusivity, it’s nothing more than the exercise of power that Nigel supports. He’s a neo-con.

          1. Nigel

            Weird to be called a hawk by someone supporting a war and eagerly predicting that Putin will inevitably and brilliantly destroy western civilisation. Then again, you are a liar.

          2. scottser

            i can just imagine you looking down on the bombed out ruins of your house and dead family members thinking ‘well, i deserved that’.

          3. anti bot

            at the nordies, how can you describe anyone as a neo con. You are rhe most close minded bs on here. You soq and Goo. I know, you’re the person. Close minded, overly obtrusive and anti female

  3. Zaccone

    Ah yes, this one airstrike on Russian territory has crossed the line completely, those Ukrainians truly are aggressive monsters.

    Nevermind the invasion of Ukraine by 200,000 Russians, occupation of a good chunk of the country, repeated air strikes and artillery strikes on civilians, flattening of multiple cities…etc. That was all OK.

    3. K.Cavan

      You’re confusing Russia with the USA, Zaccone, deliberately, I think. The vast majority of the population in the areas Russia is currently occupying are Russian-speakers, not the Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans & Afghans that have been attacked for absolutely no reason, over the last 30 years, by us, not the US, us, the West.
      The Russians are not attacking civilian targets, at least not deliberately like the Americans do, you know this & so you try to imply they’re as bad as us.
      When this war ends & the smoke clears, literally & figuratively, I think this will be proven.

      1. Nigel

        ‘The Russians are not attacking civilian targets,’

        Hospitals, schools, houses, apartment complexes, playschools notwithstanding, right?

        ‘like the Americans do, you know this & so you try to imply they’re as bad as us.’

        We’re not Americans.

        1. jonjoker

          Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t Irish troops been involved in some of those military adventures? There certainly were some in Afghanistan, in Mali too IIRC and other places too for all I know.

          1. Nigel

            Irish troops, or soldiers who happen to be Irish? Our troops get deployed as Peacekeepers usually, dont they?

          3. E'Matty

            Eh, Irish troops were most definitely involved in Afghanistan. They acted as expert advisers on IEDs. Supposedly we’re the world leaders in expertise in that field. The Brits apparently wound down that aspect of their expertise after the Belfast Agreement. So, in response to Nigel and Scottser, yes, Irish Defense Force members on active duty most certainly participated in the Afghanistan conflict. Note: not a peacekeeping mission.

      2. scottser

        you should see the amount of weapons those pesky ukranians keep in their maternity hospitals..

      3. Zaccone

        “You’re confusing Russia with the USA, Zaccone, ”

        No, I absolutely am not. US artillery and jets are not currently bombing Ukrainian civilians, hospitals and schools as we speak. Unlike Russian jets and artillery.

        If the Russians are not attacking civilian targets deliberately they’re sure as hell hitting them, with thousands of dead civilians to show for it.

  5. eamonn

    walk a mile in my bare feet says putin – you have to love blindness inherent in this statement.

    If I were to paraphrase (badly) I might say….

    How am I supposed to sit down and talk when my bottom is sore from that kick you just landed.
    You can’t sit because I broke your chair ?
    what is wrong with the floor ?, do you want me to put you on the floor, or will you just sit quietly and hear what I want you to say?

    1. SOQ

      While wearing Ukrainian masks in front of the keyboard no doubt. Double virtue signalling points you see.

      1. johnny

        word is on twitter and TRUTH is that YANK munitions and intel were used,go on Uncle Sam get stuck in.

  8. newsjustin

    “Your bombing of that oil depot has really taken the gloss off the month of bombing we’ve done.

    Not sure I want to talk to you now.”

      1. SOQ

        Let’s send in Michael D Higgins- a couple of brief four hour ethereal poetry reading sessions should do it?

        1. jonjoker

          Nah, Michael D is no good – the Russians appreciate culture.
          It’s gotta be Bono, although maybe Geldof would do.

    1. SOQ

      Well it would help if the Guardian actually published the strategy now wouldn’t it?

      It’s a bit like criticising a builder for only being half finished on a two story house when in fact- he or she was only building a bungalow.

      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        I’m sure they will, maybe after Putin publishes what he found in the biolabs.

        1. SOQ

          But sure then you lot will say the Russians are lying?

          Nope- independent investigators all the way,

          2. SOQ

            TikTok acts as a very fast volunteer driven indexing system, from which you dig deeper. If you cannot grasp that concept, then I cannot help you.

  10. Broadbag

    ”awkward backdrop for talks”

    Not quite as awkward as the whole military invasion/slaughter of innocent citizens thing, but yeah, ‘awkward’.

  11. stephen moran

    One has to wonder about the quality / competence of Russian air defenses if 2 helicopters carried out this raid – we’re not exactly taking stealth attack aircraft here – but then again it would be symptomatic of the general malaise in the seriously underwhelming slothful ill-equipped sans strategy Russian military – historians will christen the invasion the “shocking and awful” campaign copyright mise

    1. Broadbag

      He’s deliberately using his old WW2 radar to save money to give to orphans. #cheapestvictoryeva! yay Putin!

      1. stephen moran

        I like the cross reference -that would be the sly old slowest least successful three day special military operation ever card to lull the enemy into a false sense of security by pretending to lose ruse.

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