“Further delay would not be the right choice,” Minister Eamon Ryan has said in response to questions on the proposed new maternity hospital.
— Mícheál Lehane (@MichealLehane) May 5, 2022
This morning.
Dail Eireann.
Meanwhile…
In 2017, Eamon Ryan said the new maternity hospital:
“Should not involve the creation of a lease arrangement but the transfer of ownership of the site to the State so there is no uncertainty or lack of clarity on the ownership.”
Has he now changed his mind?@RoisinShortall pic.twitter.com/dwGHXEcXCh
— Social Democrats (@SocDems) May 5, 2022
Um.
Earlier…
The Sisters of Charity are the shareholders of the St Vincent’s Healthcare Group which the Department of Health said will be the “sole owner of the new hospital” which is planned to be built at the St Vincent’s Hospital site at Elm Park, Dublin 4
This morning.
Via Irish Times:
The Government will not consider any changes to the structure or governance of the new National Maternity Hospital in the coming weeks, despite Opposition concerns about the ownership of the site and potential religious influence.
Government will not reopen National Maternity Hospital deal (Irish Times)
Meanwhile…
…via solicitor Simon McGarr in The Gist (full article at link below)
The first thing to say is that the papers released [on Tuesday night] represent only part of the documents constituting this deal. They are missing the documents which govern and control the company which the nuns have set up and transferred their shareholding to.
Under canon law, this transfer required the approval of the Vatican and is subject to whatever conditions were set by the Vatican to proceed. The Minister does not appear to know what those rules are, telling the Irish Times
“I guess you’d have to talk to the Vatican about that. We don’t have any such documents.”
In fact, the state has been kept so in the dark on the matter that Mason, Hayes and Curran, the solicitors working for Holles Street Hospital, have a footnote at page 3 of the Co-Ordination Agreement meekly asking “MHC Note: Can you clarify whether any third party consents/approvals or additional steps are required in advance of the ability of SVHG to grant the Lease.” This seems like something of a loose end to leave unresolved when you’re bringing a supposedly oven-ready deal to cabinet.
The papers released also lack basic elements on their own account- the Operating Licence is missing the Facility Operations Agreement, which is meant to be attached as a Schedule and the Lease is missing the maps and Annexes which would show the parts of the St Vincent’s campus the current hospital management would control and which parts would actually be under the control of the new hospital’s management. Those maps are also missing from the various option agreements.
This last point is particularly interesting in the light of the eye-opening clause of the Lease which commits that a portion of the land and/or the building being leased is still going to be left in control of the nuns’ new vehicle…(more at link below)
The Gist: The Maternity Hospital’s Difficult Birth (Simon McGarr, The Gist)
There will a boycott of this I think. Who in their right minds would want nuns having anything to do with pregnant or children, two types of people they have been shown to have zero ability to interact with healthily?
I might have one more child but I wouldn’t go anywhere near that place when built. I value both my and my child’s life and sanity, religious orders should be kept well away from things that have zero to do with them.
Lest we forget the abuse at the hands of the sisters of mercy
Wikipedia will refresh your memory
Time the hospitals were stripped from them and taken by the state to fund the abuse cases against their order
CPO the whole complex or move it to another site
Fianna Fail continue to kiss the ring and tug their forelock in blind deference to religious orders that made millions off the backs of women and children who were supposed to be in their care.
Michael Woods’ legacy lives on.
And Fine Gael are just there to bring a bit of glamour then is it?
they just want their name in there so they can tell their voters that they built a hospital.
The Blueshoights would have sold it to Denis O’Brien.
Not really DC – or have you forgotten that it was a threatened vote in the Dáil regarding Simon Harris that led to the 2020 General Election?
That’s Simon Harris, the man who was involved in organising handing over the NMH to St Vincent’s in case of a temporary lapse of memory or your part.
And after 10 am or about the RTE NEWS CHANNEL just goes on to a religious Catholic mass every day
It’s time this was stopped
I find it quite offensive that other religions do not have any national broadcasts
For we are all Irish and not subject to Catholic indoctrination
Mehole is an avid (or rabid?) catholic. Explains why he is happy with this arrangement
and his pallor
This is Micheal Martin who campaigned for a Yes vote in the abortion referendum?
The same guy who gets his orders from the troika
He reminds me of a 5foot odd phallic symbol talking a hell of a lot of bollix
Oh, ffs…
That is all.
echoed loudly
Oh FFG?
well Fupp FG for sure
…Eamo probably wanted to sleep on it before he expressed the greens opinion…
WRT the update, Eamon will say whatever keeps him neck deep in his current wages/expenses/pension €€€ regime. We all know he can flip flop better than a pair of Havaianas in order to stay at the top table.
Locals swear that on certain evenings you can still hear the screams,come into my parlor said the bishop….
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/archbishop-john-charles-mcquaid-s-heavenly-house-in-killiney-for-12m-1.4868345
Ps.why is it news that FF did another rubbish deal with a religious order.,that they have protected since the foundation of the state.
They’ve dropped any pretence of being anything other than the political wings of the religious orders.
While this sort of blatant religious bias is being sanctioned by the Irish Government- can you really blame the Prods up north for not wanting to join? And what is Sinn Féin’s position on this issue btw?
The religious orders have no place in the provision of publicly funded healthcare- end of. They are free to set up private ones if they choose.
again. all of this.. is a perfect example .. of what the public meant in the last GE when we said WE WANT CHANGE.This is so backwardly Irish, and so bonkers to still be doing this day n age with everything we know. The gov. are just incapable of doing anything differently than how they’ve done anything in the last 50 years.