189 thoughts on “Saturday’s Papers

    1. Hank

      Well you could have at least said something snarky. Or posted a few separate comments,each containing a link that no-one will read.
      You should know how it works by now..

    2. TenPin Terry

      Beergate has developed legs.
      Sir Kneelalot is in trouble. The hypocrisy of the man who has spent months demanding Boris resign is staggering.
      Excellent scoop from tomorrow’s Main on Sunday.

      ” KEIR STARMER has been plunged into a full-scale leadership crisis after The Mail on Sunday obtained a secret Labour Party document which appears to blow apart his version of events over ‘Beergate’. ”

      http://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/politics/179032?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=shared_link&s=08

      ( Put an outside bet on Wes Streeting as next Labour leader. Currently 8/1 )

      1. GiggidyGoo

        Starmer, starmer, labour, labour, beer, beer. As predicted.

        In the meantime almost 500 tory boys smarting after Bumbahole Boris let the ‘local conservatives’ (ROFL) suffer for his lies.

        Ah hahahaha.

    3. Kin

      We have a national debt of € 237 billion
      We had before the crash a national debt of €50 billion
      At the height of the implosion we had a debt imposed on us of another €200 billion
      As we have for the past 14 years faced incredible austerity now we see the debt now €237 billion after we sold assets of well over €200 billion to vulture funds and every carpet bagger in the world
      The big question is where did that money go?
      It’s pretty easy when a country cannot survive because those running it are incapable of dealing with money
      If your people cannot survive there is something really wrong especially as they pay at least 70% of what they earn in taxes
      The whole future of Ireland rests on our creditors not demanding we pay what we owe
      When that day arrives it’s all over

      It’s time government is made accountable

  1. jonjoker

    I’m guessing MLMD will be out crowing about SF being the biggest and most voted party in both parliaments in Ireland.
    There’ll be no shutting her up now!

    That said, she needs to come up with solutions for housing and the health service – down here they come way ahead of unification.

    1. Steph Pinker

      Dream on jonjoker; SF are, and have been the main opposition party for many years without anything substantial; it’s all Semtex in the wind and too little too late.

      The only way forward is with independent candidates – as long as they don’t take the piss and ménage à trough in Brussels.

      1. Tom J

        Independent candidates are a waste of space, there’s no leadership and they are only answerable to them selves. Tony Gregory was probably the only decent one out of the whole lot of them.

        1. Steph Pinker

          Maybe *if* a few more genuine Tony Gregory atypical individuals were to follow their bliss it could be possible?

          Michael McNamara from Clare piqued my interest for a while but he’s as dusty as the Burren.

          1. Tom J

            I don’t think the independents could work together to form a government, they would not be able to agree who would be Taoiseach or who would be Tanaiste. Imagine them all having turns, there would be chaos.

          2. Steph Pinker

            It’s basic logic Tom: with the exception of funds the main parties have – independent candidates who are potential TDs/ ministers have the electoral support from their constituencies and believe me, with everything available through technology these days, social media, boots on the ground and door-to-door canvassing can make a difference.

            We’ve all seen how a few votes from weak parties such as Labor or Greens can swing in government favour – why not a space for bona fide independents who actually care? It’s better than the Seanad – no?

            My main issue – as you’ve already mentioned – is one of coherence, nonetheless, being independent doesn’t necessarily mean redesigning the wheel, TBH, if one looks at world politics as we speak, it’s obvious there are many politicians jumping ship – call it survival or conscience, we’ll never know, but there is a waning gap which will be filled and I’d prefer if it were filled with decent, considerate, intelligent people who actually question the status quo, especially regarding taxpayers money and the moral and ethical position they’ve been elected to.

            Surely the common ground for independents should be their constituents and, as a result, said independents can, if necessary, still represent their constituents as a unit against the larger parties. One can be individual and united for many a cause without being whipped.

          3. Tom J

            Steph,
            If independent politicians ever become a majority it would be more of a disaster than we are in now. We would have right wing, left wing middle of the road center, all sorts vying for power.
            Some of the ones already elected to the Dail already are very dangerous people with no leadership.

      2. Kin

        Sad thing is it’s too late
        No one can solve this mess
        Better off leaving FF/FG and the greens to deal with the mess they created
        If the independents and SF take power it’s political suicide
        Better let the cancer of irelands government just eat it’s self away
        The good news there will be no money left to pay their pensions when the country goes bang and it will

        1. Tom J

          Too many right wing independents to share power with SF, there would be a civil war.

          1. Kin

            Tom j it will be a return to the dark days of the troubles
            This time the unionist thugs
            That’s what you get when the gun never leaves politics
            Sadly Sinn Fein are the political wing of the IRA and the Protestant or unionist parties are the political wing of the unionists paramilitary wings
            It’s a recipe for disaster
            Both sides are sectarian and sure a few thousand of those willing to bring the gun and bomb to make their point
            The last thing we need is a border poll and brexit is the biggest threat to peace on this land as the EU and UK lock horns
            I see choppy waters ahead
            And now it could involve the whole of Ireland
            But hey let’s just wait and see
            The only hope is the alliance party

          2. Tom J

            Kin,
            I don’t think there will be a return to violence in the North, at least I hope not. The only way there will be a united Ireland is with the will of the majority of the people in favour of that happening. A lot of the independents in the Republic are dodgey people who I wouldn’t trust at all because they have no leadership and are a law unto themselves.

        2. Fearganainm

          “And now it could involve the whole of Ireland”

          105 people died in the 26 Counties last time out. Didn’t you notice?

    2. K. Cavan

      Failure to even address housing & health services haven’t stopped FFFG being re-elected. Incumbency is a huge advantage, not that SF are going to do a damn thing, they’re just another bunch of Globalist puppets.

  2. stephen moran

    Mmmm seems Sir Jeffrey was a little economical wit the truth on the telly last night – quelle surprise
    “Stormont’s Department of Economy has now shared the Kantar grocery research which featured in the NI leaders debate. In summary it concludes that grocery prices are 8% cheaper in NI than the GB”. This shows what a disaster is for consumers in mainland U.K and just how well the Protocol is working in reality for the people of Northern Ireland. As the cliché goes if the DUP were asked to dig their own grave they’d start an argument and demand a bigger shovel.

    Moran’s first rule of politics – always be mega suspicious of any political party or country that feels the need to slip the word Democratic in their title as voters will find to their cost that they are anything but.

    1. Mad

      That’s interesting
      Now do it for RoI as well
      They will be able to refute any talk of a United Ireland with that I’d say

      1. stephen moran

        I think even the most ardent Shiner knows that Utd Irelande project is an aspirational one and they don’t want to ahem shoot their load prematurely on that one as their only likely to get one stab at it this generation. Certainly the polls (I know it always depends on how you phrase the question) point to only about 30-35% support in Northern Ireland for unification (I have a bit of an issue with the term “reunification” – as I wonder when historically apart from under colonial rule that was ever the case before – happy to be corrected on that or any polls that tell a different story). On the finances I’m surprised more hasn’t been made of the possibility of direct EU assistance – anyway it would certainly knock a whack off our current budget contributions given Northern Ireland has a much lower GDP per capita than the Republic.

        1. Mad

          I agree.
          As I understand it the subsidy from UK PLc has been artificially extended to about 2025/6. Friends in the North government tell me there is a governmental shith shyorm there right now and worse to come

          1. stephen moran

            the fiscal sub is approx €10 billon a year but the accounting is a tad opaque – I’m agnostic on this but the FDI boost the North would get from unification would be very sizable IMO

          2. Mad

            Yes it would be if we were clever enough to get the US in the pot for it also, no time like the present

    2. SOQ

      Interesting tone from Mary Lou, about equality rather than triumphalism, which is the correct way to proceed. Having the same in reverse is not going to change anything and in order to achieve their ultimate goal, SF know they have to bring a section of moderates with them.

      As I said before, there is three different slogans- Equality, Brits out, and United Ireland- which do not necessarily mean the same thing. Equality is back to basics civil rights, Brits Out could mean a quasi independent statelet, and a United Ireland will bring challenges that nobody is even talking about yet.

      Anyways, congratulations to Sinn Féin on their win.

  3. stephen moran

    “The Scheherezade, also known as Putin’s secret super yacht, has just been arrested in Italy.” . Maybe he should have called it the Schadenfreude. And Putin’s unsinkable navy lost a frigate as well today – and not in the lost and found sort of way. Putin remains The Master Strategist – too much winning for one weekend.

    1. K. Cavan

      It’s not been arrested, stephen, it’s been stolen, adding Piracy to the list of illegal acts of the governments of Cold War NATO.

      1. stephen moran

        It was liberated to pay reparations to the sovereign independent country they invaded. When you rape your own “mother” country to pay for super yachts and villas / football teams instead of investing you end up with a Airfix / Matchbox army and glass bottom navy that gets its ass kicked . Russia is endemically corrupt and those totalitarian fascists are now getting the hiding they deserve.

  4. Hughie Luas

    I think it would be a great boost to Irish athleisure wear innovation if Katie Taylor endorsed Gym+Coffee instead of the UK’s Gymshark.

    That said, people who wear Gym+Coffee are all the latter and none of the former, so she could suffer reputational damage.

    1. TenPin Terry

      I think you mean people who wear Gym+Coffee are all the latte…
      Money talks One Vowel™ and unlike you Katie Taylor doesn’t give a toss where it comes from.
      Get off your knees™

      1. GiggidyGoo

        And there’s Charger ramping up his schizophrenia early. Now Hughie Luas is ‘one vowel’
        Ahahahahahaha
        Back of the net…..etc!

  5. TenPin Terry

    Dahl naan, naan, naan !
    Durham Police’s investigation into his beer and £200 curry party couldn’t have come at a worse time for Sir Kneelalot.
    Labour’s failure to reclaim Red Wall seats in the local elections means the Tories have reasons to be cheerful about the results and give Boris another get out of jail free card.
    Starmer’s repeated calls for Boris to resign simply for being investigated by police have now come back to haunt him.
    And now he just looks shifty with Labour denying for months the Ginger Growler™ was present at the booze-up then being forced to admit she was.
    When even the BBC are reluctantly forced to cover the story you know it’s cutting through.
    It’s delicious irony.
    Box Office will be pouring himself a large one at his country retreat this weekend.
    Marvellous™

    1. Mad

      He will in his ballots
      He’s gonna be practically apoplectic that his press secretary let him be depicted literally playing drawing games with 3 year olds on the day of his worst electoral performance. My Pet Goat Redux

      PS how’s the diet going?

    2. GiggidyGoo

      Poor Charger. Todays list of diversions…… Starmer, Labour, Labour, Labour, racism, ™, ™, ™, Irish, Irish, Irish.
      While Bumbahole Boris takes a break in Chargers Mittyworld to try come up with some new mantras.
      Almost 500 tory boys left licking their wounds courtesy of the idiot boy.
      Carrie ordering more moving containers.
      Strike!
      Stiff Upper Loins
      1966!
      Touchdown!
      Back of the Net!
      Hand of God!
      Escape from Victory!

      Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh ha ha ha ha heh heh heh.

  6. Kin

    I can imagine all the newspapers and media today of the German tanks complete with WW2 signage rolling east to Ukraine galvanising support for Putin with the Russian people
    A very bad move
    We are getting closer and closer to WW3
    As Russian oil and especially gas is essential for German industry for one with ++++80%
    Without it Germany will grind to a halt and of course it’s not easy to source from other places as they have found out
    So it looks like NATO is going to try and grab it all
    Or this will be the line the Russian media will be spinning
    It’s more effective than nuke torpedos aimed at Ireland and a 500 foot tsunami sweeps the British isles off the map because its believable
    Fact check is the Japanese when they decided a war was because they could not secure badly needed oil for their industry
    Meanwhile Ireland has the whole kinsale gas field capped and that’s gas is badly needed and let’s face it the war brewing will cause far more environmental damage than turf fires and uncapping the same gas that we will be importing

    1. stephen moran

      Fact check

      German dependence on Russia in REALITY that shows that they can and are moving rapidly away from dependence on Russia. Figures compared to 2021: these percentages are probably out of date already and are lower

      Oil
      11% vs 35%
      Coal
      8% vs 50%
      Gas
      34% vs 55%

      1. SOQ

        Given that they closed down half their nuclear plants in favour of Russian gas- how exactly are they are they moving rapidly away from dependence on Russia? They sniggered at Trump when he warned him about that- he was right.

        The pipeline for alternatives will take years to build by which time this Ukraine mess will be sorted one way or another. In the mean time they are screwed- pay in roubles, or else.

      2. Kin

        Fact check according to satalite news from euro news aljazeera experts stating that there are problems getting opec countries to up production partly due the all this abandoning fossil fuel lines by the EU
        Also problems regarding gas as the set up has massive pipelines all going one way and that’s to the ex soviet block
        Mind you there is always propane but with that your system has to be converted to use it from natural gas
        Germany so far has had it a pretty uphill task to wean its self off 10% of what it consumes

        Maybe russia now had made sure to remove all the pipelines headed west so there is no infrastructure towards Europe just in case NATO cannot resist the old Iraqi job
        Stephen it’s going to get far worse and it’s time ireland uncapped it’s kinsale gas fields and secured our energy
        Maybe reopen the turf fired power stations
        As for the greens give them the heave ho as all they are is redundant

      3. K. Cavan

        Come October, stephen, German industry will have to shut down in its entirety, if they are to have enough gas to keep them alive through Winter. What passes for leadership in the EU & Germany have no plan, countries will break ranks with Brussels because they will have no other choice.
        I’ve been in Berlin in November, where Winter kills you if you can’t stay warm. Your figures are fanciful at best, where is Germany getting all this fuel from? Utter nonsense, as usual.

        1. anti bot

          how come you only log on when soq logs off. he has the morning shift you get the evening shift?

      4. Kin

        Without gas and oil Germany grinds to a halt and Europe will face some recession as well
        According to experts they have only reduced their dependency on Russian gas and oil by 10%
        It’s going to be impossible to source new supplies
        Even with LPG there is insufficient storage capacity and gas pumped from Russia depends on Russia and without it to convert everything to propane from gas is easily done if you just have one cooker but times that by the millions then the power stations etc
        It’s going to take at least two years to change but meantime

        And have you actually thought if Russia pulls the plug they can sell plenty of their gas to China
        And that goes for oil

  7. SOQ

    VP of Pfizer arrested after #pfizerdocuments get released

    Rady Johnson, the executive Vice President of Pfizer, has been arrested at his home and charged with multiple counts of fraud by federal agents. He was taken into custody and is awaiting a bail hearing. This comes as 1,000s of classified documents from Pfizer were released, showing the true risks of the experimental vaccine.

    https://vancouvertimes.org/vp-of-pfizer-arrested-after-document-dump/

    Good- now move on to the FDA, and the rest. We might see Hulohoop ‘n co behind bars yet.

    1. SOQ

      Pfizer documents: Over 1,200 people died during Pfizer vaccine trials

      Following the release of the Pfizer documents, it’s now confirmed that 1,223 people died within the first 28 days after being inoculated with the BioNTech Pfizer vaccine during trials — and it was still approved for use.

      Far from being ‘safe and effective,’ Pfizer’s documents prove otherwise: the BioNTech Pfizer vaccine is perhaps the most ineffectual, dangerous ‘vaccine’ ever brought to market.

      https://thecountersignal.com/pfizer-documents-over-1200-died-during-pfizer-vaccine-trials/

      1. johnny

        what a total complete waste of your time on a Saturday,all your claims,opinions are just junk,absolute trash,constantly wrong yet you are still desperately trying scare people and spread fear,your claim is garbage,its been discredited multiple times,would you ever get a life.

        “The figure of 1,223 fatalities among 158,893 adverse effects reflect “spontaneous” reports from sources that include health officials in several countries, without any verification of the cause, among the millions of vaccinated people worldwide during that period, Pfizer spokeswoman Dervila Keane told AFP.

        It does not indicate specific causes of death, and the fatalities may include people with “various illnesses” such as cancer or cardiovascular disease, she said.”

        1. GiggidyGoo

          ‘ Pfizer spokeswoman Dervila Keane told AFP.’
          After the release of and revelations in the Pfizer documents, are you really going to quote a Pfizer person to back up anything to do with, Pfizer.

          1. johnny

            its above your pay grade as it requires comprehension,ok look a big truck.

            “They are part of a pattern of inaccurate claims — which AFP Fact Check has repeatedly debunked — that seek to raise fears about Covid-19 shots via reports of deaths and other adverse effects following vaccination, even though no causal link was established between the problems and the jabs.”

            https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9UC4LE

      2. GiggidyGoo

        No link in your original comment. Just a quote from Pfizer. Which you’re relying on.

        1. K. Cavan

          Ah, Giddy, you can sense the Fear & Desperation in his awful ranting nonsense. As if the accused saying “I done nuffink” actually carries any weight!

    2. johnny

      (At Rady’s lawyers’ request, a court must have approved a media blackout, and Google is concealing search results:)

      its not even ‘funny’ any more,this level of stupidity,just lies.

      dont even bother asking for a link.

          1. Nigel

            Everything about that link you gave SCREAMS fake. No sources, no details, no links to official law enforcement, and all because of a judge-ordered media blackout so all-encompassing and powerful it’s going to be the villain in the next Marvel movie. You are a rube and a noob for believing such dreck and for linking to it.

          2. Nigel

            Literally told you in my comment why I think it’s fake. Even you’re starting to think you got caught out.

          3. Mad

            You guys are even bigger idiots for, on a sunny day, giving the poor guy the amount of negative attention he so clearly craves. Give it a rest FFS!

          1. SOQ

            Yeah fair point, but it is flying all around twitter too- I just picked that site at random.

    3. Nigel

      I’m beginning to get a sense of how so much Russian propaganda becomes instantly factual in your brain. You’re just genuinely unable to critically asess online media for credibility.

      1. SOQ

        Oh ok- so because there is a near media blackout on the Pfizer documents then there is nothing of importance in them is it?

        1. Nigel

          No, there is a near media blackout on the Pfizer documents because there is nothing important in them, as you’ve shown time and time again – you hype them, people look at them, there’s nothing there but smoke and mirrors reporting to amplify distort and invent.

          1. SOQ

            9 pages of side effects reported from patients- except no doctor was every informed such a list existed.

          2. Nigel

            No, you are lying now, it was 9 pages of side effects that researchers were TOLD TO LOOK OUT FOR. It’s probably a standard list for every vaccine and most medicines – ‘during trials thse are the sorts of things you should be watching out for.’ Who the hell falls for that sort of tabloidery? Oh, you. Every time.

          3. Nigel

            No it desn’t. Jesus, you’re a credulous one. Each site you link to is worse than the lest.

          4. SOQ

            Ah ok so The Rio Times is also fake news- got it. One question remains- why did they try and hide these documents for 75 years?

            Or is that fake news also?

          5. Me So Harney

            Wow, according to tech numpty Adrian Wong, not a dodgy source whatsoever..

            Pot kettle as per usual..

          6. SOQ

            The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) did- with some spiel about not having enough staff. Funny how they could find the staff once ordered too?

            The issue was not just about how long it would take to release all, but in what order- meaning they wanted the ability to withhold anything they chose, for UPTO 75 years.

            Hiding is the correct word.

          7. Nigel

            They didn’t ask, it was the FDA, the FDA didn’t ask, it was a staffing issue – you lie about everything to shore up your narrative, don’t you?

          8. Fearganainm

            “Wow, according to tech numpty Adrian Wong, not a dodgy source whatsoever..”

            Explain, in your own words, precisely which part/s of his rebuttal is/are incorrect.

            Take your time. Take as long as you need.

            It’s tough, isn’t it? Especially as we all know that you’re not going to be able to do it.

          9. Me So Harney

            As you said earlier..

            “I’m afraid that blog is not a credible source..”

            Yet again falling on your own sword..

            Lolololololols

          10. SOQ

            Wong is playing with semantics to misrepresent the fact that the judge disallowed them the ability to drip feed the documents over a 75 year period.

            It doesn’t matter if the term was hide or seal or selectively issue, the nett result would have been the same- that the controversial stuff would have been withheld until after we are all dead.

          11. Cian

            And you keep referring to “rumour” sites that are all using a Pfizer document that was released at the end of 2021 as the “smoking gun”!

            But all these spurious claims have been rebutted before.

            e.g. “158,000 adverse events” yup from tens of millions of jabs – and the majority of these 158,000 were “sore arm”, “headache”, “tiredness”.. all the usual things when you get a vaccine.

          12. Nigel

            ‘It doesn’t matter if the term was hide or seal or selectively issue, ‘

            Your attitude to truth and accuracy – it doesn’t matter so long as it can be misrepresented completely.

        2. Ten Pin's Fictitious Mrs.

          No shame Seamus O’ Quibheann.
          My friends Ma is having a meeting with the rest of her living siblings this week as to what to do about their sister, who has been down the same sewers as you since the start of the pandemic.
          Her latest family group text is that that the Ukraine war is linked to the covid conspiracy, as the blue in the flag represents the masks we were forced to wear and the yellow represents all the yellow Covid warning signs.
          Blood on your hands babes and that goes for Bodger and Nick too.

      2. Fearganainm

        “Wong is playing with semantics to misrepresent the fact that the judge disallowed them the ability to drip feed the documents over a 75 year period.”

        Are you absolutely sure about that?

        https://www.techarp.com/science/pfizer-9-pages-vaccine-effects/

        “…The truth is – the FDA was already releasing documents to PHMPT. They not only released more than 12,000 pages of the requested 329,000 pages by end of January 2022, they were on track to deliver the remaining documents in about 5 years…”

        1. SOQ

          A federal judge in Texas on Thursday ordered the Food and Drug Administration to make public the data it relied on to license Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine, imposing a dramatically accelerated schedule that should result in the release of all information within about eight months.

          That’s roughly 75 years and four months faster than the FDA said it could take to complete a Freedom of Information Act request by a group of doctors and scientists seeking an estimated 450,000 pages of material about the vaccine.

          https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/

          1. Fearganainm

            So the compromise worked out by the judge would have required the FDA to reallocate some of its workforce as the ten employees who normally dealt with FOI requests couldn’t physically deliver such a volume. Parts of some of the hundreds of thousands of documents had to be redacted. Interpreting an overstretched office of ten employees as being part of a conspiracy to ‘hide’ information (that they were already, at their own pace, handing over), is not the only way to regard the issue – the task required more time and manpower than the FDA had at its immediate disposal.

            By the time the PHMPT gets around to actually reading and releasing all the documents we’ll probably have seen a lot more viral online claims based on people’s misreadings/misunderstandings/deliberate distortions of the data.

          2. Me So Harney

            “the rask required more time than the FDA had at its disposal..”

            Horse manure.

          3. K. Cavan

            That’s right, Ferg, it’s a Clerical Matter, Pfizer never attempted to keep these details secret for over two generations did they? There’s a reason why they did that, a million dead bodies, many millions more to come.

      3. K. Cavan

        You spend your time parroting the MSM, Nigel, when you’re not just literally making stuff up. Following up stories online, where the censorship is already hugely biased towards Big Pharma’s constant lies, is a far more reliable indicator of truthfulness, if the stories are actually pointing out their lies.

    4. Kin

      Makes me laugh SOQ
      As we hear the kinehan drugs cartel is up to its neck in problems we see the same for the Pfizer drugs cartel that actually has a licence to deal its drugs in stores all over the world
      Maybe they might have a more honest CEO by offering Danny boy the top job
      As I believe if what you are saying Pfizer’s drug lord is in the slammer
      Maybe Danny boy can work remotely as we have found possible thanks to covid 19
      It never ceases to amaze me the scum at the top not content with more money earns legitiamtly than they could ever spend in fifty life times but they still want to steal

    5. Cian

      Sigh. Again this is using the Pfizer document that was released six months ago.
      And it is, again, misrepresenting it.

      1. K. Cavan

        Document? It’s a lot more than A Document. What are you on about? Any indication as to how you claim it is being misrepresented? Didn’t think so.

  8. GiggidyGoo

    If Ukraine military are winning against Russian military, why hasn’t the Ukraine sent tanks and planes and soldiers from other areas to Mariupol to stop the onslaught and expected slaughter there?

    1. Kin

      Simple they are waiting for the divisions of German panza tanks now going to be utilised heading east
      First stop Kiev next Moscow
      History repeating its self now

    2. Cian

      The Russians are occupying Ukraine.

      Ukraine has stopped their advance, and are pushing them back in some places (or the Russians are doing a “strategic retreat”) – mostly this was due to long Russian supply lines.

      But this a log way from re-claiming all of Ukraine back. Especially the parts that are immediately adjacent to Russia (no supply issues)

      1. K. Cavan

        Ukraine is over, Poland may reclaim it’s former Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth territories too but Russia will leave the rump state landlocked & full of Nazi lunatics, whereupon, it will become the EU’s problem.

        1. anti bot

          soq, why try you win every argument by mentioning Nazis. What about your Trump supporters? Are they not rasists nazis too?

      2. Kin

        And cian the parts Russia are going to control is the industrialised heartland
        This is going to have to be sorted out politically not military
        As the west ups the anti they forget PUTIN dose not give a rats bottom

        Relationships with the west are so bad we are on the verge of WW3 (and Putin dose not need to Trade with the west especially Europe especially as we now have a colder war than the Cold War in the 1950s onwards )with oil and gas as the prices have rocketed Putins profits have also soared

        I would not be surprised if he is ready now to dismantle the infrastructure and use it for the supply to China to send a pretty sober message
        The day German tanks appear against Russian forces the Russian people will no doubt all get behind Putin as they will see dejavu of nazi Germany when they invaded Russia
        And boy Russia suffered tens of millions of deaths

        1. Nigel

          ‘and Putin dose not need to Trade with the west’

          Russia is heavily reliant on the money from the oil and gas it exports to the west.

      3. Me So Harney

        “Ukraine has stopped their advance..”

        ROFL

        Eh no dude, Russia has stopped their advance and aren’t interested in going any further.

        Putin has achieved his objectives.

  9. TenPin Terry

    Excellent piece in the Torygraph on how a group of volunteer drone and IT enthusiasts in Ukraine have morphed in a deadly guerrilla force adapting old Soviet anti-tank grenades with 3D printed fins to launched unsuspecting attacks on Russkie troops.
    How on earth does Mad Vlad extricate himself from this mess without looking like a fool – that’s the key to ending the conflict.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/06/drones-new-snipers-ukraine-war-3d-tech-turns-soviet-grenades/

    1. SOQ

      Is it really about Mad Vlad extricating himself or is it a case of the US and NATO extricating themselves? The EU is committing hari kari with those sanctions, because they are hurting the EU more than they are hurting Russia.

      Russia’s demand is very upfront- a Ukraine which is independent from the two blocks- and it is going to happen one way or another. Either that or the place will be split down the middle and the EU will be left with bill of funding a bunch of armed to the teeth neo Nazis.

      1. TenPin Terry

        Yawn – still excusing the invasion of a sovereign country by a dictator.
        You’re an imbecile Queenie. Stick to anal warts, a subject that’s obviously close to your heart. Well you probably see more than most on here …

          1. TenPin Terry

            You mean like this from you yesterday ?
            ” Why is this MI5 anal wart still here? ”
            Your obsession over excusing Putin’s invasion of Ukraine can be excused as misguided but your hypocrisy on here is contemptible.
            When one of GiggidyGoo’s usernames comes to your support you know how low you’ve fallen.
            Morto.

          2. GiggidyGoo

            Schizophrenia in abundance today. Everyone is Giggidy…no everyone is Stephen. Ahahaha.

            Does that link to your Charger Salmons days hit a nerve,,? Every time,,?
            Back of the net etc.

            In the meantime- Poor old Bumbahole Boris. ROFL!

      2. Nigel

        ‘Russia’s demand is very upfront- a Ukraine which is independent from the two blocks’

        The Ukrainians seem to have another opinion on the matter.

        1. SOQ

          The Ukrainians or the Zelenskyy regime? They are two very separate things.

          When was the last time you heard of an opinion poll of the Ukrainian populace?

          1. Nigel

            No, they’re not, much as Russian propaganda tries to delegitimise Zelensky, there’s no way he could have managed this level of resistance without popular support.

          2. Ten Pin's Fictitious Mrs.

            Whats Putin’s official approval rating this week Admiral SOQ?
            ‘Says it all really’ ‘And that’s all you really need to know’
            Internet Patsy.

        2. bisted

          …which Ukrainians…I’m sure you’ve decided who the goodies and baddies are at this stage?

          1. bisted

            …I suppose when you take away Crimea, Donbass and ethnic Russians they may be able to form a majority…especially, when as an electorate, they believed Zelensky…

          2. Nigel

            What makes you think ‘ethnic Russian’ = ‘wants to be a breakaway state run by Russia or part of Russia?’ They’ve been subjected to Putin’s idea of Russian rule for a while now, and he’s busy flattening their cities – seems like a major assumption on your part.

          3. SOQ

            I haven’t read anything about the 40% Russian speakers in Ukraine wanting to join Russia, but they were banned from speaking Russian in public places like shops?

            And I expect they think that not being shot at or bombed by Nazis would be nice too.

          4. Annie 14 Tennis

            Nigel. You’re getting history lessons here every day. At this stage shouldn’t you start learning or researching yourself. You are making a complete fool of yourself with these silly comments.

        3. Kin

          And Putin Nigel will not settle for less now
          The alternative will be NATO invading Russia
          And we all know what follows that
          Both nazi Germany and Napoleon learned winters are pretty harsh on them
          Plus if you think the EU will be able to source oil and gas they badly need from a miraculous sweeping victory
          There will not be one pipeline intact as Russians believe in scorched earth policy
          Then of course the nukes

          1. Nigel

            That is not an alternative to anything. It’s not on the cards. It’s not going to happen. You’ve got yourself worked up into a frenzy over this and it’s a complete figment of your imagination.

      3. Kin

        Beginning to look like it SOQ
        Putin needs to dismantle all the pipeline infrastructure west pretty quickly letting Germany know in more than any uncertain terms
        They will have to get to Moscow before they can start the flow west
        It’s echos of WW2
        I never thought I would see the day again that German war planes and tanks would roll east ways
        In reality it’s the forth reich and no wonder the UK got out
        We really have to

          1. Tom J

            @ SOQ,
            So you want people’s IP addresses so you can intimidate them. Who the fcuk do you think you are.

          2. Sara

            Can’t believe you removed my incest joke Bodger. It was a joke that had the added virtue of being true.

    2. K. Cavan

      Fiction, TPT, fiction. Only an utter idiot would lend any credence to such fanciful nonsense. Even the much-vaunted UK & US weapons are proving useless, when they even get to the battlefield in one piece.
      When you see crap like that in the papers, you know the game’s up.

  10. stephen moran

    The Daily Excrement has surpassed itself today and gone the full denial airbrushing of reality Pravda Pyongyang National Enquirer on the UK local election results – when the well past their best before date Tories lose getting on for 500 seats and is a victory. No doubt that sub jamrag the Spectator and faeces for brains Brendan O’Neill will elucidate on how Labour / Lib Dems were actually routed.

    1. Me So Harney

      Like you “elucidating” about why you think Muslims are “ragheads”.

      Lololololololols

    2. K. Cavan

      Local Elections have never, ever been any use in predicting how voters will cast their ballots in a GE. As useless as the Tories are, the UK will not be having a man as PM who can’t tell you whether a woman has a penis or not. Starmer has to go, if Labour are to have a snowball’s chance in hell & the rest of their front bench are just as useless.

  11. Kin

    Fear man
    That’s what happens when a country is partitioned or annexed the Irish border is not in the Irish Sea
    It’s on our land
    It’s seems very inconvenient for the EU as it plays brexit
    Thing is the UK are no longer members but Northern Ireland is on the island of Ireland and the republic is on the same island of Ireland and still a member of the EU
    So it’s pretty hard to punish the UK without punishing Northern Ireland and our republic
    So it’s time our leaders grew balls and reminded them that things better change and Ireland must be treated as a special status because our border is on the island of Ireland until it goes and Ireland is United in the EU or out
    It’s their choice

    1. GiggidyGoo

      ‘ The weather extremes in Pakistan include extremely high and extremely low temperatures, heaviest rainfalls and floodings. Pakistan has one of the highest temperature ranges in the world (temperature range refers to the difference between highest and lowest recorded temperatures ever) with proven weather conditions ranging from as high as like those in the Sahara desert, to as low as those like in Alaska making it one of the most climatically diverse countries in the world. The highest temperature ever recorded in Pakistan is 53.7 °C (128.7 °F) which was recorded in Turbat, Balochistan on 28 May 2017.’

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_weather_records_in_Pakistan

        1. Nigel

          ‘April 2022 in #Pakistan was extremely hot and dry.Average temperature nationwide was 28.36C,+4.05C above the 61-90 norm (over +3C above the 91-20). It was the hottest April on records with a very huge margin:almost 1C hotter than April 2010,2nd hottest.’
          https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1522997916327190529

          Also looking at heatwaves in Japan, NE Africa, northern Asia and the US mid-west (which is already in a years-long drought.) Wildfires already in Siberia.

        2. GiggidyGoo

          “Like many other South Asian nations, Pakistan is not high in danger from the climate change effects.”
          (your link)

          1. Nigel

            I think there might be some editorial warfare going on in that wiki.

            ‘Climate change in Pakistan is expected to cause effects on the environment and people in Pakistan. As a result of ongoing climate change, the climate of Pakistan has become prone to change over the past several decades; this trend is expected to continue into the future. In addition to increased heat, drought and extreme weather conditions in some parts of the country, the melting of glaciers in the Himalayas have impact on the some of important rivers of Pakistan. Between 1999 and 2018, Pakistan was ranked the 200th normal affected country in terms of extreme climate caused by climate change’

            ‘The climate change projections of the AR5 for South Asia as a whole show that warming is likely to be above the global mean and climate change will impact the melting rate of glaciers and precipitation patterns for the region, particularly affecting the timing and strength of the monsoon rainfall. Consequently, this will significantly impact the productivity and efficiency of water-dependent sectors such as agriculture and energy’

    2. Oro

      That’s scary. I’ve been in 48c once (low humidity), for one day, and I had access to AC and it was still really horrible. I can’t imagine how it would be for weeks on end with no air conditioning in that heat.

      1. Fearganainm

        12th count:

        DUP on 4712.58 and UUP on 4515.19.

        SDLP transfers to decide the final seat.

        (Quota 7,811)

        1. Fearganainm

          “I’m told Ryan McCready (UUP) is about to concede. Apparently will fall about 95 short.”

          https://twitter.com/FrankieHargan/status/1523086538992762881

          “Ryan McCready has accepted he is not going to defeat the DUP, I’m told. Looks like Foyle and the Election coming to an end.”

          https://twitter.com/McGrathDominic/status/1523086683306143752

          DUP’s Gary Middleton gets the 5th and final seat, presumably without reaching the quota. That gives the DUP 25 seats overall, behind Sinn Féin’s 27.

  12. Hughie Luas

    Fair play to the Shinners. Northern Ireland: A vile State deliberately designed in a way to prevent this sort of thing has finally failed.

    We’re well set for a week of spluttering from Ten Pence Terry and friends.

    1. Fearganainm

      “…The bookies had Sinn Fein runaway favourites to be the biggest party — 1/25 in fact. And the odds of 10-1 on the DUP’s chances of finishing top said a lot about the party’s position. And sure enough the ‘Shinners’ have romped home. And the DUP is left to ponder its ‘difficult’ campaign which was hampered by divisions and claims of dirty tricks. But they were also guilty of the cardinal sin of believing and trusting the DUPlicitous Boris Johnson who sold them more pups than a rogue dog breeder…”

      https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/comment/weve-witnessed-a-seismic-shift-in-northern-ireland-politics-what-would-ian-paisley-sr-make-of-it-all-41625456.html

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