i don’t know what’s scarier – anto, or the fact his employers do not care for punctuation.
The Redundant Proofreaders Society
Shoplifters Please.
Note it is our policy not to call.
The Garda Anto will deal with you.
WhoAreYa
Anto will love you long time
Casey
Yes, rape. Hilarious as a punishment for shoplifting or just hillarious. YOU decide.
Mani
I dunno. You’re the one who saw ‘love’ and thought ‘rape’.
Casey
Unless Anto is a slender Vietnameese woman who is willingly working in a brothel and specialises in punishment beetings for shoplifters with her cat of nine tails, then yes, this is a rape joke.
Mani
I remember my first punishment beeting. You’d think a radish couldn’t do much damage but I was in bits after.
Here, refresh your memory and stop making stuff up. No ‘rape’ Casey, so no rape joke just your projection and refusal to see what is actually going on in the scene.
Here it is…
Depends how you look at it, sure in that scene it’s an offer of sex for money (albeit relatively little money) not rape, but throughout the film there is a very clear analogy between guns and penises e.g. “this is my rifle this is my gun”. In the beginning of first section of the film Joker expresses a desire to kill, in the beginning of the second he expresses a desire to have sex, in the final scene he achieves his metamorphosis into a killer/f***er devoid of humanity by shooting a woman/girl not unlike the prostitute who approaches him in that scene.
The prostitute and soldier are analogous, neither, with their humanity intact, would do what they do of their own free will, some fundamental humanity must be stripped away before they can do so. You could argue that process of what the machine of war does to people could be viewed as a kind of rape (it’s something more than a violence, it is not just something that is done to you, it is also something taken away).
@casey
Depends on your definition of ‘willingly’, for example in Thailand Bangkok pimps will often travel to the Northern Hill Tribes (very poorly educated) and offer to rent a girl for a year for about $200, that girl will than spend the next year in a sordid room in Bangkok in a state of perpetual insomnia thanks to the yaba pills she’s been fed. When the year’s up, that same girl will be sent back to her tribe, still bombed out of her head (the tribes people will say it’s because she’s been away from the tree spirits) to recruit some of her fellow villagers, naive girls who are impressed with how she’s dressed in (relative) city finery and make up.
Point being, if you’re going to get on a moralistic high-horse, make sure the saddles secure first.
SOMK
*formating
madouveh on the dole
Just hilarious.
WhoAreYa
Casey! Casey! You’re the divil!
No-one mentioned rape Casey (except you)
Rather Anto will engage in a meaningful, deeply personal and intimate relationship with you in legal exchange for a good, service or favour. A “girlfriend experience’ perhaps.
Eamonn Clancy
Northsiders take note. This is how we roll on our side of the Liffey .
I think it’s against the law to hold someone against their will, so unless Anto plans on wishing well on your merry way, they’d be best off calling the guards.
jungleman
At least Anto can’t drag you to court.
All the good ones fly south for winter
He makes you fall in love with him then he breaks your heart. Compared to this a kicking seems favourable.
Excuse me for I have something in my eye.
ahjayzis
Gosh, bet their faces are red. Inadvertently flirting with lawbreaking! They’ll never live this down!
He’ll be meeting lots of new people in prison if any laws are broken while Anto is ‘dealing’ with you.. And that sign is not doing him any favours.
WhoAreYa
Is it strictly speaking an offence to threaten personal injury – (though Anto hasn’t done that, he’s merely said he will negotiate with you)
I think it is an offense only to threaten someone with personal injury if you want something in return, up to then it is free speech – depending on context of course, if it is a big man who is threatening a slender person down a dark alley.
I don’t think dealing with someone in a well-lit, public space will necessarily be automatically construed as ‘intent to cause serious bodily harm’ but I stand to be corrected. Otherwise for example horseplay and shouldering, sledging etc on a pitch during a game would be an offence as well.
he’s merely said he will negotiate with you
Eh, where do you see that?
The sign says Anto will deal with you.
Regardless of a well lit, public space, if you do not desire to be ‘dealt’ with by Anto, and you are held against your will, Anto might well find himself facing a conviction.
jungleman
It is an assault if you bring about an apprehension of physical contact.
WhoAreYa
Thanks jungleman – that is what I am trying to ascertain
What is the legal definition (was too lazy to look it up)?
I saw nothing about being held against one’s will Anne.
But I agree that to reasonable people it appears an implied threat.
The question is when does a threat have to be more than implied to be actionable? Or does it just have to be an ‘apprehension’ as jungleman says? If so how do you prove it? A ‘reasonable person’ test?
All the good ones fly south for winter
There are no laws in the love jungle Anne, take heed and thread carefully.
Antos a big puff. I knicked a KitKat off them and he told me ma.
Mani
I’m sure that didn’t even require a phonecall.
Booze filth shocker
Pillow talk
Haroo von Haroo
I presume anto is the large bouncer at the door. Don’t they sell dvd’s there too.
Am i still On this Island
The one with the spider web and tri colour on his neck! This shop and it’s owners Tony have well established connections with a certain All Ireland political party he was also done for tax evasion recently
Anto
I know where you live.
WhoAreYa
Look Anne! It’s Anto
illuminati16
Dublin is full of antos and decos, can’t move for the howiyas
Nessy
“€5 for a bag of crap” at Halloween! Love that shop
i don’t know what’s scarier – anto, or the fact his employers do not care for punctuation.
Shoplifters Please.
Note it is our policy not to call.
The Garda Anto will deal with you.
Anto will love you long time
Yes, rape. Hilarious as a punishment for shoplifting or just hillarious. YOU decide.
I dunno. You’re the one who saw ‘love’ and thought ‘rape’.
Unless Anto is a slender Vietnameese woman who is willingly working in a brothel and specialises in punishment beetings for shoplifters with her cat of nine tails, then yes, this is a rape joke.
I remember my first punishment beeting. You’d think a radish couldn’t do much damage but I was in bits after.
This is not a rape song.
This is not a rape song.
Here, refresh your memory and stop making stuff up. No ‘rape’ Casey, so no rape joke just your projection and refusal to see what is actually going on in the scene.
Here it is…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12tce-THLUE
@clampers
Depends how you look at it, sure in that scene it’s an offer of sex for money (albeit relatively little money) not rape, but throughout the film there is a very clear analogy between guns and penises e.g. “this is my rifle this is my gun”. In the beginning of first section of the film Joker expresses a desire to kill, in the beginning of the second he expresses a desire to have sex, in the final scene he achieves his metamorphosis into a killer/f***er devoid of humanity by shooting a woman/girl not unlike the prostitute who approaches him in that scene.
The prostitute and soldier are analogous, neither, with their humanity intact, would do what they do of their own free will, some fundamental humanity must be stripped away before they can do so. You could argue that process of what the machine of war does to people could be viewed as a kind of rape (it’s something more than a violence, it is not just something that is done to you, it is also something taken away).
@casey
*formating
Just hilarious.
Casey! Casey! You’re the divil!
No-one mentioned rape Casey (except you)
Rather Anto will engage in a meaningful, deeply personal and intimate relationship with you in legal exchange for a good, service or favour. A “girlfriend experience’ perhaps.
Northsiders take note. This is how we roll on our side of the Liffey .
I think it’s against the law to hold someone against their will, so unless Anto plans on wishing well on your merry way, they’d be best off calling the guards.
At least Anto can’t drag you to court.
He makes you fall in love with him then he breaks your heart. Compared to this a kicking seems favourable.
Excuse me for I have something in my eye.
Gosh, bet their faces are red. Inadvertently flirting with lawbreaking! They’ll never live this down!
Isn’t it against the law to rob things?
Yes, but Anto is not the law.
He’s not pretending to be. He just has a keen interest in meeting people.
He’ll be meeting lots of new people in prison if any laws are broken while Anto is ‘dealing’ with you.. And that sign is not doing him any favours.
Is it strictly speaking an offence to threaten personal injury – (though Anto hasn’t done that, he’s merely said he will negotiate with you)
I think it is an offense only to threaten someone with personal injury if you want something in return, up to then it is free speech – depending on context of course, if it is a big man who is threatening a slender person down a dark alley.
I don’t think dealing with someone in a well-lit, public space will necessarily be automatically construed as ‘intent to cause serious bodily harm’ but I stand to be corrected. Otherwise for example horseplay and shouldering, sledging etc on a pitch during a game would be an offence as well.
he’s merely said he will negotiate with you
Eh, where do you see that?
The sign says Anto will deal with you.
Regardless of a well lit, public space, if you do not desire to be ‘dealt’ with by Anto, and you are held against your will, Anto might well find himself facing a conviction.
It is an assault if you bring about an apprehension of physical contact.
Thanks jungleman – that is what I am trying to ascertain
What is the legal definition (was too lazy to look it up)?
I saw nothing about being held against one’s will Anne.
But I agree that to reasonable people it appears an implied threat.
The question is when does a threat have to be more than implied to be actionable? Or does it just have to be an ‘apprehension’ as jungleman says? If so how do you prove it? A ‘reasonable person’ test?
There are no laws in the love jungle Anne, take heed and thread carefully.
lol. Ye’re all wired to the moon..
Antos a big puff. I knicked a KitKat off them and he told me ma.
I’m sure that didn’t even require a phonecall.
Pillow talk
I presume anto is the large bouncer at the door. Don’t they sell dvd’s there too.
The one with the spider web and tri colour on his neck! This shop and it’s owners Tony have well established connections with a certain All Ireland political party he was also done for tax evasion recently
I know where you live.
Look Anne! It’s Anto
Dublin is full of antos and decos, can’t move for the howiyas
“€5 for a bag of crap” at Halloween! Love that shop