https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfSod7DRwE8&app=desktop
Michael and Barnes.
By Michael with drawings by Barnes.
Louise Hannon writes:
A poignant love story with a twist for the Marriage Referendum ’15.
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What ever happened to transcription?
So much dignity in that. Contrast it with the ugliness and crassness to come from the No campaign.
Using emotion to confuse the issue. No one is contesting the rights of gays to love and be together. What’s at issue here is whether that union should formally be classified as “marriage”. If we’re going to have a sensible debate, at least lets be honest about the actual issue at stake.
We want the same rights as straight people, thats it
I walk… a crooked line… *hic*
sh-sh-shhhing it with me, I walk the *hic* the-the line…..
*staggers off content with self*
*hic*
That is what is at stake here, the right to be “normal” couple
“What’s at issue here is whether that union should formally be classified as “marriage”.”
You are wrong about that, what it’s actually about is whether gay people will have the same rights that accrue to straight people when they marry.
“No one is contesting the rights of gays to love and be together.”
Hate to break it to you but there are lots of people contesting this.
Who?
Have you any gay friends? If so, ask any of them whether they’ve encountered any ‘contest’ to their right to love and be together. It’s pretty pathetic that you’re attempting to deny this.
he’s a troll, don’t mind him
Why shouldn’t gay unions be formally classified as marriage? Marriage has very strong social and emotional connotations and is important to many many people both gay and straight.
At issue here is whether gay couples are to have their relationships viewed by the state in the same light as hetrosexual couples. If we are to be fobbed off with civil partnership, or some other makey uppy term, it implies that our relationships are inferior and not worthy of the same respect and rights granted to those who are straight. I don’t agree with that situation.
The proposal is to take gender out of the marriage equation.
“Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction
as to their sex.”
http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2015/515/b515d.pdf#page=6
Focus on whatever you want, but equality is the issue here.
This is an incredibly sad story about losing a loved one and I am firmly on the yes side but I think the video is not really relevant to the campaign for marriage equality itself. It seems like it is just tugging at the heart strings to sway undecided or no voters? In the video, they never actually referenced any issues about their want to marry or how they should be allowed to.
It is extremely relevant. If you aren’t married, you can’t be next of kin (not sure what the deal is with civil partners). And if you aren’t next of kin, you can’t make decisions on your beloved’s healthcare should they need you to.
He does not mention any next of kin issues. They should have. Hence, I believe the video missed a trick and many relevant links and reference points to the referendum.
You know what Des, maybe they did. But who really cares? Its a lovely story of two people who fell in love and who deserve to be able to marry the person they love like I did.
Agreed.
It’s also necessary to introduce a lot of middle Ireland to a real-life gay person (albeit on screen) – that it’s not a great conspiracy to destroy the traditional family unit, rather just a bunch of ordinary people looking to get on with ordinary lives.
+1
I think it is a little archaic to think that rural people or middle ireland do not understand that gay people are just normal people like your friend or neighbour or relative. The issues most have are based on their (however misguided) religious and cultural beliefs.
I think the video should stick to the facts. There is inequality, the referendum aims to correct this. All people should be treated equally and consenting adults allowed to live how they choose, regardless of your religious or cultural viewpoint.
I don’t mean that in a pejorative or derogatory sense. I’m pretty sure that my mother or father have never knowingly met a gay person. That’s just how it is. Fortunately, they’re pretty cool – and are both firmly committed to voting ‘yes’. I’m also pretty sure there are lots of others of their generation that don’t knowingly know any gay people either. The danger is that a lot of the sh1te coming from the likes of the Iona Institute subtly aims to demonise gays – immoral, twisted, latent paedophiles looking to team up and adopt children so they can bugger them to their heart’s content. A film like this shows that evil agenda up for what it is in a beautiful and dignified way.
That first line hits the nail on the head. Like the TCDSU video encouraging you to call your granny it’s a bit assumptive.
Thanks for the lovely comments. This video originally timed at forty minutes. I had to cut it to ten. All the points above were made regarding Marriage but unfortunately i had to leave out an enormous amount but still catch the essence of the story .
Well done, Louise!
I dunno, I think it’s all relevant. It’s about a human relationship everyone can relate to – I don’t think he’d sound much different beyond pronouns if the partner he lost had been a woman. Love is love kind of thing.