‘sup?
This evening.
Grangorman, Dublin
Simon Geraghty writes:
I see Grangegorman squat has enlisted an Autobot for defence
Update:
Annexbis writes:
In the door of local residents in Grangegorman [Dublin] this evening
Yesterday: See How Their Garden Grows
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ah… the aul Kings of Concrete robot. I was wondering where I left that.
Our Squat is our home, we’re not leaving?
Isn’t this kind of like saying ‘This money from the vault that noone was using is my money, I’m not giving it back’?
Yes
I actually live (and pay rent) on this road, you should see how manic and hostile these people are when they’re not trying to gain positive publicity online.
They occupied a set of buildings that they have no claim to, no neighbors gave a shit as they didn’t make much of a ruckus until this week, they had a good run of it, they got two years of rent free, utilities free, existence in one of the most expensive cities in the western world.
Really though, it’s time to find somewhere to live legally, maybe pack up and head home to Mam and Dad for awhile.
I suppose it doesn’t grow the economy.
when they’re finished with him maybe he could be redeployed to finish off IW/Siteselfserv/DOB
I know everyone’s ambitions and motivations are different in life but when you’re a functioning adult in a position where you have a degree of choice about how you live what makes you choose to live in an abandoned building?
And I’m not being facetious just genuinely trying to gain an insight or understanding…
Look at where many of the grown and educated adults in this country who got jobs and mortgages like they were supposed to ended up, then think about how obviously sensible the obviously sensible choices we make are, and what ambitions and motivations led to those outcomes. A millionaire developer and a bunch of squatters in the middle of eviction storms within a week or two of each other. Between those extremes we have an entire country desperate for a change in the way we do things but utterly terrified of changing the way we do things. So what makes you think the people who made the choices that brought them to this confrontation are any better than the choices that crashed an entire economy and saddled thousands with crippling debts?
I think you mistook my reasons for asking the question, as I said I wasn’t being facetious or derogatory either, just trying to gain an understanding. No part of me thinks one is better than the other.
I didn’t think you were, and neither was I, it’s just that when thinking about these situations it’s sometimes useful to challenge your own assumptions.
The free utilities they are somehow availing of probably help
My guess is they’re ‘opting out’ of society (and not paying for stuff society provides them for free). Part of me is envious, part of me annoyed.
Yeah I think that’s why I’m having a problem getting my head around it, should they be admired for their self sustenance or the looked at in the opposite way for not being ‘productive members of society’?
I’m the same. I’m sick of being governed by a grossly incompetent/untrustworthy government, sick of being taxed senseless, sick of paying insanely high rents, sick of basically being taken advantage of for being a taxpaying good citizen – so I’d like to go all ‘Into the Wild’ like these guys, but I do love a good box set so that won’t happen. I just wonder how ‘self-sufficient’ they are… like are they using free utilities as implied here? If they work, do they pay taxes? If not do they take welfare?
Aside from all these issues, the one big thing that shone through for me is how different people are treated by the guards and State (I’ve seen it first-hand, all because of my address). I didn’t see too many guards use peperspray and have batons at the ready in Gorse Hill for the O’Donnells
“…should they be admired for their self sustenance”
They are the opposite of self-sustaining.
Poverty isn’t a choice…? And I’m sure it’s pretty cold sleeping rough…
Well is that the reality here, are they living this way because they’re struggling? They’re not being portrayed that way in all reports.
Specifically speaking about people in this squat now not people generally sleeping rough…
That’s just brilliant.
Does the D7bot have a name?
Hope he, or maybe she, stays.
Optimus subprime
Repped!
Ayyyy :D
Hahah :-)
“Mount a defense”?
What possible defense?!
The NERVE of these people. They got to stay for free in the place for two years because nobody particularly minded at the time. The owners want it back and now they think they can just stay? Did they really think they could just STAY in someone else’s property illegally long-term?
They sound so crazy, I’m surprised the Land League aren’t all over it.
But they have a circus space!
Well they do say they have no specialist legal knowledge so maybe they don’t realise that they can’t just stay there.
They seemed to have plenty of legal knowledge when it came to questioning the legality of the attempted eviction though.
at some point homeless people looking at empty buildings start to figure out “maybe I don’t have to be homeless any more”. Dublin has been full of empty buildings for far too long especially seeing as everyone in the city is paying crazy rents. A lot of these buildings are empty due to some crazy financial problem, ie. the owner hasn’t the money to redevelop and knows they would lose money if they sold it as is, so these buildings stay in limbo for years benefiting nobody. How long was that complex derelict before it was squatted? 15 years. Really you want to defend that?
I’m not defending anything more than the buildings owner’s right to have the squatters removed.
i wouldn’t blame anyone for squatting. it’s always more ethical to squat a vacant property than to see it sit idle, especially when property prices and rents are so high. vacant properties being are blight on communities – they attract anti-social behaviours, rough sleeping and unsafe drug use which in turn drives property prices down locally. so all the posters who sniff at the grangegorman squatters because ye see them as nothing more than parasites – please gain a little perspective. besides, thousands of properties around the country were built on squatted plots through adverse or vacant possession – i wouldn’t be surprised if there was a little squatter in most of our ancestries.
Is the place privately owned by an individual or owned by a bank?