Less than £4bn to build 40 hospitals – that Boris fella sure is great.
Then again, as Varadkar is in contrition mode, maybe he will spill the beans on the truth why the NCH went ahead.
Alexander the Great
Mr Incredible with yet another rip roaring political exclusive! Where does he get the time?
GiggidyGoo
Charger must have called you early. Did he leave any beans for you? I thought you’d be Tahiti or somewhere like that?
EPat Mustard
Bang of B9 off Alexander.
Papi
Oh, Alexander the grate is b9 Mary never Wong. At least charger is funny.
Bitnbox
Giggidy is right though with the Daily Express scoop. Look at the benefits of Brexit – the UK is going to be firing on all cylinders come this January. The chains have been slung off and the EU will no longer be able to suffocate the NHS. We will be looking on in jealously as the English health care system just gets better and better. Boris is dismantling all the things that are holding the UK back – unlike our politicians, he keeps his promises.
Brother Barnabas
except for his promises around international agreements
The EU is not responsible for strangling the progress of the NHS, unless you’re living in another dimension populated only by absolute eejits…
Take a look at the history of the tories and privatisation for basic level, stating the bleedin obvious fact…
More importantly, how did you manage to cross over and communicate with us?..
Quantum distortion?.. Tell us more… We might be able to find a way to reach you and save you all…
:-J
Bitnbox
The recent legislation to bypass the so called Withdrawal Agreement was a masterstroke by Cummings, playing the EU at its own game and what’s more, as Giggidy or another I think previously pointed out, totally in conformity with the international law. I have looked into this. Clarifying supplementary safety net legislation is allowed.
The EU has always wanted the NHS to fail by sucking up funds destined for it. Boris is giving this back to the UK health system. Brexit is a win win for the UK. Ireland could also thrive by listening to Hermann Kelly who has worked very closely with Farage and is as clever as Cummings. He knows the inside track and is one of the good guys.
Ireland could also thrive by listening to Hermann Kelly
That should come with a Health Warning lads
Virtual sanitiser and face masks will be needed before logging into the ‘Sheet if this stuff starts spreading
I was only joking before, perhaps a bit flippant or harsh but now, to be honest..
You’re spouting freedom party nonsense and promoting the ideaology of fa(cade)rage and that other clown, cummings as some kind of political masterminds…
Soon to get his cum-upp-mings is a wannabe carbon copy of Vladislav Surkov, Putin’s right hand man who helped him specifically in creating a destabilised psychological state of fear and confusion through propaganda and aysymetric warfare both psychological and physical, internally and externally in the great land of mother Rusky.. and in the minds of every other geo-political think-tank of foreign policy in every other nation around the planet.
The demented lunatic soon to get his cum-upp-mings is nothing more than a motivated, greedy, narcissistic, deluded, pseudo intellectual opportunist..
The only thing you can admire about him is his level of treacherous, treasonous, inhumane egotistical greed combined with a level of scientology, religious /cult, cia lsd/manson family political persuasion, the like of which the sleepy-west has never had to deal with before..
Fa(cade)rage is just another greedy opportunist, the right clown when the circus came to town.. a likeable personality(if you’re a backwards thinking eejit whose easily led astray) at the right time who made a name and profile stating the bleedin’ obvious about the EU’s failings..
If you don’t know or see this then you are at beginner level understanding of the scenario..
-But don’t be disuaded, I’m only one step ahead of you so don’t lose any spirit over it, in searching for the truth..
I don’t know who is more deluded, him above or you thinking that the tories actually won the last election without engaging in a colossol amount of corruption on all sides from all possible angles…
A very tory coup…
:-J
Formerly known as @ireland.com
The UK Independent showing Trump for what he is – a complete idiot. Tis no wonder there are over 200K dead in the USA. Unfortunately, many more will die before a competent person replaces him.
Rosette of Sirius
I’m really interested to see now what will happen with the SCOTUS hearings now. It sounds as if Trump personally is in for a very rough October. Lord knows how many old men and women have been infected in his bubble let alone everyone else….
Birdie
I listened the guardians daily digest podcast yesterday about the importance of winning Florida. It was so sad to hear how divisive the elderly have become over there and kinda funny too… trump supporters in golf buggy’s giving the finger to Biden supporters (all in an retirement home).
I wonder will the US ever recover from this time… and if he gets back in, goodnight.
…just heard on the radio that Trump has been transferred to a military hospital…nothing trivial I hope…
goldenbrown
it’s a total rouse. he is now now doing what he does best – grabbing control of the narrative and twisting it to order
now with the Boris hospital drama and some miracle recovery to follow a couple of weeks before the election…probably with some hocuspocusquine thrown in for good measure lol.
nobody now dare say a bad word about him, commentators are already tippeytoeing around him, he gets a sicknote for the upcoming debate and when he does recover it’ll be all-american superhero time – he’ll be hailed as everything from the chosen one to Super Don! betcha the artwork lads at the T-shirt shops are already at work….Trump flying thru the air in his SuperTrump outfit biffing the C19 spiky chinese spheroid inot submission
Biden hasn’t a chance, Trump wins this election easily now
Janet, dreams of big guns
I agree
GiggidyGoo
That’s the run of it alright. Paragraph 2 you have it spot on I think. A ‘I told you so’ moment.
Charger Salmons
You probably think the moon landings were faked as well.
It’s an indictment of the Irish education system that it churns out so many idiots like you who believe in this nonsense.
Janet, dreams of big guns
funny everytime you post a little english voice whispers in my ear
” another child left behind ”
;)
Charger Salmons
It’s English not english.
Another wasted education.
No wonder there isn’t a single Irish university in the world’s top 100.
Janet, dreams of big guns
no, that is intentional, it is meant to reflect the decline of england :)
GiggidyGoo
Yourself and your apprentice Alexander Salmons hitting the 8.8 on the Sure Have Inferiority Troubles meter regularly.
Must be difficult to have two in the one-bed, one ring camping gas stove, gobbling beans all day. Stir crazy perhaps.
Surely there are UK websites for you to visit and comment on. LOL
Charger Salmons
LOL ?
I didn’t think anyone over the age of 10 or an IQ of similar number still uses that.
How very quaint.
Rosette of Sirius
Careful now, charger’s at the Whiskas again….
GiggidyGoo
Sounds, and smells a lot better than bean farts.
Papi
He’s so upset that he got his little bottom spanked, oh poor cheaper sandwich,
Charger must have opened a large tin this morning.
Nigel
Boris didn’t get a bounce from catching covid – he was already high in the polls and had just got a large electoral majority. Trump never had either of those things. He’s on tape as deliberately downplaying the virus, has publicly made a score of statements dismissing it in ridiculous terms, and the death toll is still rising. If this is a strategy to keep the focus on his handling of the pandemic it’s poorly thought through. Furthermore, he and the First Lady are getting the very best health care in the world at taxpayer’s expense – everybody else who has paid more taxes than this billionaire is at the mercy of the horrible insurance industry, especially if they, like him, have pre-existing conditions that Republicans have been stripping protections from. Nobody is prepared to believe any official statements coming from the WH, underlining the dishonesty of this administration, and the astonishing hypocrisy of demanding civility from his critics after over four years of him setting the tone is sickening. So, no, I don’t think this is the devastating master stroke you seem to think it is.
Nigel
The more we learn about it, the more it becomes a lesson in hubris and arrogance, and one of the rare examples so far during his first term where that hubris and arrogance has personal and direct negative consequences for Trump himself. He’s built a myth of being untouchable, of getting away with everything, no matter how openly he flouts convention and morality. Not any more.
‘These details of the Amy Coney Barrett super spreader ceremony baffle and infuriate me. I question the judgment of any adult who would act this recklessly. All these people should know better.’
Population USA 331.2 million
49.2 million are over 65.
Deaths 209,000 .
On above statistics the USA haven’t done too badly when you consider underlying conditions, obesity , asthma etc.
I think that WHO have failed far more than President Trump. I expected a decisive voice from WHO and they came across as clueless.
goldenbrown
yea, I don’t mean electioneering or parliament numbers, Boris has achieved almost unassailable control over parliament. Boris was getting battered at the time because he had initially decided to accede to the Cummings “herd immunity” theory. he was looking like a village idiot. then he got C19 and it was all sympathy and silencing of the growing noise around the idiocy of said approach. U-turn neatly executed. poor Boris.
as for this particular performance I believe the audience are not smart enough to work that out Nigel. they’ll do whatever their TV or Church tells ’em to do. there’s endless hay for GOP to make out of the unfolding “drama” a liferaft just when they need one.
Trump wins.
Nigel
Kate – I’d like to see Trump get up on the national stage after everything he’s said and done and try to make that case. I don’t think it will go down well from the guy who said ‘I don’t take any responsibility.’
goldenbrown – that seems like a completely different situation. I really don’t get this tendency to immediately cave in the face of Trump’s imagined genius.
Charger Salmons
Perceptive as ever Kate.
What people fail to realise is that the fault for much of the response towards Covid-19 in the USA lies at state level rather than federal government.
It is federal government’s job to provide funding and equipment which Trump did from the very outset.
The idea that hundreds of thousands of deaths can be laid at the door of the President is nonsense.If anything his decisive action over the pandemic has saved many lives.
Agreed on the WHO as well and while we’re at it where has the EU been throughout this crisis ?
It has taken them more than six months to get around to forumlating a policy for travel between member states while European carriers have been crying out for some leadership.
They’ve seemed more concerned about fixing a budget to ensure their fat-cat salaries and luxurious lifestyle in Brussels continue at our expense.
Thank goodness Blighty has left that shower.
goldenbrown
Nigel, I don’t imagine he’s a genius in the conventional sense, I think he’s a very cunning cockroach – personally he has clearly demonstrated over several decades now his abilities in the self-preservation dept. worse still he’s supported by some very clever strategists whom I believe would stoop to ANYTHING to ensure the continuance of the administration that will promote their conservative ideology. in their heads everything is game, because it’s a mission, there is no “fair”.
and if you’re looking for evidence of just how gullible the American voting public are you don’t have to look back very far, 4 years ago…needless to say :)
Nigel
‘the fault for much of the response towards Covid-19 in the USA lies at state level rather than federal government.’
Sure, if you blow right past Trump’s federal non-response, having disbanded the Federal Pandemic Team, not to mention Kushner and co channeling relief funds to cronies and equipment to states that voted for Trump while the Senate bailed out coporations that didn’t need bailing at and continue to block relief funding for anyone who isn’t a billionaire. Then there’s the tape where he admitted to downplaying the virus and allthe superspreader railles, and now the superspreader ceremony. Finally, Trump refusing to take responsibility and blaming everybody but himself is such a STRONG look in a leader, don’t you think?
Nigel
goldenbrown – if you think he’ll win because of voter supression and relentless blasts of toxic misinformation, rather than because he did (or didn’t) catch covid, then I agree. That’s why he won before, and if he wins again, that also will be the reason.
@goldenbrown, Ye exactly, pretty much 100% there..
Take advantage of any opportunity.. Any sign of real threat and over-react with dropping a proverbial bomb…
It was drumpf’s to lose anyway, the other half, dnc and the rest of the oligarchy already know this and the whole point of putting the worst losing candidate forward is just to raise maximum funds for themselves, maintain the status quo and keep the delusional pantomime alive for the rest of the serfs / plebs / eejits…. while funding the bonuses of the fake corporate media etc.
The third party option which is now a real possibility thanks to all the chaos, is the only way to break up the duopoly nightmare and find some pre-war balance of sanity again..
Bye, bye, your murican em-pie -re..
– It was well, both interesting and disturbing in equal measure while it lasted..
:-J
Nigel
‘The third party option which is now a real possibility’
This is pure fantasy, especially if you think tripping over yourself to hand victory to Trump and the Republicans is going to bring it about sooner and not reduce to even more of a pipe dream.
Nigel
‘the whole point of putting the worst losing candidate forward’
You mean the candidate that beat all the other candidates in the Primary process? That losing candidate? You’d have preferred one of the other candidates, one of the ones that lost to the ‘worst losing’ candidate?
George
Sure, a 74 year old man in hospital with Covid-19 due to total flouting of all public health advice just 4 weeks before an election and while people are already voting. Sounds like a winner!
SOQ
Professor of theoretical epidemiology- Sunetra Gupta – Once it reaches that endemic equilibrium life can return back to old normal
In this interview with Andrew Neil she criticises the UK projection figures because they are based on a virus which is new. when we know CoVid-19 has been around for quite a while- so some people are immune.
For context she states that in the UK there are 1000 people a week dying of flu and pneumonia at the moment. 10 minutes long.
I don’t think enough people are immune for it to matter. The epidemiologist on the Dunphy podcast this week stated that herd immunity doesn’t protect everyone from the virus, it just slows it down. I will continue to listen to the smart people, not the hurlers on the ditch.
Clampers Outside
That doesn’t contradict nor could be digested as a counter argument to SOQ’s.
One could easily agree with both of your points as presented.
SOQ
Professor of theoretical epidemiology Sunetra Gupta is a hurler on the ditch? She is one of the leading experts in the field of epidemiology but if you disagree then please point me to someone you do agree with- I have asked you for this before btw.
As for the immunity percentage, no one really knows but Sunetra ‘s opinion is it is around 80%. The problem is that T Cell tests are expensive and require a high level of lab skill to process but there certainly is a reason why it seems to peak at a certain percentage in each country or community.
Anyways, I look forward to you posting the names of a few “smart people” that we can have a look at.
Charger Salmons
He forms his views by listening to the Dunphy podcast.
That is all you need to know …
Bitnbox
Gupta is great. She is also challenging the lack of debate in the UK around 5G. There are specific likely health effects for some people and it can also be used as a form of enhanced covert surveillance. All she wants is a reasoned debate – same as with the plandemic – so we can get all the facts, before 5G is rolled out under our noses. Of course, what do we hear re 5G dangers here: SFA
benblack
three.ie switched on 5G last weekend – countrywide.
@benblack Saw that. Worrying indeed. I think this is test 5G. We’ll never hear of the effects of this for those who live near masts. Independent voices like Gupta who question this madness need to raise their voices even louder. You, me, SOQ and all those who know the real reasons for the quiet deployment of 5G need to wake the sleeping masses up.
millie madonna
You know they said the same thing about microwaves.
benblack
Actually, I was browsing for a 5G phone during the week.
Full disclosure, before you include me in any future group.
deluded
I still haven’t gotten over the 4G.
How many Gs are safe anyway?
Merkel hints ar room for maneuver. Are German and French exports to GB more important to these countries than the GFA. All will be revealed in due course
Charger Salmons
#theyhaveourbacksbutdontmentionthebondholders
Charger Salmons
#theyhaveourbacksbutdontmentionthebondholders
Clampers Outside
Anyone watching Sky Arts today…. 12 hrs (9.30am to 9.30pm) of ‘arty’ backdrop / scene setting for the TV series The Third Day.
Has a feel to it like the 60s TV series The Prisoner, or the movie The Wickerman…
Been watching an hour or more now and not a single bit of dialogue… really long slow shots… And weird ‘culty’ stuff going on…
It’s slow but intriguing.. I haven’t a clue what’s going on :)
Clampers Outside
Anyone watching Sky Arts…. 12 hrs (9.30am – 21.30) of ‘arty’ backdrop / scene setting for the series The Third Day.
Has a feel to it like the 60s TV series The Prisoner, or The Wickerman… Been watching an hour or more now and not a single bit of dialogue… really long slow shots… And weird ‘culty’ stuff going on…
It’s slow but intriguing.. I haven’t a clue what’s going on :)
I have to do a few comments or it will be blocked.
SOQ
You have pointed to a group of research scientists whom at this point do not appear to be making any substantial claims about CoVid-19 one way or the other? Their projects appear to be live so results won’t be know for some time- probably middle of next year in some cases.
Although I can see that several are connected to WHO and on advisory boards, but I still have no idea what their opinions are on government lock down strategies. .
SOQ –
What about ‘Long Covid’ and other long term health impacts that survivors can suffer from – Is that not relevant to how seriously we take the virus?
Doesn’t the capacity of hospitals, ICU, medical staff, play a major factor in the response, not just the number who die?
SOQ
As for this link- there appears to be an emphasis on modelling which is exactly what Sunetra Guptain in the UK is criticising. I don’t know about Australia but in UK and Ireland, modellers have consistently got it wrong by a factor of between 10 and 20- and they are still at it.
As for long haul CoVid-19- is it any worse or better than flu and pneumonia? Is it more common than long haul flu and pneumonia? I really don’t know the answer to those questions- do you?
I haven’t seen any studies to indicate one way or another but there seems to be a reluctance to do ANY comparative analysis between the three diseases which is why Sunetra is repeatedly raising the flu and pneumonia fatality stats.
Of course hospital capacity is a factor but not at our current levels of hospitalisations and ICU admissions. If there is a spike then everyone will understand why a lock down is needed but we are not ‘flattening a curve’ here in Ireland now, we are needlessly wrecking the economy- and people’s lives. .
Lilly
Haha, Brendan O’Connor displaying a sense of humour playing out his show today with Fernando.
When you get your pocket money, do you go straight for the cans or the batter burgers?
Serious question.
Q Celt
The article on Harry and Megan is also fun
GiggidyGoo
From The Examiner (breakingnews.ie) I read, in relation to the LC debacle
“Ms Foley explained that the error was found as a result of an independent assessment conducted by Polymetrica International, identifying an error in one line of coding out of a total of 50,000 lines.”
Now, read that again…. independent assessment conducted by Polymetrika International .
That’s saying that the code wasn’t written by Polymetrika isn’t it? So, who/what company wrote the code? Why the secrecy? Where has McHugh spend our money?
Lilly
I’d say that’s an inaccurate report because I distinctly remember hearing during the week that an American company has been brought in to review the code.
GiggidyGoo
Maybe there were two reviewers of the code. The initial agreement with Polymetrika sounded cheap for what was required.
As a matter of fact, the software is free on one of the Polymetrika websites, so maybe some brainbox in the Dept. Of Education got it, used it, and then got Fernando to do a check, after the fact.
This story has a long way to go.
Bitnbox
Wow Giggidy. You are a flipping Oracle. This is obviously bang on the money. Looking
forward to the next instalment. We’ll smother them in truth!
Cian
Some software is free on Polymetrika websites. Some of their software needs licences.
We can speculate all we want. But is all it is – speculation.
Alexander the Great
I am on the edge of my seat literally slavering at the thought of Giggidy’s next incredible insight
Next week: Giggidy blows the lid open on the conspiracy at the heart of the illegal dog breeding industry
ce
Can’t wait for the Übermensch that is Jim O’Callaghan to take over the country and make absolutely everything better…
I don’t think it’s possibly, confidentiality etc. etc. but I’d love – and think it would be incredibly beneficial – to live stream a NPHET meeting, so people could see what they actually have to do and how they do it.
In lieu of that, there’s always comment sections, large international project engineering consultants, and the YouTube videos our mates send us to help show the way through these difficult times
I wonder, did the nazi’s ever dress up as british royals when they were having fun in their private sex-dungeon bunkers?..
:-J
George
I don’t see how there’d be 1metre between people seated in those pods so they’re only suitable if everyone is from the same household otherwise they are just petri dishes.
benblack
*chuckles*
Charger Salmons
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Papi
Good point.
Charger Salmons
Morgan Stanley begins looking for a major new London headquarters, countering fears the coronavirus crisis will crush demand for office space in the world’s financial capitals
And not moving to Paris or Frankfurt ?
Less than £4bn to build 40 hospitals – that Boris fella sure is great.
Then again, as Varadkar is in contrition mode, maybe he will spill the beans on the truth why the NCH went ahead.
Mr Incredible with yet another rip roaring political exclusive! Where does he get the time?
Charger must have called you early. Did he leave any beans for you? I thought you’d be Tahiti or somewhere like that?
Bang of B9 off Alexander.
Oh, Alexander the grate is b9 Mary never Wong. At least charger is funny.
Giggidy is right though with the Daily Express scoop. Look at the benefits of Brexit – the UK is going to be firing on all cylinders come this January. The chains have been slung off and the EU will no longer be able to suffocate the NHS. We will be looking on in jealously as the English health care system just gets better and better. Boris is dismantling all the things that are holding the UK back – unlike our politicians, he keeps his promises.
except for his promises around international agreements
The EU is not responsible for strangling the progress of the NHS, unless you’re living in another dimension populated only by absolute eejits…
Take a look at the history of the tories and privatisation for basic level, stating the bleedin obvious fact…
More importantly, how did you manage to cross over and communicate with us?..
Quantum distortion?.. Tell us more… We might be able to find a way to reach you and save you all…
:-J
The recent legislation to bypass the so called Withdrawal Agreement was a masterstroke by Cummings, playing the EU at its own game and what’s more, as Giggidy or another I think previously pointed out, totally in conformity with the international law. I have looked into this. Clarifying supplementary safety net legislation is allowed.
The EU has always wanted the NHS to fail by sucking up funds destined for it. Boris is giving this back to the UK health system. Brexit is a win win for the UK. Ireland could also thrive by listening to Hermann Kelly who has worked very closely with Farage and is as clever as Cummings. He knows the inside track and is one of the good guys.
Am I seeing things?
Ireland could also thrive by listening to Hermann Kelly
That should come with a Health Warning lads
Virtual sanitiser and face masks will be needed before logging into the ‘Sheet if this stuff starts spreading
I was only joking before, perhaps a bit flippant or harsh but now, to be honest..
You’re spouting freedom party nonsense and promoting the ideaology of fa(cade)rage and that other clown, cummings as some kind of political masterminds…
Soon to get his cum-upp-mings is a wannabe carbon copy of Vladislav Surkov, Putin’s right hand man who helped him specifically in creating a destabilised psychological state of fear and confusion through propaganda and aysymetric warfare both psychological and physical, internally and externally in the great land of mother Rusky.. and in the minds of every other geo-political think-tank of foreign policy in every other nation around the planet.
The demented lunatic soon to get his cum-upp-mings is nothing more than a motivated, greedy, narcissistic, deluded, pseudo intellectual opportunist..
The only thing you can admire about him is his level of treacherous, treasonous, inhumane egotistical greed combined with a level of scientology, religious /cult, cia lsd/manson family political persuasion, the like of which the sleepy-west has never had to deal with before..
Fa(cade)rage is just another greedy opportunist, the right clown when the circus came to town.. a likeable personality(if you’re a backwards thinking eejit whose easily led astray) at the right time who made a name and profile stating the bleedin’ obvious about the EU’s failings..
If you don’t know or see this then you are at beginner level understanding of the scenario..
-But don’t be disuaded, I’m only one step ahead of you so don’t lose any spirit over it, in searching for the truth..
Beginner +1 on this issue…
:-J
PARKLIFE !
I don’t know who is more deluded, him above or you thinking that the tories actually won the last election without engaging in a colossol amount of corruption on all sides from all possible angles…
A very tory coup…
:-J
The UK Independent showing Trump for what he is – a complete idiot. Tis no wonder there are over 200K dead in the USA. Unfortunately, many more will die before a competent person replaces him.
I’m really interested to see now what will happen with the SCOTUS hearings now. It sounds as if Trump personally is in for a very rough October. Lord knows how many old men and women have been infected in his bubble let alone everyone else….
I listened the guardians daily digest podcast yesterday about the importance of winning Florida. It was so sad to hear how divisive the elderly have become over there and kinda funny too… trump supporters in golf buggy’s giving the finger to Biden supporters (all in an retirement home).
I wonder will the US ever recover from this time… and if he gets back in, goodnight.
Yeah, they did a great front page spread.
Which God, david?
What did she come out with?
…just heard on the radio that Trump has been transferred to a military hospital…nothing trivial I hope…
it’s a total rouse. he is now now doing what he does best – grabbing control of the narrative and twisting it to order
now with the Boris hospital drama and some miracle recovery to follow a couple of weeks before the election…probably with some hocuspocusquine thrown in for good measure lol.
nobody now dare say a bad word about him, commentators are already tippeytoeing around him, he gets a sicknote for the upcoming debate and when he does recover it’ll be all-american superhero time – he’ll be hailed as everything from the chosen one to Super Don! betcha the artwork lads at the T-shirt shops are already at work….Trump flying thru the air in his SuperTrump outfit biffing the C19 spiky chinese spheroid inot submission
Biden hasn’t a chance, Trump wins this election easily now
I agree
That’s the run of it alright. Paragraph 2 you have it spot on I think. A ‘I told you so’ moment.
You probably think the moon landings were faked as well.
It’s an indictment of the Irish education system that it churns out so many idiots like you who believe in this nonsense.
funny everytime you post a little english voice whispers in my ear
” another child left behind ”
;)
It’s English not english.
Another wasted education.
No wonder there isn’t a single Irish university in the world’s top 100.
no, that is intentional, it is meant to reflect the decline of england :)
Yourself and your apprentice Alexander Salmons hitting the 8.8 on the Sure Have Inferiority Troubles meter regularly.
Must be difficult to have two in the one-bed, one ring camping gas stove, gobbling beans all day. Stir crazy perhaps.
Surely there are UK websites for you to visit and comment on. LOL
LOL ?
I didn’t think anyone over the age of 10 or an IQ of similar number still uses that.
How very quaint.
Careful now, charger’s at the Whiskas again….
Sounds, and smells a lot better than bean farts.
He’s so upset that he got his little bottom spanked, oh poor cheaper sandwich,
Did somebody say moon landings?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Psa4RhJHuPg
Charger must have opened a large tin this morning.
Boris didn’t get a bounce from catching covid – he was already high in the polls and had just got a large electoral majority. Trump never had either of those things. He’s on tape as deliberately downplaying the virus, has publicly made a score of statements dismissing it in ridiculous terms, and the death toll is still rising. If this is a strategy to keep the focus on his handling of the pandemic it’s poorly thought through. Furthermore, he and the First Lady are getting the very best health care in the world at taxpayer’s expense – everybody else who has paid more taxes than this billionaire is at the mercy of the horrible insurance industry, especially if they, like him, have pre-existing conditions that Republicans have been stripping protections from. Nobody is prepared to believe any official statements coming from the WH, underlining the dishonesty of this administration, and the astonishing hypocrisy of demanding civility from his critics after over four years of him setting the tone is sickening. So, no, I don’t think this is the devastating master stroke you seem to think it is.
The more we learn about it, the more it becomes a lesson in hubris and arrogance, and one of the rare examples so far during his first term where that hubris and arrogance has personal and direct negative consequences for Trump himself. He’s built a myth of being untouchable, of getting away with everything, no matter how openly he flouts convention and morality. Not any more.
‘These details of the Amy Coney Barrett super spreader ceremony baffle and infuriate me. I question the judgment of any adult who would act this recklessly. All these people should know better.’
https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1312197863363866624
Catching covid at the start of the outbreak, like Boris did, and catching covid after over 200,000 dead are two very different propositions.
Population USA 331.2 million
49.2 million are over 65.
Deaths 209,000 .
On above statistics the USA haven’t done too badly when you consider underlying conditions, obesity , asthma etc.
I think that WHO have failed far more than President Trump. I expected a decisive voice from WHO and they came across as clueless.
yea, I don’t mean electioneering or parliament numbers, Boris has achieved almost unassailable control over parliament. Boris was getting battered at the time because he had initially decided to accede to the Cummings “herd immunity” theory. he was looking like a village idiot. then he got C19 and it was all sympathy and silencing of the growing noise around the idiocy of said approach. U-turn neatly executed. poor Boris.
as for this particular performance I believe the audience are not smart enough to work that out Nigel. they’ll do whatever their TV or Church tells ’em to do. there’s endless hay for GOP to make out of the unfolding “drama” a liferaft just when they need one.
Trump wins.
Kate – I’d like to see Trump get up on the national stage after everything he’s said and done and try to make that case. I don’t think it will go down well from the guy who said ‘I don’t take any responsibility.’
goldenbrown – that seems like a completely different situation. I really don’t get this tendency to immediately cave in the face of Trump’s imagined genius.
Perceptive as ever Kate.
What people fail to realise is that the fault for much of the response towards Covid-19 in the USA lies at state level rather than federal government.
It is federal government’s job to provide funding and equipment which Trump did from the very outset.
The idea that hundreds of thousands of deaths can be laid at the door of the President is nonsense.If anything his decisive action over the pandemic has saved many lives.
Agreed on the WHO as well and while we’re at it where has the EU been throughout this crisis ?
It has taken them more than six months to get around to forumlating a policy for travel between member states while European carriers have been crying out for some leadership.
They’ve seemed more concerned about fixing a budget to ensure their fat-cat salaries and luxurious lifestyle in Brussels continue at our expense.
Thank goodness Blighty has left that shower.
Nigel, I don’t imagine he’s a genius in the conventional sense, I think he’s a very cunning cockroach – personally he has clearly demonstrated over several decades now his abilities in the self-preservation dept. worse still he’s supported by some very clever strategists whom I believe would stoop to ANYTHING to ensure the continuance of the administration that will promote their conservative ideology. in their heads everything is game, because it’s a mission, there is no “fair”.
and if you’re looking for evidence of just how gullible the American voting public are you don’t have to look back very far, 4 years ago…needless to say :)
‘the fault for much of the response towards Covid-19 in the USA lies at state level rather than federal government.’
Sure, if you blow right past Trump’s federal non-response, having disbanded the Federal Pandemic Team, not to mention Kushner and co channeling relief funds to cronies and equipment to states that voted for Trump while the Senate bailed out coporations that didn’t need bailing at and continue to block relief funding for anyone who isn’t a billionaire. Then there’s the tape where he admitted to downplaying the virus and allthe superspreader railles, and now the superspreader ceremony. Finally, Trump refusing to take responsibility and blaming everybody but himself is such a STRONG look in a leader, don’t you think?
goldenbrown – if you think he’ll win because of voter supression and relentless blasts of toxic misinformation, rather than because he did (or didn’t) catch covid, then I agree. That’s why he won before, and if he wins again, that also will be the reason.
+another 4
:(
@goldenbrown, Ye exactly, pretty much 100% there..
Take advantage of any opportunity.. Any sign of real threat and over-react with dropping a proverbial bomb…
It was drumpf’s to lose anyway, the other half, dnc and the rest of the oligarchy already know this and the whole point of putting the worst losing candidate forward is just to raise maximum funds for themselves, maintain the status quo and keep the delusional pantomime alive for the rest of the serfs / plebs / eejits…. while funding the bonuses of the fake corporate media etc.
The third party option which is now a real possibility thanks to all the chaos, is the only way to break up the duopoly nightmare and find some pre-war balance of sanity again..
Bye, bye, your murican em-pie -re..
– It was well, both interesting and disturbing in equal measure while it lasted..
:-J
‘The third party option which is now a real possibility’
This is pure fantasy, especially if you think tripping over yourself to hand victory to Trump and the Republicans is going to bring it about sooner and not reduce to even more of a pipe dream.
‘the whole point of putting the worst losing candidate forward’
You mean the candidate that beat all the other candidates in the Primary process? That losing candidate? You’d have preferred one of the other candidates, one of the ones that lost to the ‘worst losing’ candidate?
Sure, a 74 year old man in hospital with Covid-19 due to total flouting of all public health advice just 4 weeks before an election and while people are already voting. Sounds like a winner!
Professor of theoretical epidemiology- Sunetra Gupta – Once it reaches that endemic equilibrium life can return back to old normal
In this interview with Andrew Neil she criticises the UK projection figures because they are based on a virus which is new. when we know CoVid-19 has been around for quite a while- so some people are immune.
For context she states that in the UK there are 1000 people a week dying of flu and pneumonia at the moment. 10 minutes long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUYmju6hdWg
I don’t think enough people are immune for it to matter. The epidemiologist on the Dunphy podcast this week stated that herd immunity doesn’t protect everyone from the virus, it just slows it down. I will continue to listen to the smart people, not the hurlers on the ditch.
That doesn’t contradict nor could be digested as a counter argument to SOQ’s.
One could easily agree with both of your points as presented.
Professor of theoretical epidemiology Sunetra Gupta is a hurler on the ditch? She is one of the leading experts in the field of epidemiology but if you disagree then please point me to someone you do agree with- I have asked you for this before btw.
As for the immunity percentage, no one really knows but Sunetra ‘s opinion is it is around 80%. The problem is that T Cell tests are expensive and require a high level of lab skill to process but there certainly is a reason why it seems to peak at a certain percentage in each country or community.
Anyways, I look forward to you posting the names of a few “smart people” that we can have a look at.
He forms his views by listening to the Dunphy podcast.
That is all you need to know …
Gupta is great. She is also challenging the lack of debate in the UK around 5G. There are specific likely health effects for some people and it can also be used as a form of enhanced covert surveillance. All she wants is a reasoned debate – same as with the plandemic – so we can get all the facts, before 5G is rolled out under our noses. Of course, what do we hear re 5G dangers here: SFA
three.ie switched on 5G last weekend – countrywide.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/three-ireland-switches-on-5g-network-around-the-country-1.4366332?mode=amp
@benblack Saw that. Worrying indeed. I think this is test 5G. We’ll never hear of the effects of this for those who live near masts. Independent voices like Gupta who question this madness need to raise their voices even louder. You, me, SOQ and all those who know the real reasons for the quiet deployment of 5G need to wake the sleeping masses up.
You know they said the same thing about microwaves.
Actually, I was browsing for a 5G phone during the week.
Full disclosure, before you include me in any future group.
I still haven’t gotten over the 4G.
How many Gs are safe anyway?
“Spiderweb” proclaims the Indo. Spiderbaby news.
Michael McGrath
Making shapes, getting it a bit right too
Saying exactly what will get the budget over the line
So what next …..
A watch this space ?
I’d say so ….
Bodger. The latest twist in this story: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/vaticans-mystery-cash-transfer/news-story/5ecad12b5d6d775ce29467dfc4d76020
Merkel hints ar room for maneuver. Are German and French exports to GB more important to these countries than the GFA. All will be revealed in due course
#theyhaveourbacksbutdontmentionthebondholders
#theyhaveourbacksbutdontmentionthebondholders
Anyone watching Sky Arts today…. 12 hrs (9.30am to 9.30pm) of ‘arty’ backdrop / scene setting for the TV series The Third Day.
Has a feel to it like the 60s TV series The Prisoner, or the movie The Wickerman…
Been watching an hour or more now and not a single bit of dialogue… really long slow shots… And weird ‘culty’ stuff going on…
It’s slow but intriguing.. I haven’t a clue what’s going on :)
Anyone watching Sky Arts…. 12 hrs (9.30am – 21.30) of ‘arty’ backdrop / scene setting for the series The Third Day.
Has a feel to it like the 60s TV series The Prisoner, or The Wickerman… Been watching an hour or more now and not a single bit of dialogue… really long slow shots… And weird ‘culty’ stuff going on…
It’s slow but intriguing.. I haven’t a clue what’s going on :)
Oops :)
It gets weirder.
I have posted this before:
https://www.doherty.edu.au/our-work/institute-themes/viral-infectious-diseases/covid-19/covid-19-research
I have to do a few comments or it will be blocked.
You have pointed to a group of research scientists whom at this point do not appear to be making any substantial claims about CoVid-19 one way or the other? Their projects appear to be live so results won’t be know for some time- probably middle of next year in some cases.
Although I can see that several are connected to WHO and on advisory boards, but I still have no idea what their opinions are on government lock down strategies. .
Another good source of information:
https://www.burnet.edu.au/covid-19//36_know_c19_hub
SOQ –
What about ‘Long Covid’ and other long term health impacts that survivors can suffer from – Is that not relevant to how seriously we take the virus?
Doesn’t the capacity of hospitals, ICU, medical staff, play a major factor in the response, not just the number who die?
As for this link- there appears to be an emphasis on modelling which is exactly what Sunetra Guptain in the UK is criticising. I don’t know about Australia but in UK and Ireland, modellers have consistently got it wrong by a factor of between 10 and 20- and they are still at it.
As for long haul CoVid-19- is it any worse or better than flu and pneumonia? Is it more common than long haul flu and pneumonia? I really don’t know the answer to those questions- do you?
I haven’t seen any studies to indicate one way or another but there seems to be a reluctance to do ANY comparative analysis between the three diseases which is why Sunetra is repeatedly raising the flu and pneumonia fatality stats.
Of course hospital capacity is a factor but not at our current levels of hospitalisations and ICU admissions. If there is a spike then everyone will understand why a lock down is needed but we are not ‘flattening a curve’ here in Ireland now, we are needlessly wrecking the economy- and people’s lives. .
Haha, Brendan O’Connor displaying a sense of humour playing out his show today with Fernando.
Carrier porn.
Marvellous.
https://twitter.com/HMSQNLZ/status/1312147289050292224
Interesting.
Five million big ones in a single donation is some financial backing for a luvvy’s new political party.
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1312116683704692736
https://www.thejournal.ie/jim-ocallaghan-theres-a-danger-in-a-political-system-that-blindly-follows-everything-nphet-says-5220162-Oct2020/
Oh dear. Jim O’Callaghan now on the case of NPHET. Himself and Leo ‘wherever the winds blows’ Varadkar
now as one almost.
Last NPHET minutes 27th August.
‘Members’ missing regularly.
‘Substitute members’ put in sometimes.
Sub Committee minutes abandoned.
No holding to account. No detail on how decisions are made. Shambles.
In fairness Jim appears to have broken out from under the official Government messaging a while now
I’ll give him that. The cracks are appearing though as regards the trust (if you can call it that) put in NPHET.
Calling all the EU dung beetles toiling away at the Irish Times.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-the-eu-can-t-sue-the-uk
When you get your pocket money, do you go straight for the cans or the batter burgers?
Serious question.
The article on Harry and Megan is also fun
From The Examiner (breakingnews.ie) I read, in relation to the LC debacle
“Ms Foley explained that the error was found as a result of an independent assessment conducted by Polymetrica International, identifying an error in one line of coding out of a total of 50,000 lines.”
Now, read that again…. independent assessment conducted by Polymetrika International .
That’s saying that the code wasn’t written by Polymetrika isn’t it? So, who/what company wrote the code? Why the secrecy? Where has McHugh spend our money?
I’d say that’s an inaccurate report because I distinctly remember hearing during the week that an American company has been brought in to review the code.
Maybe there were two reviewers of the code. The initial agreement with Polymetrika sounded cheap for what was required.
As a matter of fact, the software is free on one of the Polymetrika websites, so maybe some brainbox in the Dept. Of Education got it, used it, and then got Fernando to do a check, after the fact.
This story has a long way to go.
Wow Giggidy. You are a flipping Oracle. This is obviously bang on the money. Looking
forward to the next instalment. We’ll smother them in truth!
Some software is free on Polymetrika websites. Some of their software needs licences.
We can speculate all we want. But is all it is – speculation.
I am on the edge of my seat literally slavering at the thought of Giggidy’s next incredible insight
Next week: Giggidy blows the lid open on the conspiracy at the heart of the illegal dog breeding industry
Can’t wait for the Übermensch that is Jim O’Callaghan to take over the country and make absolutely everything better…
I don’t think it’s possibly, confidentiality etc. etc. but I’d love – and think it would be incredibly beneficial – to live stream a NPHET meeting, so people could see what they actually have to do and how they do it.
In lieu of that, there’s always comment sections, large international project engineering consultants, and the YouTube videos our mates send us to help show the way through these difficult times
I wonder, did the nazi’s ever dress up as british royals when they were having fun in their private sex-dungeon bunkers?..
:-J
I don’t see how there’d be 1metre between people seated in those pods so they’re only suitable if everyone is from the same household otherwise they are just petri dishes.
*chuckles*
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Good point.
Morgan Stanley begins looking for a major new London headquarters, countering fears the coronavirus crisis will crush demand for office space in the world’s financial capitals
And not moving to Paris or Frankfurt ?
https://twitter.com/business/status/1312439789119963136
#despiteprojectfear
Yawn.