‘An Almost Equal Number’ [Updated]

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Earlier….

Dublin’s Mater Hospital

This morning.

Via RTÉ News:

Dr Colman O’Loughlin, a consultant in the Mater, speaking on RTÉ’s Today with Claire Byrne, said too many acute hospitals beds are taken up with Covid-19 patients, adding that it is next to impossible to try and run a normal health system alongside this.

He said this has resulted in curtailed surgical activity and significant cutbacks in elective surgery.

As of 8am, there were 617 people in hospitals around the country with the virus, up 35 on the same time yesterday.

Of these, 106 people were in intensive care units with Covid-19.

Dr O’Loughlin said said there is an almost equal number of unvaccinated people and vaccinated vulnerable people in ICU.

Dublin’s Mater Hospital moves to ICU surge capacity (RTÉ)

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16 thoughts on “‘An Almost Equal Number’ [Updated]

    1. Mr.T

      Interesting is how the HSE record vaccination status for immunocompromised people – the HSPC reports state that immunocompromised people are deemed unvaccinated until they have received a 3rd dose.

      But in terms of vaccination rollout my immunosuppressed friend is deemed fully vaxxed – so which is it?

  1. Jono

    As usual, the ratio of unvaccinated keeps falling as the vaccine wears off.

    The vaccinated are on a subscription model that they don’t know about.

    Highest cases in Western Europe, highest vaccination in Western Europe.

    When will people put two and two together?

  2. SOQ

    While I have great sympathy for the front line health workers, it’s not like this surge is a surprise.

    Or is it the case that the powers that be in the HSE had such blind faith in the vaccines as to not bother expanding capacity? Problem with that scenario is, there has been red flags coming from the likes of Israel for quite some time now.

    1. Zaccone

      From Budget 2022 a few weeks ago: “The minister said €10.5m has been provided for 19 additional critical care beds in 2022, bringing the total ICU beds next year to 340”

      Bear in mind we’ve spent about €10billion on the PUP alone, in terms of corona crisis spending. The €10million above is peanuts. And it was a similarly low figure in Budget 2021.

      The government has invested almost zero money or effort into expanding ICU capacity at any point in the past 20 months. Despite the whole problem with corona being hospital capacity, flatten the curve etc. They assumed lockdowns, and then vaccines, would beat the virus, so didn’t bother.

      Its an absolutely gigantic policy failure, but nobody in the media seems to be asking questions about it yet. Instead the tiny number of unvaccinated people, or the UK, or young people, or American tourists, or the pubs, or whatever else easy target of the week for moral outrage is getting the blame for our hospitals being nearly at capacity.

      1. Kdoc

        it’s not only about providing ICU beds; the real difficulty is finding the personnel with the required skills.

        1. SOQ

          Given the amount of money which has been squandered, the answer to that one is easy- raise the wage so that the jobs becomes more internationally competitive.

          Also, I am not sure about ICU nurses but I do know that UK paramedic’s qualifications are not recognised here. If there is such limitations or restrictions, then they should also be relaxed.

          Where there is a will, there is a way, but IMO it is political ideology which is the problem, not staffing.

        2. Zaccone

          60,000~ not previously employed in Ireland medical professionals offered their services to the state in Spring 2020 when a call was put out by the government. They only hired approx 500 of them.

          This is without even doing something very easy/obvious, like say offering a temporary doubling in salary to all ICU nurses/doctors, with a 3 year contract term. Doing that would tempt people out of retirement, tempt expat Irish professionals home, and attract foreign talent. And reward our medical staff who’re struggling through the crisis every day.

          If the will was there a solution would be found. Putting €10mn towards the problem, over the entire next year, as our government is going to do is not attempting to solve the problem.

  3. K. Cavan

    The good doctor, an Anaesthesia, Critical Care Medicine & Extracorporeal Life Support specialist who clearly drew the short straw, does his best to breathe some extracorporeal life into the dead body of the Covid Con, fair play to him for chancing his arm to keep the thing rattling along. The usual song & dance is trotted out about the fact that an unprecedented 5% of our hospital beds are being severely overwhelmed by Covid patients. OMG!
    A few weeks back, we were being told that our pathetic allocation of ICU beds were almost used up, while a quick perusal of the small-print revealed that almost half of them were occupied by patients who were not intubated & on ventilators, merely using oxygen masks or canulas & had merely, but deliberately, been parked in those beds to take the bare look off the thing.
    What a load of crap, naked emperors, parading all over the media, demanding we praise the cut of their jib & the way the invisible cloaks hang. Soon, the hospitals will be choc-a-bloc with people suffering from Chimate Clange, as Joey Biden likes to call it, and the Covidiots will be all over Broadsheet, like a nasty, pus-filled rash, telling us all that “yes, climate change is a real disease that you can suffer from, honestly guv”.
    While the irony of a doctor who specialises in near death experiences trying to keep a lie alive hits the funny-bone, somebody really needs to tell these jokers the game’s up.

  4. Darren

    Is the lack of provision for additional icu capacity the same as the lack of provision for additional housing units? ie. The profit of private investment in ireland is built on there being certain gaps and in that certain guarantees?.. so even at non covid times facilitating for the care of seriously ill is an issue just as there is consistently an issue with housing for buy or rent… I might be way off but it seems like this is the game and it’s so obvious I presume it’s just taken now as a given.. just doesn’t really seem to be spoken about ..

    ..as it happens the recent stats are around 70% are over 55 years of age in icu.. partly as u would expect but also something not much refered to with all the talk of numbers and beds and so on

  5. Darren

    Is the lack of provision for additional icu capacity the same as the lack of provision for additional housing units? ie. The profit of private investment in ireland is built on there being certain gaps and in that certain guarantees?.. so even at non covid times facilitating for the care of seriously ill is an issue just as there is consistently an issue with housing for buy or rent… I might be way off but it seems like this is the game and it’s so obvious I presume it’s just taken now as a given.. just doesn’t really seem to be spoken about ..

    ..as it happens the recent stats are around 70% are over 55 years of age of those hospitalised.. partly as u would expect but also something not much refered to with all the talk of numbers and beds and so on

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