Render Unto Caesar

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This morning.

Italian officials have introduced €100 fines for all people aged over 50 years – both Italian citizens and foreigners living in the country – who have not received a Covid-19 vaccine. Additionally, all employees aged over 50 will require a Super Green Pass in order to access their workplace starting from February 15.

Gulp.

Italy to fine certain age groups if unjabbed against Covid (RT)

Meanwhile…

Refusal or reluctance to have a Covid-19 vaccine may be linked to traumatic events in childhood, such as parents separating, neglect, or physical, verbal and sexual abuse, new research suggests.

Those who suffer in childhood are also least likely to trust official NHS coronavirus information, follow the rules of restrictions or wear masks during the pandemic, public health experts found.

Covid vaccine hesitancy could be linked to childhood trauma, research finds (The Guardian)

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20 thoughts on “Render Unto Caesar

  1. SOQ

    Canada is back peddling on it’s vax tax I see- nothing to do with the convoy eh?

    Italy’s truckers are also on the move apparently so let’s see how that pans out.

    It is a very strange place we are in where what could be considered to be illegal measures are taken to promote an experimental gene therapy with no long term safety data, which does not prevent transmission, and may even leave compromise people’s immune systems.

      1. Tustin Jrudeau

        ah yes, the single masked man carrying a swastika – who the protestors are offering a reward for information on his identity. A resounding endorsement isnt it?

        1. Kim The Cardassian

          So let me get this straight.

          A convoy of aggressive protestors disrupting the daily lives of of a city of people regardless of the vaccine status, are offering a reward for information of the identity of the sole person carrying a swastika.

          Cool story bro.

      2. Doxxy Chainsaw

        Antivaxxer fash will continue to jackboot all over the place cos that’s what they’ve been doing since the start of the restrictions. They can bleat all about muh freedumbs, but when you see the dregs pushing the narrative it’s obvious that it was never about public health restrictions.

        1. GiggidyGoo

          Hee hee. You’ve pulled the little black book of go-to phrases out of your drawers late this evening.

    1. Lilly

      Doubt it is. Italy can’t go off on a solo run, they’ll have to adopt whatever EU policy is on vaccines and for now at least, they aren’t mandatory.

    2. Micko

      Well, Italy’s vaccination rate is the same as ours. 77%

      So, if the EU do let them away with it, it might set a dangerous precedent for us.

      Also, that Guardian article. What a load of crap.

  2. John Smith

    @Micko
    ‘Also, that Guardian article. What a load of crap.’

    My first reaction, too, but perhaps not entirely so, when I thought more about it. Assuming that the findings are genuine, i.e. that those who have suffered in childhood were found to be more likely to reject the various Covid measures, it would not be so surprising. These people are likely to feel that they have been betrayed by authority figures and, as a result, to be opposed to authoritarian impositions – a heading which would certainly include Covid measures.

    I had none of the disruptions listed. My childhood was very happy. My parents prepared me well for adulthood. They taught me to make informed decisions and helped me to develop the skills necessary to obtain the required information and to evaluate it. They also taught me that it is right to obey just and reasonable rules and regulations (and why this is so) but, conversely, that one has a duty to disobey and to seek the ending of immoral, unfair and unreasonable ones.

    Hence, I have not received the so-called Covid vaccines. I am totally opposed to the imposition of the use of vaccine passports and did not apply for one after I had Covid. I do not wear a face-covering… and so on. I certainly don’t trust official Government/HSE/NPHET/WHO/etc coronavirus information.

    Different background, different reasoning but same result.

    1. SOQ

      People suffering mental problems all over the place and this is what they focus on? The reasons are not that hard to understand- they are not safe not effective- we have no idea what the long term effects actually are.

      And, when you have Pfizer wanting to bury their documents for 75 years, it is no wonder some people are suspicious.

      That people with MScs/MSCS and PhDs are over represented in the vaccine free group should be of no surprise, because they have been trained to think critically.

      1. John Smith

        To be honest, why does it matter why people reject the ‘vaccine’ and/or disobey the restrictions? Everyone has their own reasons and probably most have several reasons. Whether it is simply gut feeling or the result of full-scale research and critical analysis is, to that extent, irrelevant. Nobody should be forced, coerced or misled into accepting the ‘vaccine’ or obeying unreasonable restrictions. However, they should be given access to all the information (facts, not lies or half-truths) that will enable them to make informed decisions.

    2. Micko

      Nah. Don’t think so John to be honest.

      The whole thing was a survey. And even the article is littered with “could” and “may be” caused etc etc

      There may be a correlation there of course. But it’s tenuous at best – at the moment. And it certainly doesn’t deserve an article devoted to it. Clickbait at best

      But, I suppose you may be into something about the anti authoritarian bit though…

      I’ve noticed that on the southside and the posher parts of the northside (malahide, Howth. etc) that mask wearing outdoors and a general nervousness of others seems to be more prevalent.

      Now, whether that’s due to people who have been more successful out of society being more likely to go along with the system that’s served them well is debatable.

      Again- pretty tenuous too ;)

      1. John Smith

        @Micko
        Surveys generally prove whatever the designer wanted them to prove. The government’s continuing Amárach public opinion survey has been a good example of this. The 31 Jan 22 report has these results, for example:

        Which of the following will you continue to do after coronavirus?
        Social distancing when in a queue – 69%
        Sitting further apart from others when outside house or on public transport – 58%
        Wearing a face covering in public – 52%
        Staying at home rather than going out – 25%

        What does ‘after coronavirus’ mean?
        What does ‘in public’ mean?

        Even though I recognise that there are still a lot of frightened people around, it’s hard to belive these figures! Generally around where I go the only thing that still seems to be generally observed is that nearly everyone in shops has a face covering and some still wear them outside and other places where they don’t have to. There’s little social distancing – none at all in a lot of places. Personally, I only know one person who is choosing to stay in and not mix at all. There not any obviously posher places (country area with small towns) so I can’t conmment on any social distinctions in the behaviours.

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