I wonder what Joe O’Shea thinks of the calls for Ireland to take in 20,000 mostly unvaccinated Ukrainians… https://t.co/emmzkwwDXZ
— Dr Jane Holland 🌸 MD PhD (@drjaneholland) March 3, 2022
Gulp.
Only 34.4% of Ukrainians are fully vaccinated, 1.7% received a third dose and 1% have one dose, according to Our World in Data.
Now you don’t know what to do.
Previously: Insight To Hatred
Meanwhile..
“Every week, it gets harder for a general public that overwhelmingly understands the need for vaccination to stay patient with those who don’t or won’t. People are dying, not just from Covid, but because the unvaccinated are taking up scarce capacity in our already overstretched hospitals.
But rage, however justified, is self-defeating. It merely drives misguided people towards those who want to turn a biological pandemic into a political plague. It adds to the chances that those who won’t get a shot in the arm end up raising that arm in stiff salute.”
Fintan O’Toole, December, 2021
Awkward, in fairness.
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Crossing the Covid and Ukraine streams this early in the day, before we’ve had a chance to get our drink on, is unfair – could you pull this and maybe repost it around 10pm ?
If we have to be serious (booooooooo!) then Covid is weakening as it mutates and so the issue of admitting unvaccinated refugees from Putin’s invasion of Ukraine isn’t particularly concerning.
Love to know. How these poor souls will have a roof over their head Get medical treatment or schooling
One problem at a time, getting them out of a warzone is a good start.
But is that actually the case? I was under the impression that, while the virus might mutate to be weakened, it was the vaccine that made the difference. Surely with so many people on the move and squeezed together we should be seeing a huge surge in cases. But appears we are not. Of course this points to the fact that some of the looney conspiracy stuff posted here, might, just might, have a grain or two of truth about it.
It’ll be grand – sure just slide an antigen test under the door every morning before you let them come out of their room. ;P
I have a question- Ukrainians are white and Christian but is that Catholic Christian or Protestant Christian? I mean we don’t want twenty odd thousand of Janet running around the place now do we?
“I Hear you’re
a racistsectarian now, Father!”I’m not sectarian- I’ll sleep with anyone.
You wouldn’t find me sleeping on the job.. just putting that out there Janet..
I didn’t get that impression mighty hound ;)
The wrong uns will have to convert before they get the soup.
I think the soup supping went the other way !
I’m an atheist now Father :)
I’m guessing they are Orthodox like the Greeks ?
Hopefully they’re not protestant christian – Bisted will have a conniption
It depends. Will they be all riding in beaches?
https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-russia-ukraine-war-religion-7793588/
I was joking above obviously Janet- but I do agree that the Indian media appears to be fairly balanced. Apparently they have signed some big deal with Russia for fertiliser, so perhaps they have to be.
OK so the Orthodox Church of Ukraine is a break away of the Orthodox Church of Russia- that sounds protestant to me.
Funny I was at a friends house up north recently and there was this strange gathering taking place besides. Turns out they were Plymouth Brethren, but not the long skirts variety- they were described to me as ‘dissident Plymouth Brethren’.
Only in the north could paramilitary terminology be applied to a church of faith.
I live in a very mixed part of Dublin, I have many friends who were brought up Plymouth Brethren, they’re basically C.O.I., the very strict wing. No music or TV on Sunday, no birth control, definitely, they outbred the Catholics. Similarly to the Amish, at maturity, 16 for the Brethren, their parents step back & the kids are allowed do what they like, so each of my friends had a couple iyf years in the wilderness, between 16 & 18 or 19, when they went berserk. All of them eventually found balance in their lives & have certainly continued their parents’ fondness for large families.
As a counterbalance, we had Quakers too.
“Only in the north could paramilitary terminology be applied to a church of faith.”
As well as in countless other places and hundreds, perhaps thousands, of books and articles where the term ‘religious dissidents’ is widely used.
Corse I know you’re joking :) ( it’s a Nordie thang )
Neither, SOQ, they were formerly Russian Orthodox but the Ukrainian part of the church was forced to seperate from its Mother Church, recently, so they’re now Ukrainian Orthodox. More Catholic than Protestant, although theologically speaking, the Church of Ireland isn’t Protestant, it’s correct definition is Anglo-Catholic, as it has no connection with European Protestantism, being more about Henry’s desire for a male heir, than any doctrinal difference.
Cromwell’s brand of Christianity was Protestant, however, Calvinist, I think.
It’s official Fintan O’Toolbox is a member of the world wide right party. When your right you’re right.
Floor it Fintan, f**kin floor it!