This morning.
Via The Irish Times:
Calling for help immediately when symptoms of a heart attack begin results in faster treatment and improved outcomes, according to a new report.
Only 37 per cent of patients suffering a major heart attack – known as an ST elevation myocardial infarction or Stemi – sought medical help within 60 minutes of onset of their symptoms, according to the audit of services by the National Office of Clinical Audit (Noca).
Ringing 112 or 999 as soon as anyone experiences the symptoms of a heart attack ensures the ambulance crew can diagnose a serious heart attack and transfer the person to the appropriate specialised treatment centre.
Good advice.
Thanks.
Call for help as soon as heart attack symptoms begin, report advises (Paul Cullen, Irish Times)
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Meanwhile…
Traffic noise linked to higher risk of heart attack, study says https://t.co/5ePbUBoHBl pic.twitter.com/D0IaBMHprU
— CTV News (@CTVNews) April 19, 2022
Ah here.
Won’t be long before cardiologists are the new virologists…
Well it is the most corrupt and criminal industry on the planet, apparently.
So I suppose the right thing to do is do you own research first and check in with your telegram and truth social experts and see what they say.
Bad. news, Vlad, it’s too late to do stupid stuff like “doing your own research”. You’d best just cling to the research that The Daily Star did on your behalf.
All those twenty-something journalists covered Virology on their journalism course, in Rathmines Tech.
Or someone who who reads a virology blog might now read a cardiology blog and consider themselves an expert and question those working in the field.
Yes, kdoc, all those highly-trained journalist/virologists, working in the field.
As opposed to failed paranoid conspiracy loon boxers?
Walter, that doesn’t even make sense. Putting ”failed” in front negates the rest. You’re not very good at this, are you? Sorry if that bruises your Ego.
Naw! I had in mind commenters who read a virology blog and then consider themselves experts when they regurgitate some medical terms on Broadsheet.
My professor would be very annoyed to hear his course described in such insulting terms, Kdoc. I can’t, try as I might, drag myself down to your impressive level of ignorance, so maybe if you make an effort, you might not feel so sensitive about someone knowing more than you. Green doesn’t suit you.
I should warn you, it’ll take a bit more than ”read a virology blog” even if such a thing exists outside your imagination.
A list of heart attack symptoms in men below:
https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/heart-attack/warning-signs-of-a-heart-attack
And in women:
https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/heart-attack/warning-signs-of-a-heart-attack/heart-attack-symptoms-in-women
The symptoms present differently in men and women, just something to be aware of.
TERF!!!
Why are you posting this, Millie?
There is no increase in heart attacks, you silly conspiracy theorist.
Christ almighty.
Unless the emergency system has changed radically in recent years, all patients who make 112/999 calls are transported by ambulance to the nearest A&E department and NOT a specialised treatment centre. Depending on the time of day, a cardiologist may be in attendance in the hospital or may be on call.
Yes, kdoc, if you make it to the hospital within an hour of your infarction starting, you have a very good chance of not dying.
A very, very, very good chance, every chance.
Say it with me “If I make it to the hospital within an hour of my infarction starting, I have a very good chance of not dying”
Repeat.
Did you read the article K? It claimed a cardiac patient would be transferred to a specialised treatment centre. From my experience in the business that’s not the case – the patient is transported to the nearest A&E – unless the system has changed in recent years.
If you wish, you can repeat and try to retain.
While the immediate treatment for a heart attack varies, it doesn’t require a cardiologist, Kdoc. It’s not an unusual complaint & if anything, it’s becoming more & more common, for some reason.
There are multiple methods of clearing the clot & results are astonishingly quick. Once the infarction has not damaged the heart muscles, you’re good to go, although possible surgery & definite lifestyle changes await you. In most cases, if you get to any A&E, say, twenty minutes after the event, you will walk out, days later.
It’s all about recognising the signs, see Millie’s post above. No, not the profane, bad tempered one.
K, In your haste to impress you still haven’t read the article, or if you did your professor would be disappointed with your comprehension.
Again, the article stated that a patient would be brought to a ‘specialised treatment centre’. Repeat: ‘a specialised treatment centre’. Requests for ambulances through the 112/999 system result in ALL patients being transported to the nearest A&E NOT a ‘specialised treatment centre’. That holds for HSE ambulances or DFB ambulances – unless the system has changed. A&E’ s treat everything and are not ‘specialised’. Now you have it.
If invasive intervention is required and the incident occurs out-of-hours, security will be contacted to open the Cath Lab and the on-call cardiologist and team will be notified. On-call doesn’t necessarily mean they have to come from their homes, they are usually in on-site accommodation and respond within minutes.
Sure we all know that cough CPR will save us! All the so called legit, lamestream websites say it won’t so there must be something behind it that Big Cardio doesn’t want us to know about.
What a sad, sad life you lead.
Go on, make another homophobic remark.
Pretty sure that using the murder of two gay men to goad others is homophobic? It’s certainly distasteful- but sure that is a given in your regard.
You boy Putin would have you killed.
You do know the history of how the Azov Nazis treated gay people when it was first formed I take it?
Probably not. Nobody is under any obligation to educate you darlin- go look it up for yourself.
Not that any of that excuses your tramping on even more graves of course.
the post is about IRELAND.
do you have to scrawl NAZI NAZI on every post every F day and make each and every post on here about you?
And if it is so awful then why is the bully boy thug here every day here eh?
” why is the bully boy thug here every day here eh?”
Because you’ve got nothing better to do with your life?
Well- I could spend more time on politics.ie and bullying doctors on twitter?
Mind you politics.ie reminds me of the Horpress magazine back in the day- all ‘right on’ opinions with zero substance- I can see how you feel at home there.
‘You do know the history of how the Azov Nazis treated gay people when it was first formed I take it?’
Remember when you deleted that comment about the Chechnan warlord that tortured gay people, who was killed in the invasion, and who you thought was fighting on the Ukrainian side? But he wasn’t, was he? So you deleted it? Because he wasn’t fighting on the Ukrainian side? Remember?
If this is true (and I’ve no reason to think Nigel is a liar, no matter if one disagrees with him or not he doesn’t seem to lie), that’s a real ‘step back and take stock’ moment SOQ. Applying subjective value to your own identity in order to win out some weird argument online that you don’t even know where you stand yourself on, is really bottom of barrel stuff. Make better choices.
No I don’t remember- and more to the point- If I had only have five minutes to delete a comment then you were clearly waiting to pounce.
The internet is littered with these sorts of AZOV Nazi stories if you bothered to look- neither side is gay friendly.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-lgbt-event-disrupted-azov-chernivtsi/28062749.html
Well, I happened to be there at the time. You were very angry that this guy was fighting for Ukraine. VERY angry.
‘neither side is gay friendly’
One side is a democracy making progress, the other side, the side that invaded the democracy, is an authoritairan state that’s going backwards.
One side is a democracy making progress
A country infiltrated with Neo Nazis is not a ‘democracy making progress’ – what bloody planet are you on?
I can cite story after story of what Azov have done to Ukrainian gay community but none of that matters because to you- Ukraine good Russia bad and that is it.
NEITHER side is gay friendly- so stop trying to shoe horn identity politics into it just to suit your agenda.
On a planet where Nazis exist in democracies and that usually isn’t enough to mark them from destruction. One ‘side’ invaded the other. Unless you think the entire population deserves to be punished for the existence of Nazis in their midst, said punishment to be carried out by people as bad as Nazis, then you have no actual point.
Which homophobic remark was that, Your Sadship? (And describe why you think it was homophobic)
Ah Gaslighty! At it again.
Looks like Your Sadness can’t point to one, or describe why one would strike her as homophobic.
Now, toddle off to your other ‘homes’ on Nitter, Twitter and politics.ie to spread your new dictionary of bileness. Good to see Twitter pulled you up on your hate-filled bile. Is that why you went to use Nitter – so you could still spread it?
e.g. https://twitter.com/MsDaisyC/status/1487189309094510605?cxt=HHwWmoCypYKzx6MpAAAA
Sad, sad life you lead.
The thick is strong in you Gaslighty! Nitter is a twitter aggregator.
Well, I’m not a member of twitter, so therefore wouldn’t have known about nitter until posted here a day or two ago by another poster.
On the other hand, you have your bile-covered fingers all over the place. Twitter, Nitter, politics.ie and here. Funny that those others all have you spewing bile about Broadsheet and a particular poster on Broadsheet.
What a sad, sad life you lead.
Oh Gaslighty, you should have read the response too. This is why. https://mobile.twitter.com/MsDaisyC/status/1494824898010697729
It’s a pic of one of your antivaxx heroes wearing a Star of David, cos wearing a mask is exactly the same type of persecution as being murdered in Auschwitz.
Keep up being a complete thick, won’t you?
It was your comment that was violating Twitters policies, was it not?
Are you really that thick?
Your post on twitter was pretty disgusting. And your attempt at diversion is to insinuate that I’m a supporter of Anne McCloskey.
What a sad, sad life you lead.
So, where’s my homophobic post then?. Eh?
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2022/04/19/you-wont-be-needing-those/#comment-2421373
No diversion either. These are your antimask/antiscience leaders.
Keep Gaslighting though.
Ah hahahahaha.
That’s a homophobic post?
Describe what’s homophobic about it? Or do you even understand that homophobic means?
I have anti-mask / antiscience leaders? Really? Now you’re just making a complete idiot of yourself.
You lead a sad, sad life.
Poor Gaslighty. So thick he even gaslights himself.
And away runs Daisy. Try catching the same bus as TenPin. You’re two of a kind.
Call you out, and off you run.
Poor Gaslighty. Whinges when I post, whinges when I don’t post.
MsDaisyC – her of Twitter, Nitter, politics.ie and Broadsheet notoriety, runs away.
Running 4 bile-laden instances of herself on various discussion sites. Sitting there with her cup of tea and marietta, fantasizing about being employed in the Public Service while she prepares for another onslaught of quotes from her new dictionary.
What a sad, sad existence.
Stay angry, Gaslighty. it’s great for my complexion.
Try mayonnaise. They say when everything else fails to improve your complexion, mayonnaise does a great job. Spread it on the marietta. Or inside two mariettas with butter.
What a sad, sad existence you have all the same.
Keep replying. it’s all you have in your thick, miserable life.
Run along now like a good little girl. Make up some new wordies for your dictionary.
Sad sad existence running your Twitter, Nitter, politics.ie and Broadsheet bile accounts while living in the make-believe world of being employed in the Public Service.
What a sad, sad vile life you live.
You hung around waiting for 4 hours for me to reply and all you could do was repost scutter? All that refreshing, what a waste of time!
Poor Gaslighty, you’ve got it bad!
Don’t forget the warm ovaltine now before you trudge to bed. Running 4 vile bile-laden accounts takes its toll. Funny too that you choose a word ‘scutter’ – have a look over your posts above. I’m sure when scutter.com gets up and running, you’ll be first in the queue to sign up.
What a sad, sad existence.
Did you spend all evening refreshing the page to see if I’d responded? Your anger is palpable. I hope you wake up tomorrow as angry and obsessed as you are now.
Nighty nighty, Gaslighty.
And away she runs. The sound of cloven hooves to be heard all over South Main Street timed perfectly to fit to her hit songs with many mentions of various new words ending …aloons’
What a sad, sad existence.
I hate to be a stickler, Giddy but I think you left out a “sad” there.
Damn!
Leaves me in tears, Giddy. So very sad.
When we were being trained in CPR as part of community defribilator scheme, we were told that immediately upon feeling symptoms and calling for help, the patient must be made to sit down, stop moving, and give them an asprin, so we got in the habit of always carrying a few asprin with us.
I always carry a few aspirin now just in case I read the threads you’re on.
Y’know, given the subject matter, you had the choice to stick to a high road, and you didn’t take it.
High road? What are you on?
I hate to see you fighting with Nigel, Giddy.
Still, back of the net! In your face, Nigel!
”No, guard, they’re just aspirin, really”
When I learned CPR in the early 90’s, one of the first things we were taught was NOT to hit people in the chest – as was common place in movies at the time.
Although the nurse who was giving the class said that the “whack em back to life” manoeuvre was quite common place back in the day and was quite a successful technique (apparently) and they only stopped doing it as there was a danger of breaking a rib, feeling the wrath of grouchy litigious (yet still alive) patients etc
She kinda left it open as “do it if you think it’ll work, but I can’t officially recommend it” though. ;-)
I probably should do a refresher course…
we do CPR training once a year here and if performing your compressions breaks a rib but keeps a person alive long enough to get medical attention, so be it. They do special subset training for children, pregnant folk, children and the elderly and for that last group, you’re fairly likely to break something but it’s better to meet your compression depth and rate than freezing up.
Yeah, emphasis on the compressions, likelty to break ribs if kept up long enough, but they have to be kept up until paramedics arrive, they trained us to take turns to keep them going. There was never enough support to get the scheme properly running, but the training was brilliant.
it’s great for confidence too. Very easy in a crowd to think ‘ah someone else will do it’ but with a bit of training under your belt, it makes it easier to step up. I’ve only had to use the training twice but both times no compressions were needed as the people had fainted for other reasons.
The choking training is handy as well (can’t say Heimlich anymore :) ). Gets your head set, what’s the first thing to do, the second etc. It’s different training for kids as well, I’ve had to do the full lot of that twice, broke down crying after one of those, you put that emotion in the back seat and focus on your training.
+1
You don’t even need to do the breaths now, just rapid compressions to keep the blood circulating until a defibrillator or paramedics arrive. It’s such a simple thing to learn and retain and 99% of us will never have to do it outside of a training course, but it’s something I’m glad I know.
we do both for kids as they are more likely to present with problems getting air into their lungs than cardiac issues, same with infants. But you’re bang-on for adults. I think they walk us through it in case it’s needed but for most cases, especially with AED’s being much more readily available, compressions are enough.
I still go into fight or flight mode when I hear that code blue noise these days despite there being hundreds of people better equipped than I where I work.
‘I probably should do a refresher course…’
Same. Local civil defence are good for training courses.
True, and its always good to know what places nearby have defibrillators. Lots of sports centres, hotels and supermarkets and similar I think have them now.
One of the most horrifying moments I’ve experienced as a parent was, when taking little miss home from NICU, being given the ‘resus talk’ by the staff.
Learning how to do CPR on an infant who was smaller than most, who’d been reliant on a ventilator until only weeks before, was one of the most terrifying moments of becoming a parent.
Didn’t sleep for a week after taking her home, no exaggeration.
the stress and worry
restraint in that circumstance would be utter torture, having to hold back and follow what the staff have told you instead of throwing yourself, body and soul, into helping your child. I hope that part of your life and theirs is behind you.
I can imagine, a healthy baby is enough of a sleep-thief, I still admire the me who managed to muddle through it all, with my well-thumbed copy of Penelope Leach’s owners manual. Your baby’s health is more viscerally felt than your own, this much is true.
Throw away the aspirin, Nigel, wipe the CPR training from your brain, there is no such thing as heart attacks, it’s all a “Conspiracy Theory”.
What are you raving about now?
He’s attempting to conflate the information on responding to a heart attack with the story that broadsheet have been pushing regarding heart issues as a result of the covid 19 vacc.
What he’s done instead is demonstrate the scope of idiocy, and loudly.
There is no Covid-19 vaccination, Millie but the unprecedented increase in heart problems is real, especially to the victims.
I gave up the raving as the 90’s ended, Mr Ego, you should try it.
Started hemorrhaging at home about 2 months ago, ambulance was no use, told it was going to be atleast 40 minutes, while I was 20 minutes drive to the hospital. Partner had to drive me to hospital while bleeding out. Very scary experience for both of us.
An awful experience for you. Hope you’re doing okay now.
+1
How traumatic for you both. Wishing you well in your recovery.
Well, well, well, the sheeples sneer at the “Conspiracy Theory” that there’s an increase in heart attacks, then earnestly discuss CPR, ambulances, cardiologists, etc.
You couldn’t make it up, they can’t even convince themselves, anymore, God help them. It’s genuinely pathetic. No, it is.
Can’t you all just drop in to your GP & have them use a syringe to suck the toxic crap back out?
No, you can’t, can you?
Is your heart beating too rapidly? Do you feel a bit sweaty? Out of breath? Is that really heartburn or indigestion? Remain vigilant, vaxxed ones, it could happen at any moment, remain vigilant for the rest of your lives.
(Insert Vincent Price laugh…ah-ha-ha-ha-ha!)
Safe, safe & efficacious! Radio Jellyfish Éireann told me so, Lunatic O’Neill said so.
Clutch chest, fall over, shout “damn you, Fauci!”.
RIP.ie, your final internet post.
“Suddenly, unexpectedly”
But wait, hark! Pfizer have a new mRNA jab that can cure all the problems caused by their other mRNA jabs.
Sign up, line up…you’ll show those Conspiracy Theorists, yet.
so someone clutches their chest, keels over and dies on the street and your first reaction is delight? You really are a car crash of a person. Hopefully your own sick outlook on life isn’t reflected in those around you in your hour of need.
If it is happening to those who bullied, coerced, blackmailed and threated others into taking that poison then yes, they deserve all they get- I have zero sympathy for them.
Further more, they should be made pay for their own health care, because that is exactly what they were demanding from the non vaccinated.
and here’s the other half of the car crash. May your own callousness be met with understanding so maybe you comprehend what a deplorable creature you’ve made yourself into. Wishing death on another, lowest of the low.
I don’t wish death or injury on anyone but if it is to happen at all, then I hope it happens to those whom as above, forced others to take something they did not want to take.
same as K. Cavan below; still no less of a disaster, even while backing up.
You’re mistaken, paul, I haven’t backed down nor up. You are also mistaken if you think evil should be enabled, excused or left unpunished. Such a scenario will lead nowhere good, a lesson I fear we are learning anew, though many won’t wake up until it’s too late.
Callousness, yes, indeed, an accusation you throw at someone you disagree with but fail to observe in those you foolishly trusted, paul.
Agreed, SOQ, there’s no doubt such pure evil should not go unpunished.
Death is too good for that scum.
OMG, paul, has someone clutched their chest, keeled over in the street & died?
And I just stand there, laughing like Vincent Price on the outro of Thriller?
Did Michael Jackson & a horde of dancing zombies appear then or what?
Is your real name Earnest?
Would you ever get a life?
still no less of a disaster, even while backing up.
Professional Athletes suffered at least 890 Cardiac Arrests and 579 Deaths following Covid-19 Vaccination in the past year; & FIFA Football Deaths increased by 300%
https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/04/20/increase-athlete-cardiac-arrest-deaths-covid-vaccination/
This can only be ignored for so long. This can only be excused by [insert whatever] for so long. Why is the hearts of these young people at the peak of physical fitness failing?
Denial, SOQ, is very often the first reaction of both Victim & Perpetrator.