Tell Me Mom When I Get Home




Sir, – I fully agree with Alan Fairbrother (September 6th) on the question of our dropping the Irish “mam” or “ma” in favour of first the Anglo “mum” and now the American “mom”.
I suppose it has to do with our obsession with sounding posh, and fear of, God forbid, sounding Irish ! – Yours, etc,

Raymond Kennedy
Dublin 5.

Your ma.

Mammy vs mummy (Irish Times letters page)

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49 thoughts on “Tell Me Mom When I Get Home

  1. Clampers Outside!

    Sounding posh me eye.

    It has more to do with the media consumed by the generations growing up after Ireland (not just Dublin) got access to more than just GoToBedEarly 1 and GoToBedEarly 2 on the telebox back in the 80s.

    I still use ‘Mam’ and ‘Mammy’ :)

  2. Mr. T.

    Ahh Ma! (for when you’re not allowed do something).
    Mam? (for when you want something).

    The Mom/Mum thing is annoying. I find it contrived.

      1. andyourpointiswhatexactly

        I’m talking about Mum, btw. Mom sounds ridiculous, though I guess the people who use it have ridiculous accents anyway.

        1. Sidewinder

          Mum is absolutely not an affectation as I’ve been using it since I was three and no three year old is that precocious. Almost everyone I know from Cork says mum. It’s just regional dialect.

          However, I’m almost certain there’s no regional dialect in ireland that says “Mom”.

          1. Outta me Bento Box

            Any Cork people I know say “Mam”

            Wannabe posh Cork people mispronounce the “a” in father but they can’t say the “th” so it sounds like “My fawder”

            Matt Cooper for example

          2. Sidewinder

            Being from Cork, born and raised there by other Cork people, I assure you, lots and lots of Cork people say Mum. Rural areas say Mam more I’d say.

          3. Orlita

            In Connemara Gaeilge, the pronunciation of “mam” is “mom”, so they say mom even when thy’re speaking in English

  3. andyourpointiswhatexactly

    Sometimes when Kerry people say Mam it sounds like Mom to me. Though they could be saying something entirely different. Who knows with those hoors.

    1. sheesh

      same with some of my friends from Galway – I think it’s gaeltacht influence , closer to Irish pronunciation

        1. Outta me Bento Box

          replying to
          >same with some of my friends from Galway – I think it’s gaeltacht influence , closer to Irish pronunciation

          1. sheesh

            Our poor orphaned comments floating around out of context cos the one I replied to has been deleted by the higher powers at BS

    2. Aido

      So I’m a c**t and a hoor. Since we’re all apparently making sweeping statements today I think Continuity Jay-Z and andyourpointisexactly are probably closeted homosexuals still living at home with mammy.

      So yeah, I started calling my mother ‘mom’ simply to annoy her, and it caught on with me and my sister. And it just sort of stuck. It’s not the word that matters, it’s the person it’s attached to. A rose by any other name and all that. Or in other words, get over it.

  4. Spaghetti Hoop

    Dear Raymond Kennedy,
    I believe you are our new authority on what individuals should call their mothers.
    Any other important advice for us unguided souls?

  5. edalicious

    My father and his brothers have always referred to their mother as Mum so I doubt that’s purely down to the influence of American TV but the whole “Mom” situation is absolutely ridiculous.

    1. Outta me Bento Box

      True Gaels would know that Mom is much closer in pronunciation to the Irish.

      Ignorant, revisionist Jackeens

  6. Murtles

    Tis all in the vowels you.
    Mum – Anglicised
    Mam – Salutationised
    Mom – Americanised
    Mim – Australianised
    Since we can’t use E (as Mem would be too confusing with existing terms – meme, memory), our only option is to keep using Mammy or pick another letter of the alphabet. A random generator draw came up with F so from now on, Irish people will refer to their mothers as “Mfm” (it is pronounced exactly like it’s spelled so no confusion there thankfully).

  7. Selfie Sensation

    nobody over the age of 6 should address their mother as Ma or Mam and certainly not Mammy. It’s childish and makes you sound like you never went to school.

  8. Spot on, No bother

    Kerry people do use Mom more than anything else. Certainly in North Kerry. Not drawn out in pronunciation like the Americans, a more curt sound, if that makes sense!

  9. Frilly Keane, Anyone?

    Langers say Mam or by name like “Rittttteeee can I go t’d’ pictures with Frill n’dem”

    Even Dagenham langers use Mam
    RCYC langers love the Muumm or the Muummie

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