35 thoughts on “Oscar Losing

    1. Starina

      yep. There’s dispute over whether the minimum will be 10 months or two years. at least it’s something, right?

  1. Lilly

    Unbelievable. I would have slapped him away for 10 years. Didn’t believe his intruder story for a second. He won’t be a year in custody.

    1. sickofallthisbs

      Aye, I don’t know how anyone could believe his story that he thought an intruder broke into a bathroom (on the first or second floor?) and then locked themselves into a toilet. What were they going to steal? Those blue things you put in the cistern? Or the toilet roll? No no it was his crystal studded toilet brush.

      1. Tom Stewart

        His story says that he was in bed at 3am when he hear sounds in the bathroom. He says he thought Reena was still in that bed. He retrieved his gun from under the bed and took off to investigate.

        Now, if I were in an accommodation with one other person, and I heard sounds from another part of that accommodation, I would assume it was that person. The fact that he wouldn’t do a quick hand-pat to check if she was there or in the bathroom is where is story really really falls down.

        I then think of what is MUCH more likely. That they had an argument, and she, terrified, locked herself in the bathroom. He wasn’t having any of that so shot her four times. Reports say that he had anxiety issues, but I wouldn’t excuse him on that.

  2. Tom Stewart

    If he actually served 5 years in prison, I would be satisfied with it. As unlikely as his story was, it was very hard/impossible to disprove, so we can’t definitively say it didn’t happen.

    I’m hearing here that he’ll serve less than 5 years. Disgrace.

  3. John E. Bravo

    I know this probably puts me in a minority, but I’ve never understood the interest people take in murder/manslaughter trials, or how sensational media coverage is able to stir up any interest. Not only in this one that has the gloss of celebrity, but also in cases in Ireland like the Kearney case where people crowded outside the court to shout abuse, or even the awful Holohan case in Cork.

    Obviously I don’t think murder isn’t bad, and dying is probably worse than prison, but I’m always bemused by how quickly usually reasonable people can bring themselves to offer their opinion about how much time someone should get etc., how keen people are to see other people punished when, in cases like Pistorious, they are usually completely unrelated to the case, and almost certainly have no access to the details of what happened when the people died/were killed.

    1. Bejayziz

      Its quite similar to the masses that would gather to watch public executions in times past, dont understand the interest either

      1. Nigel

        An execution is a single, gruesome, brutal event. A trial is a long, often boring series of often arcane arguments. However, it is unquestionably compelling drama. Two advocates presenting their cases, a persons life in the balance, questions of truth and objectivity explored and analysed and disputed, and the suspense is not about whodunnit but whether justice will be served, and far more integral issue to do with our place in the world and how our society functions. So it’s less about grue, and more about wanting to know how it works out in the end.

    2. Tom Stewart

      For some people, it may be unhealthy interest in a gruesome event.

      But the actions of our judicial system are of interest to people not connected to the case. They are part of the society that has been injured by the actions of the perpetrator. They are part of the society that is considering locking him/her away for many years. It could happen to you (you could be either victim or perpetrator) so you do have an interest in what punishment is handed out.

      Someone commits a crime against the society you live in. And you don’t give a monkeys what punishment this society gives him/her. Yes – that puts you in the minority.

      1. John E. Bravo

        It’s less about not caring and more about recognising that without full access to all the details of the case, I couldn’t ever make a fair and unemotional judgement, certainly not enough to dignify smalltalk with assumptions or to state a desire for a quantity of punishment for someone else.

        And if the prurient interest taken by others is as you suggest about feeling part of a community which has been wronged, why isn’t there more interest in the conditions under which trials take place, the fitness of judges and juries etc. You either trust that the judges are able to sentence correctly, or you don’t trust that the judicial system is up to the task. Baying for more time isn’t the answer in either scenario.

        A lot of people hoping for a particular sentence or being satisfied with a certain stretch of time rather than another seem more like audience members awaiting denouement than community-minded folk protecting their society.

    3. Lilly

      No access to the details, you say. You realise the court case was broadcast on TV? As for the rest of your sanctimonious stance, you have heard of the social contract?

      1. John E. Bravo

        Sanctimony’s a bit strong. And I didn’t say ‘no access’. Sure, I’ve heard of the social contract, or thereabouts; I don’t see what that has to do with me wondering why people treat murders and sentencing as media spectacles.

  4. Spaghetti Hoop

    The reasonable sentence may reflect the unlikelihood he’ll reoffend. His conviction has put an end to his career also. Anyway, the sentence can’t be compared with Irish courts – different legal and penal systems.

    1. Small Wonder

      Although, he does seem to have a problem with guns going off when he gets his hands on them. He should be banned for life from handling them on top of his jail sentence.

    2. Tom Stewart

      Ah yeah. He only ended the life of a beautiful young woman. But he *probably* won’t do it again. 12 months it is then.

  5. Disasta

    So if I want someone dead go to SA on a holiday with them and I’ll get a short term for shooting them while they are taking a dump?


  6. Murtles

    The sentence is irrelevant, if he’s let into the general prison population, he’s a goner. Solitary I’d say for his entire sentence. Serves him right and he’ll probably come out fruiter than a bag of squirrels as well.

  7. Niamh

    I’m a bit confused about how he can serve a five year sentence and a three year suspended sentence concurrently. Surely the three year sentence isn’t being served as it’s suspended, no? I thought he would only serve the suspended sentence if he were to commit another crime.

    Also – to those saying it’s too short a sentence for murder, he wasn’t found guilty of murder.

    1. Buzz

      Most people think he is guilty as sin, as was the case when OJ Simpson got off. Pistorious paid for excellent lawyers who made his case well and managed to inject a reasonable doubt against all odds. Karma will get him.

  8. Frenchfarmer

    Odd, wasn’t it, how badly prepared and ineffectual the Prosecution were.
    Wonder who chose the team?

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