At a meeting of the Oireachtas Joint Transport and Communications committee this morning, Deputy Patrick O’Donovan (Fine Gael) asked representatives of An Post and Capita why Dublin postal codes are being retained with the introduction of Eircode.

Was it D4 this?


28 thoughts on “Snob Rule

  1. Daithif

    Stuff that matters: economy, human rights, the environment, pizza.

    Stuff that doesn’t matter: whether the D4 postcode still exists in 2015.

  2. ahyeah

    Why can’t Irish politicians speak with inserting “in relation to”, “in the context of”, “on the whole basis of” etc into every sentence? Really no different that teenagers and their “oh my god, it’s , like, totally, like” every 6 seconds. Empty heads with nothing to say but determined to say it anyway.

  3. fulladapipes

    I noticed on the Eircode website they are offering two databases for sale to businesses, presumably so they can send out marketing rubbish etc. There seems to be no way to opt out of this. Indeed, I can’t even find a way of contacting the Eircode people to ask if and how houses can opt out.

    I don’t want or need any more sh1te coming in my door, thanks.

  4. Paolo

    The current Dublin postcodes have meaning for millions of people. Why would you want to eliminate that meaning when it can very easily be integrated into the new system?

    1. delacaravanio

      The problem with them is they are redundant as the only people that need to understand them are delivery people, and they’ll be using the new nationwide system.

      1. smiffy

        You could say the same thing about townlands, villages etc., when you’re talking about postal addresses. Personally I couldn’t care less (but then I’m in an odd-numbered code), but big deal.

        1. delacaravanio

          Townlands and villages existed long before postmen, or addresses, or even letters.

          The postcode was invented later to ensure that a letter or parcel gets to that address.

          What we’ve got now is a situation where the routing codes have morphed into a system of arrondissements, or numbered districts, for Dublin that they were never supposed to be in the first place and now can’t be scrapped because, even though they’re redundant, they’re tied up with house prices. It’s nuts when you think about it.

    2. deliverancecountry

      A here, ‘Dublin postcodes have meaning’, after the last boom Glasnevin seemed to stretch from Clonee to Howth.
      My local area is a complete mess of housing estates and back roads named after fancier sounding but completely different locations, for instance there is a wooded area with nature walks and an associated road sign, the housing estate with that name is a mile away on a different road, it’s a head melt for couriers.

  5. ahjayzis

    Is it true the postcodes will be single-house based and not on like 8 or 10 houses? And that they’re going to be ‘private’, so not in alphabetical/numerical order down a road? And if they’re private, then you can’t just enter your postcode in lieu of your whole address into an online shopping order?

    I mean, why? What’s the point, unless you live on a nameless road in Leitrim or similar backwoods?

    I said this before but could we not just have lifted someone else’s system for our own uses? Leap Card all over again. My postcode is the same for every flat in my block – if I order a pizza, i enter the flat number and the postcode, voila. If I’m searching flats in my area I’ll use just the postcode – all not possible if it’s private and/or house-unique.

    1. deliverancecountry

      Exactly, 10s of thousands of people live down random lanes off secondary roads in the back of beyond. (Funny enough we pay millions of euros in fines every year for septic tanks seeping everywhere)

  6. Kieran NYC

    Once again, Irish politicians have to re-invent the wheel and make a balls of it.

    See also: Irish Water, the Children’s Hospital, etc. etc.

    Why can’t we just find a system that works perfectly well elsewhere, and copy that? The UK and US postcode systems seem to get the job done fine, having lived in both countries.

    1. delacaravanio

      But the whole gravy train is about TDs hiring consultants and wasting money on “fact finding missions” abroad. Once they resign the politicians then get jobs with/positions on the boards of the PR firms and consultancy firms they signed the state contracts on behalf of the state with as well as donations to their party/campaigns from the businesses they pay off. It’s a form of legalised corruption that happens more in the US and UK than here, but our lads are learning fast. Recent examples:

      Irish Water consultancy fees over €50 million.
      Leap (smartcard) fact finding trips and consultancy fees over €55 million and over 10 years in implementation.
      Eircode consultancy/setup fees over €100m and over 15 years in implementation.

  7. Bacchus

    It’s all irrelevant. A house in D6 or D4 will not suddenly drop in value because some numbers at the end of its address change. It’s the same house in the same area. It will take minutes for the market to adjust.

  8. No thanks eircode

    Nonsensical… Incompetent… Useless

    Capita have devised eircode around keeping the Dublin postal districts happy, even altering the design of the 3 digit routing key to a one-off 4 digit key to accommodate D06W!

    Introducing post-codes need have no effect on the existing Dublin postal districts. If someone is writing their address, they can still include D2, D12 or whatever it may be along with their new post code. Using a post code is not forcing anyone to change their address

    This is another example of a complete lack of thought put into the eircode design. We have the national delivery companies shunning it. We have the emergency services shunning it. We have no buy-in from Garmin (they use Loc8 in Cork), TomTom, Google. An Post don’t need it

    How could they get it so wrong?

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