Skeptical O’Hare writes:
Lower than Ireland, which appears to be as bad as it gets.
To wit:
Rodney Croome, the national director of Australian Marriage Equality (AME), which has been lobbying MPs to vote in favour, suggested a positive result in Friday’s referendum in Ireland could add to momentum in Australia for legislative change.
“If, as seems likely, Ireland vote for marriage equality then Australia will be the only developed English-speaking country that doesn’t allow same-sex couples to marry and that will be a major impetus for reform in this country,” Croome said.
“Many Australians will feel ashamed that same-sex couples can marry in a traditionally conservative country like Ireland but not in Australia. Many Australians will feel ashamed that our international reputation is suffering and will suffer more because we are lagging behind comparable countries.
“It is bad enough for us to fall behind New Zealand and Britain but to fall behind Ireland when Ireland has traditionally been the most socially conservative developed English speaking country is deeply embarrassing.”
Now steady on, Rodders.
READ ON: Australians will feel ashamed if Ireland votes for same-sex marriage – advocate (Guardian)
Its not nice to read, but, to be honest, they’re not wrong.
If the cap fits….
Hang insect-repellent-infused corks off it’s brim
There are a 17 countries in the world that recognise equal marriage. Ireland is about to become the 18th. How can you seriously suggest that Ireland is socially conservative, especially when compared to Australia, New Zealand, Scotland and the U.S.?
All 17 of these countries recognise equal marriage for legal reasons. It is arguable that several of them would not recognise equal marriage if it were put to popular vote.
Something to do with lack of abortion rights, the fact that public employees can be fired for not being Catholic enough, the fact that our national broadcaster still shows mass every sunday and the angelus twice a day, the fact that raping a man is in many ways technically not a crime, the fact that our constitution starts with recognising that we have “obligations” to Jesus – but hey, those are just a few to choose from. There are plenty more if you care to find them.
yes to all that except why not show mass if there’s an audience ? its hardly primetime.
Because it’s a publicly owned station and shouldn’t be pushing a religious agenda, especially not one that regularly commits atrocities against the population.
True.
Australia just hate losing to anyone
They won’t loose to Ireland either.
You are both loose and losing
My boomerang wont come out
More lube next time Jimmy
It’s tough getting round the bendy bit…
Whatever you do, don’t clench
You seem very knowledge.
Ooh facty
Genocide of the aboriginals apparently isn’t socially conservative.
If you’re white and speak English you’re more than welcome to live in Australia. Otherwise, rack off!
Australia is very conservative. I’m amazed that anyone would think otherwise.
Yeah, I recognise that we’re conservative but only an idiot would claim Australia is socially progressive.
Developed English speaking countries FTW. Why are there any other countries anyway? Why do they bother? That’s what I’d like to know.
He’s not far wrong.
Hope Rodney is deeply embarrassed about the prevalence of racism in Australia though.
No problem with that.
We are, and have, held position as one of, if not the most, conservative countries in Europe for donkeys years. It’s what makes a likely ‘Yes’ in the referendum such a big deal abroad… other countries are literally surprised by it.
Bleedin’ deadly init :)
I think it shows the insanely fast social change since the 1990s in Ireland. Except on abortion, where Jesus *really* cares.
+1
But, I think the abortion question, if put PROPERLY to the people would have passed some time ago. But instead of putting it to the people, govts have put forth, bits, and tweaks, too afraid to be ‘the party that brought in abortion’. Bunch o’ useless w*nkers all – FG, SF, Labour FF…. All.
Aren’t you lucky then.
We’re really not or at least there’s very little between the countries. There Are loads of places in America where you can’t even drink.
Yes, but then places like Boston, Los Angeles and New York even them out.
“Yes, but then places like Boston, Los Angeles and New York even them out.”
You cannot be serious or perhaps you haven’t been to any of these places? There are pockets socially liberal people in the U.S. but they are extremely small. In general, there is no tolerance of liberal values in the U.S.
Lived in Brooklyn for two years, I’d easily consider NYC to be more liberal than Dublin or any Irish city. I’ve visited Los Angeles for work five times in the last four years, it’s not like New York in being squished together but I would easily consider Hollywood-to-the-coast section of the city liberal. Boston I’ve only visited once, but considering they’ve had same-sex marriage since the mid-2000s and and they’re virtually as blue as a state can get in the US, yes I’d consider it to be a liberal, progressive city.
You have most defintely not been to Los Angeles or anywhere outside of manhattan
I most definitely have, see my comment above. I’d consider Santa Monica inwards through Brentwood/West Hollywood/Hollywood/Universal City/Studio City/NoHo to be much more liberal than the island of Manhattan, where I worked for two years while living in Brooklyn.
you know why there are so many australians visiting and working here?
well they do say that every criminal returns to the scene of the crime..
ba-dum tish
My my, such enlightenment.
They needn’t worry. I suspect it’ll be a no.
I suspect you are wrong
I hope I’m wrong.
What about the Maltese, no one ever thinks of Malta
who cares about the falcon maltese?
Asif
developed English speaking country
Pretty longwinded way of saying ‘White’ isn’t it.
Lol. Good point.
Even people in the ‘No’ camp should now vote ‘Yes’ to prove this gimpdaw wrong.
First running water for everyone, now gay marriage – whose ‘falling behind’ now, you flamin’ drongo!!
No spider-related deaths since 2012!
Bank notes you can burn! *lights cigar off
tennerfiver*Shark Wars just a distant memory – oh, and we WON.
Ehhh, at least it was our own babies we stole and sold!
All those babies did very well I believe, so no harm done.
He’s correct, look at the evidence from the parties we elect, time after time, despite all the carry on. I mean individually and in our little groups, sure, liberal, but overall, pretty conservative, by most measures.
…trying to outdo us on catholic clerical sex abuse and now this…
They already have. They have yeshivah abuse as well.
Are you old enough to vote?
Are you? Your trolling here suggests not.