44 thoughts on “Stark”

  3. everybody

    Give over with the fake outrage, you don’t complain when its dead bodies in the middle east.

    1. Walter-Ego

      The chances of a family member or friends of the deceased in the middle east seeing a picture of their loved ones dead body in The IRISH daily star are very slim. however this picture would be in every shop, garage and street vender in the Country. Fake outrage my ass.

    2. Yea, Ok

      Spot on. Yes it’s a tragedy, but to feign outrage at a redtop’s cover is ridiculous.
      Far too many people spend far too much time getting offended by things these days. Toughen up FFS.
      Orwell would be horrified at the lefty-hippy nonsense that’s commonplace these days.

      1. Robyn

        Yea, OK: Would you ever cop on? Imagine if it was your son, your daughter, in one of those bags. Imagine having that image staring at you from every newsstand in the country. Now, if you still feel the same way, how about you tell the families of the deceased to “toughen up, FFS”

        Yes, it is a very striking image. A very hard hitting image. But a balance has to be sought between hard hitting and remembering that those bags contain somebody’s children.

        1. Yea, Ok

          Am I telling the families to toughen up? Do you think they care about the Star when there’s wall to wall coverage of this, including that picture?
          We’re fast approaching not being able to express any opinions or free speech whatsoever in the interests of not causing offence. If your weak disposition can’t handle full reporting of current events then maybe you should lock yourself away at home and protect the delicate little flower that you are.

          1. Robyn

            Hang on just a minute. I did not say that it should not be reported. I fully believe that these things should be reported. What I did say was that there needs to be a balance struck in the use of images.

            If we were talking about reporting the news we would be complaining about the front cover of every paper in the country. Now, disengage mouth, engage brain. Get off your high horse and actually think for a minute!

          2. pedeyw

            “We’re fast approaching not being able to express any opinions or free speech whatsoever in the interests of not causing offence”, bad reasoning. You CAN express anything you want, you can also expect to be called on it when people disagree.
            “Far too many people spend far too much time getting offended by things these days.” And that’s probably a good thing, it means people are willing to speak up on things they perceive to be wrong, instead of just putting up with it. You may not agree with it but either put forward a decent argument or deal with it yourself.

          3. St. John Smythe

            I too need the imagine of a bodybag or I won’t believe their dead. Some journo’s words won’t do it for me.

        2. Benjamin Butthurt

          I doubt the families of the deceased will be spending time today going from newsagents to newsagents in fairness.

      2. fran

        The image of a body bag is not journalism you clown. Its poor, lazy and unprofessional editing.

    3. fosull

      Yeah, come back to us if the situation is ever directly relevant to you and it’s a member of your family.

      Bet you’ll be full of support for this sort of grubby, tasteless, insensitive nonsense then.

      If you cannot empathise with those affected by this, you’re a soulless creature.

    4. FK

      How arrogant & ignorant of you to describe the reaction as fake outrage. People have every reason to be upset by this. It is not appropriate or necessary to compare the two tragedies. It’s not an either/or situation. Graphic front pages are upsetting and serve no purpose. We are quite capable of understanding how awful such a tragedy must be.

      1. Owen C

        Isn’t the issue here that, so far, 100% of the outrage obviously hasn’t been from people who know the deceased, but, actually comes from potentially uninvolved bystanders? My guess is that the families of the deceased have far more worries and things to consider other than the front page of The Star. They, I’m sure, would rather the Star didn’t run with that picture, but its close to irrelevant to them at this time in terms of the bigger picture. The outraged have little or nothing to do with the actual events.

        1. pedeyw

          I would trust people outside the situation as being better able to tell dubious morality than someone directly affected.

  4. Atticus

    I see The Examiner is still there so it was probably a case of the Star just selling out rather than any moral objection.

    2. the good helen

      fully agree, broadsheet can you remove that page. its shocking to see and it would be extremely upsetting for any friend of family to see this. It was quiet upsetting for me and I don’t know any of them.

      1. swoon

        My brother has just died in a tragic gruesome accident.I feel completely..I dont’t feel at all,I can’t explain anything right now…what has happened….,anyway ,whats on broadsheet,wonder how they’ve covered it?

  7. Spaghetti Hoop

    I can only imagine that the families find ALL of the reporting distressing. They cannot avoid the rolling news in the airports and the Berkeley hospitals. The video reports yesterday showed the injured being lifted into ambulances – with no attempt to hide identity. The image of the body bags is a stark one, but it depicts the tragedy in a very real way. I also believe the image illustrates clearly what happens when builders take chances with building regs. and materials. The Sun, in my view is the real rag here.

    1. swoon

      Agree.

      ‘Lets get the better looking one on the cover.This lads is what you won’t!! be sleeping with,because she’s is dead!’

  8. karlj

    No problem with showing dead people washed up on the Mediterranean shore or being removed in body bags?

      1. Don Pidgeoni

        Karl has a point. Also, see coverage of every salacious murder case ever, especially that woman in the BDSM case. And a lot of the speculative comments on here about other cases, which is a bit ironic really. There should totally be guidelines at the very least about appropriate reporting but what is “appropriate” will change so I’m not sure how you would manage this. It would be nice if such images didn’t make great* copy for papers.

        *What they probably think, not me. This is disgusting

  10. D is illusioned

    Shhhh you can’t say anything about Denis O Brien’s business dealings. He could have you in court.

    1. Jerry

      Why do you get to decide what’s acceptable and what’s not? The media pomposity around this is staggering. Yes it’s awful when accidents like this happen. No the entire nation is not in mourning. Saccharine tabloid nonsense and bandwagon jumping outrage are two sides of the same coin.

  11. Tony

    Broadsheet. The home of concerned clickbait. All the fakers love the chance to hipsplain to the rest of us why we are uncouth and they have heart.

        1. dereviled

          It’s really obscure, it’s why you haven’t heard of it. Anyway you wouldn’t like it coz it’s different.

  12. Lordblessusandsaveus

    The national Groupthink has kicked in.

    The middle class are good, never bad.
    The middle class are good, never bad.
    The middle class are good, never bad.
    The middle class are good, never bad.
    The middle class are good, never bad.

    1. scottser

      there is no such thing as ‘national groupthink’. groupthink applies to the reluctance of members of tightly knit groups to critically question leadership decisions. a nation consists of multiple complex and divisive opnions, the principal difficulty is finding any consensus at all.

      you use the term groupthink the way iona do.

  14. D2dweller

    They were handing the star out for free in Easons in Stephens green today. Placed at the checkouts with he sport pages up

    Though it was a bit peculiar at the time, makes sense now

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