In fairness to the Cork version of the Oirish Times, at least they have the honesty to admit that New Ireland isn’t quite working out as planned. 41,600 abuse cases in one year?! I don’t think even the trendiest bishop could out-do those figures. A church abuse tribunal with the bar set to its absolute lowest setting (i.e. cheque to anyone who fills out a form) would struggle to match those numbers.
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41,600 referrals – 50% of them relate to abuse or neglect.
So 20,800 relate to abuse or neglect.
So not all of those relate to abuse (physical, sexual or otherwise) and not all will be true.
Even if you did accept them all, you could easily find 21k victims of Church child abuse. It is worth pointing out that much of passed for acceptable day-to-day treatment of children when the Church had the dominant role in deciding morality would now be considered abuse.
Sadly, many of the sorts of cases referred to here have being going on for time immemorial. This is horrendous but I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you can tell the difference between abuse on a family level and institutional child abuse, condoned and aggressively covered up by one of the most powerful organisations on earth.
ABM
Ah yes. Denial and explaining away. Has New Ireland not learned anything? Moral high ground not quite so high eh? New Ireland apologists everywhere. Busy tapping and opining away from their taxpayer sponsored offices.
Excuse me what are you on about? Are you attempting to say that Ireland would be abusing without the abusers in the RCC? You do know that 1/3 of abused go on to abuse, so the RCC will be responsible for abuse through generations.
The Chilcott Inquiry farce rolls on. Began in 2009 and still no report. Our pols have plenty of company thar lear.
Looks like Teflon Tony will essentially be cleared & army generals scapegoated instead.
“Teflon Tony” – that’s a bit of an insult to yer man.
Consider a Teflon coated frying pan, I doubt it would still working well after twenty odd years.
Mine says lifetime guarantee on it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYqllpnyWrY
In fairness to the Cork version of the Oirish Times, at least they have the honesty to admit that New Ireland isn’t quite working out as planned. 41,600 abuse cases in one year?! I don’t think even the trendiest bishop could out-do those figures. A church abuse tribunal with the bar set to its absolute lowest setting (i.e. cheque to anyone who fills out a form) would struggle to match those numbers.
41,600 referrals – 50% of them relate to abuse or neglect.
So 20,800 relate to abuse or neglect.
So not all of those relate to abuse (physical, sexual or otherwise) and not all will be true.
Even if you did accept them all, you could easily find 21k victims of Church child abuse. It is worth pointing out that much of passed for acceptable day-to-day treatment of children when the Church had the dominant role in deciding morality would now be considered abuse.
Sadly, many of the sorts of cases referred to here have being going on for time immemorial. This is horrendous but I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you can tell the difference between abuse on a family level and institutional child abuse, condoned and aggressively covered up by one of the most powerful organisations on earth.
Ah yes. Denial and explaining away. Has New Ireland not learned anything? Moral high ground not quite so high eh? New Ireland apologists everywhere. Busy tapping and opining away from their taxpayer sponsored offices.
Excuse me what are you on about? Are you attempting to say that Ireland would be abusing without the abusers in the RCC? You do know that 1/3 of abused go on to abuse, so the RCC will be responsible for abuse through generations.
Don’t forget that, dumb fupping apologist.
Do you think Michael Higgins should apologise?
For what gimpy?
I pray for your soul.
:-)
On top of the moon, clunky. Over it is.
Ah. The annual Shark story. Good stuff.
The ‘abandoned tanker full of rats’ update can’t be far behind.
RATZILLA 3.
I like the idea of a UK Labour leader, who would apologise for the invasion of Iraq. Unfortunately, I am not sure he would win an election.