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Barry Murphy tweetz:
In Ireland, does a landowner have the legal right to actually carry out this threat?
Anyone?
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Spotted at an unnamed location.
Barry Murphy tweetz:
In Ireland, does a landowner have the legal right to actually carry out this threat?
Anyone?
Dog owners are the new cyclists.
Are you refering to that dog owners are getting a bad rep and the general public is ganging up on them or that dog owners dont think the rules apply to them and are just all asshats?
the latter, unfortunately.
I hope he does…. The attitude of some dog owners is a joke…
Best to kill them all and worry about it later yea? Dope
That’s not uncommon. However about the legality he’d be nuts to shoot someones pooch. He may be on the receiving end of a few shots himself.
Perfectly lawful for a farmer to shoot dogs in his land if worrying sheep or other animals.
Sure. Why not?
If it’s a section of private property.
Farmers can have shotgun licences to kill pests. A dog can be just as dangerous to livestock as a fox.
Obviously looks like they had a problem and this is probably just an idle threat.
People need to respect the wishes of private land owners.
Do they? Why?
Because it’s acres of scattered land and your profit margin at risk.
I understand people want to enjoy country walks but that requires investment in trails and stout fencing to protect public and livestock. Our neighbours have built up a fine network:
http://www.walksaroundbritain.co.uk/rightsofway
There is also the issue of public liability here and a general air of discouraging the public; rights-of-way in Ireland are fraught with problems and insurance claims can be random. This farmer is fine with ramblers but a couple of hyper dogs wil run a flock ragged in ten minutes and you will not stop them.
Aside: If you are walking a dog and are followed by cattle then let your dog run out of the field; cows especially will attack the threat but ignore you.
A farmer can shoot a dog on his land is his livestock ‘in immediate need of protection’ and ‘the means of protection adopted or proposed to be adopted were or would be reasonable having regard to all the circumstances’.
Basically if there’s a dog roaming free near his livestock, he can take steps, including shooting to protect them. Wouldn’t be the same with a dog on a leash.
What about cats, what is the legal situation there?
The legal situation if you see a cat on your land is to immediately pat it, maybe have a quick play and then feed it. If it is very cute, you can make a vine of your interaction.
Is that a legal “requirement” or merely a “suggestion”?
It’s a cat-egory one a fence
Anybody walking a cat should be shot.
What if we built a small catwalk on his land? You know, for fashion shows and whatnot.
+meow
Have you ever managed to get your cat to go on a mountain walk with you ?
I met someone walking their cat up Bray Head earlier in the summer.
Cats do occasionally get a vagary and go on little outings with you from time
I’d say if there was a piece of tuna at the top of their mountain you’d never know
It depends: if you’re a dentist and it’s a big cat with a cute name you’re pretty much screwed.
Short answer: In certain circumstances, yes – a landowner is entitled to shoot a dog “worrying” livestock. but the circumstances are specified under statute (DOGS (PROTECTION OF LIVESTOCK) ACT, 1960) and in more detail in The Control of Dogs Act (1986)[http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0032/sec0023.html#sec23]
If you’re walking quietly across land with your dog on a lead, Farmer Knuckles can’t come out from behind a hedge and start shooting. But if your dog is off the lead, or alone, and bothering livestock then the farmer is entitled to make a judgement and not face sanction or damages, as long as they notify Gardai within 48 hours.
Dogs worrying sheep, in particular expectant ewes, is a significant problem, as this Irish Examiner article from last year outline [http://www.irishexaminer.com/farming/news/legal-defences-against-dog-shooting-damages-258570.html]
If a dog is worrying livestock (i.e. off leash) the landowner or their representative can shoot it.
Dog owners are general irresponsible, witness the excrement across playing fields and park lands (this is not a small minority problem), and even more so when it comes to excercising their animals in rural areas
“Dog owners are general irresponsible”
This is a stupid generalisation. If a majority of dog owners were irresponsible and didn’t pick up after their dogs then the entire country would be covered in dog shit. Also bare in mind that many people have difficulty telling dog feces from fox feces and ca feces and assume that any waste on the ground is from dogs.
*cat feces
plus cats hide their poo (most of the time) making it bloody impossible to even realise if your about to put your foot, hand into it. CATS ARE THE DEVIL!! – just saying.
“This is a stupid generalization”
It’s not. Too many lazy selfish idiots have dogs.
Too many lazy selfish idiots have access to the internet it also seems
Try harder.
I agree that too many lazy selfish idiots have dogs. there shouldn’t be any lazy selfish idiots with dogs. That does not mean the same things as ‘dog owners are generally irresponsible’
The laws forcing owners to pick up after their dogs are only very recent. The country wasn’t entirely covered in dog poo before then.
Plenty of laws, just nobody to enforce the fines.
Ever been to Inchicore /Kilmainham? More dogsh1t than path.
Wow. generalisation much?
I think it’s a general Irish attitude that littering/not cleaning up after yourself or your animal is ok.
If money went into enforcement for a few years, you’d see it all change. Seatbelts and drunk-driving used to be the same.
Farmers do have that right, If they see a dog ‘worrying’ their animals they can take action….
Yes he has that right.
If you can’t control your own dog in public or on someones land, you risk having it killed to protect livestock or indeed, people.
Urban pooch lovers need to cop on and learn the reality of where their darling fits in the hierarchy of things.
I remember being in a rural pub years ago when a three legged dog walked in with a shotgun and said “I’m a lookin’ for the man that shot my paw”……..
*cough
*cue tumbleweed in 3….2…..
Haha nice one!
Very good
Loads of those up on the Beara Way in Cork/Kerry. Including the even-more-ominous: dogs have been shot.
Farmers are right to protect their livestock esp. when on their own land.
BTW guys, the sign has nothing to do with dog faeces.
Anyways, the sign says ‘no exceptions’ which must include dogs on leads. This seems rather silly.
I’ve seen a similar sign at the entrance to the zigzags in Glenmalure – if that’s not the same one.
“which must include dogs on leads”
No it doesn’t and well you know it.
I don’t know it and neither do you. How could you, when It says ‘dogs are strictly prohibited’ and ‘no exceptions’? That’s pretty explicit. Do you interpret those words differently?
Thankfully farmers don’t have the authority to make up their own laws.
People who get on better with their pets than they do with people are usually poorly socialized from childhood and don’t understand the importance of mutual respect among community and citizens. They think they can do as they please when it comes to their pets without regard for people or the law.
Well, they’re wrong.
Maybe people are just d***heads and so some people prefer to hang out with their dog cause their a decent skin.
*they’re
people are generally nice and much better conversationalists than animals who are generally food
People are a scum riddled plague on this planet, the best thing that could happen is if we where wiped into oblivion. Dogs on the other hand are awesome, they’re not d***heads about grammar mistakes and are generally chill and just want to hang in your company.
Great idea but it’d be cruel to deprive such an intelligent species of the company of a simple one.
They won’t let you bring your dog into Kildare Village Retail Park either. But they don’t shoot them if you disobey as far as I know. I got a stern warning and didn’t want to push it. It was my parent’s dog, they’d be upset if it was shot.
It’s not the dog’s fault in all these cases though, it’s just acting like a dog, the owners however should know better, so the farmer should have the right to shoot the owners instead and get to the source of the problem.
Midleton Cork is treated like a poo box for dogs by dog owners there. Can’t go for a run without constantly dodging it.
Can we shoot rampant cultchies if they wander across the threshold and worry the dog?
Why? Are ye lambin?
Lambin’ aint easy
That was mint
I’d make bits of you in an arm wrestle
That has to be the manliness post I have ever seen, “yeah anonymous internet commentator I would totally beat you in an arm wrestle” says the anonymous internet commentator.
cant believe you’re afraid of people on the internet. don’t worry bro, I’m not coming at you
How dare you make gender assumptions.
If that toothless sister-riding cabbage-stinking roordle yokel came NEAR my dog he’d be waking up to a dead herd and a burning barn >_<
Has your dog got foot and mouth disease or what?
It’s the Western Way near Leenane overlooking Killary Harbour. Did the owners get funding for opening up their land and, if so, on what terms? Not of course that they should under any circumstances have to put up with a risk of sheep-worrying.
Shoot away.
At least the spelling and grammar are ok.
Why do I keep seeing Nidge with his Jack Russell on a lead, smiling at the farmer and going “What’s tha you say, eh?” while reaching into his pocket…
Is this the same sign from last year. Because the post is near identical to one from last year.
Unfortunately, dogs can’t read.
That’s just what they want you to think.
i have a bit of ground a few acres,the farm next door has been told to keep his sheep in his field. now my dog runs around my field and sometimes his sheep are in my field.the sheep jump in and jump out. they are like kangaroos. I think i will put a notice up ” any sheep found in this field will be shot “
You should, defo.
A few cows got into my garden once an made a hames of some vegetable beds. I should really have shot them but then I’d have been blamed for foolishly leaving the gate open.
https://youtu.be/a5s5qGg01nE