Sins Of The Fathers



Eoin Neylon, president of Fianna Fáil’s youth section

Following last night revelations of local councillors on the take, including two Fianna Fáil members….

Eoin Neylon president of Ográ Fianna Fail writes:

The saddest thing about the Prime Time special is that it will serve to put off more young people from getting involved in politics. What is needed is exactly the opposite however. Only by standing up for high moral and ethical standards can you hope to have them implemented.

Only by asking the tough questions where it matters will things change. That is why Ógra’s five representatives to the Fianna Fáil Ard Chomhairle will be proposing the immediate adoption of measures, including:

An obligation for annual full public publication of all political party accounts;

One single independent oversight body for ethics in public life covering both elected politicians and officials.

Sufficiant staffing of same body to carry out rigorous investigations of declarations akin to those done by RTÉ.

All candidates for election should sign a declaration of interests before the election….


Ográ Fianna Fail

Earlier: A Limerick A Day

26 thoughts on “Sins Of The Fathers

  1. george

    Fianna Fail is and has always been full of corruption. Why do these young people want to be part of it? What fantasy ideal of Fianna Fail do they think they have joined?

    1. Nigel

      But they\re all corrupt. If you’re not corrupt you either don’t get in or you’re marginalised and powerless. Rigged game. I spit on FF, but those are good, obvious proposals that should have been implemented decades ago. For what it’s worth.

      1. roitde

        I know at least one not-corrupt FF TD, the fact he’s not high up in the party is purely down to the fact he isn’t corrupt and wouldn’t play with Bertie and the boys.

        They are out there

        1. Nigel

          I know. They’re also the ones who resign if they do something wrong, and I’m sure the rest break their backsides laughing when they do.

        2. Anomanomanom

          Then they’re still corrupt for not exposing it back then. Rather just sit picking up their wages.

    2. ahjayzis

      It boggles the mind. it’s not like FF has any ideology or core beliefs that would draw people to it, it’s an empty vessel. Ambition must be it. I think it’s like football clubs for some people – FF is my club, I guess I’ll join them.

      1. Neilo

        Its lack of ideology is or was its strength. Pro-social provision could coexist with pro-business, the rural and urban blocs were about the same size. Economic hawks like John Fleming – a PD manqué – can excoriate public expenditure overruns while the party leadership would only be too happy to let the good times roll in office.

      2. classter

        There is a tribal aspect to it as well.

        There are families around the country who, whatever FF’s failings, consider themselves FF people – like sports fans following a losing team, or people proud of their hometown even if it is objectively sh!t.

        I’ve known some decent humans twist themselves in knots while explaining the self-delusion that allows them explain away the ill-doing of Haughey, Ahern, et al.

    3. Caroline

      They’ve joined a party with a strong structure built over decades, whose old guard has been eviscerated leaving a much-shortened greasy pole to climb for any youngsters with the stomach to hold their nose and step over the corpses.

  2. Junkface

    Young people who want to get involved in Politics and change the country should NOT be joining FF or FG. FF ,FG & Labour are the problem in Ireland.

    1. classter

      That is not true.

      More important are things like general education levels, the disproportionate political power of rural areas, lack of an emigrant vote, Irish prediliction for everybody ‘getting along’, a naive faith in a chieftain figure who delivers, relatively small & highly networked society, a distrust (from pre-independence, maybe even from Gaelic times) of centralised government…

  3. ahjayzis

    Careful what you wish for.

    Joining Fianna Fail in and of itself should be grounds for investigations into probity and integrity.

    1. scottser

      could you imagine how it looks on a CV?
      you’d be laughed out of every HR department in the country..

  4. Bort

    If there was ever, ever a need for a time machine it is now, so we can nip 20 years into the future and see what Eoin Neylon is up to?

  5. nellyb

    “Only by asking the tough questions where it matters will things change. ” – no they won’t, until there is a concerted and SUSTAINED effort to follow through. Tough questions with no relevant legal framework are like farts in a lift. Sharp and unpleasant, but go away quickly enough to forget. Check the dates in that paper:

    “An Overview of the Irish Anti-Corruption Legislative Framework
    The Irish anti-bribery framework is a complex system of case law and interconnected statutes contained in the Prevention of Corruption Acts 1889 to 2010, the Public Bodies Corrupt Practices Act 1889, the Ethics in Public Office Act 1995 and the Proceeds of Crime (Amendment) Act 2005. In light of the fragmented nature of Irish law in this area, and the weaknesses in the legislation which have resulted in difficulties in securing prosecutions, the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) Anti-Bribery Group has recommended that there is a need to extend Irish anti-corruption laws to mirror the overhaul of the UK anti-bribery framework (see Recent Developments)”
    -LKShields, July 2013

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