FG = bourgeois, FF = petit bourgeois
Before 1970 anyway.
Beppy
It’s not Civil War politics. It’s two very complex and effective local party machines, each predicated on being different from the other lot.
Eoin
I’m sure they’ll come together in the end to deliver the shaft to the Irish people, right on cue.
dav
+100
pedeyw
I’m looking forward to it. We could with something other than FF/FG all the time. Like maybe a decent centre left party.
ahjayzis
They already are together – together they dominate opposition and government, trading places and keeping the same policy – that nothing must fundamentally change.
ahjayzis
I just love the special Fianna Fail logic.
We can’t govern with FG because we promised we’d get rid of them from government – so instead we’ll vote them to govern alone and unfettered, with a full cabinet of ministers.
Really pathetic stuff to keep the Lanigan’s Ball charade going, one steps in, the other steps out.
FG (for once) have totally aced the spin war, they’ve made FF looks totally unreasonable.
My Meaty Member
Is it the same over there ahjaysiz?
I’ve spent time in both countries and had a tough time deciding which one’s political life was more banal
For example yesterday on sky news (it was on in the gym)
first story : Pressure on Osborne to show tax returns
second story: Royals play game of cricket
You couldn’t make it up
ahjayzis
Oh it’s worse over here. FPTP takes the oxygen out of everything. Everyone pretends the Tories have the entire country behind them and their froth-mouthed rightwing rhetoric is somehow ‘centrist’ based on their overall majority achieved on a third of the vote from a quarter of the electorate. I dunno why Britain’s considered a democratic country really.
one’s in a blushirt the other’s in a Charvet one
FG = bourgeois, FF = petit bourgeois
Before 1970 anyway.
It’s not Civil War politics. It’s two very complex and effective local party machines, each predicated on being different from the other lot.
I’m sure they’ll come together in the end to deliver the shaft to the Irish people, right on cue.
+100
I’m looking forward to it. We could with something other than FF/FG all the time. Like maybe a decent centre left party.
They already are together – together they dominate opposition and government, trading places and keeping the same policy – that nothing must fundamentally change.
I just love the special Fianna Fail logic.
We can’t govern with FG because we promised we’d get rid of them from government – so instead we’ll vote them to govern alone and unfettered, with a full cabinet of ministers.
Really pathetic stuff to keep the Lanigan’s Ball charade going, one steps in, the other steps out.
FG (for once) have totally aced the spin war, they’ve made FF looks totally unreasonable.
Is it the same over there ahjaysiz?
I’ve spent time in both countries and had a tough time deciding which one’s political life was more banal
For example yesterday on sky news (it was on in the gym)
first story : Pressure on Osborne to show tax returns
second story: Royals play game of cricket
You couldn’t make it up
Oh it’s worse over here. FPTP takes the oxygen out of everything. Everyone pretends the Tories have the entire country behind them and their froth-mouthed rightwing rhetoric is somehow ‘centrist’ based on their overall majority achieved on a third of the vote from a quarter of the electorate. I dunno why Britain’s considered a democratic country really.
Yes it figures. Thanks
True Detective Season 3.
Tweedleum and tweedledumber….