This Just In


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Acting Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s nomination for Taoiseach is rejected for the third time.

Results of Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin’s vote to follow.

Earlier: ‘We Are Stepping Back’

Previously: Doing The Sums


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Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin’s nomination for Taoiseach is rejected, also for the third time.


28 thoughts on “This Just In

  1. Smashmouth

    So 8 years after going bust we will have a Fianna Fail leader again?

    Howay the lads!

    Banana Republic

    1. classter

      A FF leader who was a senior cabinet minister for the 14 years in the run-up to the crash!

  2. ReproBertie

    A number of the Independents won’t support a FG Taoiseach, irrespective of who the candidate may be, because of FG’s committment to some sort of move toward tackling the 8th.

    1. Kieran NYC

      What annoys me is the lack of government umpteen weeks later. And the unwillingness of over 100 TDs to attempt to do what they were elected to – to form a government and implement their campaign promises to the people who voted for them. Parties on the left have made zero effort. The Independents are like headless chickens and FF, SF have ruled everyone out.

      If FG want to get rid of Kenny after all this is settled, I won’t shed any tears.

  3. Joan Bruton

    We need to get rid of independents, too local in their out look, do they not realise what county council is ?

    Time to adopt the german system, everyone in a party and your party doesn’t count until you get 5% of the vote !

    No Lowry
    No Renua

    Bliss !!

    1. ahjayzis

      Good idea until you realise we’d have no Catherine Murphy, no MIck Wallace, no Joan Collins and a hell of a lot more anonymous, colourless, voiceless FG/FF backbenchers. Whatever side you’re on, I’ll take any of those indy’s over gladhanding voting fodder you only hear from once every 5 years.

      1. Kieran NYC

        But that’s three candidates. Add Daly and the SocDems to that list and you’d get a party with a threshold above 5%.

        It would certainly concentrate the mind.

        1. ahjayzis

          You wouldn’t have the SocDems though, Murphy, Donnelly and Shorthall would never have met. Shorthall would still be in Labour. It’d give the whip even more power, as no one can leave without leaving parliament.

          1. Kieran NYC

            Ah yes… You have a point… haha

            I guess it would have to go hand-in-hand with real local government reforms to give Councillors a chance to get real experience on a quasi-national level.

            We really did miss a unique moment in trying to get a whole new Constitution =[

      2. classter

        You have a point ahjayzis.

        But Wallace would be no great loss.

        The occasional bit of grandstanding he has done on NAMA could easily be done by Murphy or other.

    2. Owen

      Joan, howya, Owen here again.

      Listen, I was thinking, seen as nobody wants Kenny or Marto, and nobody really likes you cause you have a horrible appeal, zero personal skills and are lost in your own self worth…… I was thinking I might set up me ow(e)n party, with you on board. You could be my IW liaison.

      I’m going to get Renua and the Indos in to. We’re calling it “Owen and the RenuaIndoGreens”. We’ll announce the party with a musical in the Gaiety.

    3. Medium Sized C

      They do realise what a county council is and how it works.
      That is why they are so local in their outlook.

    4. read twice

      Are you saying this predictable repeat soap opera that we witnessed today is the fault of independent TDs? I would say it’s more to do with the party-political culture that has dominated the Oireachtas for decades. This limbo has arisen from the inability of FF and FG to put aside their traditional PARTY politics and get on with it.

      But I suspect the problem lies with the fact that Dail Eireann, like most European parliaments, has both Legislative power and Executive power. I’d agree that the Executive government should be “stable” and “united” and whatever, but the Legislative assembly would be better composed of independents than parties. Something like the US system, except I’d keep our PR-STV electoral system, so we wouldn’t have the two-party state that they have in the Shtates. Our laws would then be based on open debate amongst independents, without PARTY-political interference. And our executive agencies (e.g. HSE, TII, IAA) would be managed by a President Squee (plus his cabinet). Sorted!

  4. Steve

    After all the shenanigans of the last few weeks Im sure all those anti FG / Labour gov voters are only delighted that we will ultimately end up with a single FG (20+ minister and junior ministers) and the odd 7-10 Indos government. well for about 6 months anyway until FF pull the plug.


    Well played SF / FF / Indos protest vote.

    Well played.

  5. 15 cents

    oh god .. its guna be kenny isnt it? he’s going to be the big T again :(
    and he’ll think he’s great, first ever FG to double up on terms of being T.
    whereas in fact he’s done an awful job, the economy is growing yet all our
    services are in tatters. the class divide is getting wider, and is all he’ll focus on
    is “the economy is great. im great. stop whinging” .. whinging being dying in
    hospital corridors, not having access to vital services, and still paying 51% tax .. groooaaan

    1. classter

      I do think that Kenny is very poor.

      There is a serious problem with an electorate which votes FF for ages, let’s them create an almighty mess, Then votes in FG to clean it up & once things start to improve, switches support back to FF.

      It has happened time & time again.

      The problem with various public services has a lot more to do with the govt which was in place for most of the last few decades rather than the last 5 years in the midst of a very serious financial crisis

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