Has he looked for a second chance, or is he unrepentant?
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Not when he has demonstrated a ongoing pattern of behaviour, no.
While people might have a point about Chris Brown, I’m not sure how great Rihanna feels about having this picture pulled out every time.
moel
the idea of Ri Ri sitting at home in her jocks, reading BS like the rest of us, is sweet
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Well, it was tweeted first and continues to be and is a meme for some people.
Starina
Nope. not when he gets a tattoo of a battered woman on his neck and has shown no remorse and actually seems to think the whole thing is a badge of honour. absolute scumbag.
I don’t often lol in real life but I did when I saw Frankie Boyle’s response to Chris Brown’s tweet that break dancing should be an Olympic Sport –
“How’s about inter-gender boxing, you’re in with a shot then mate!”
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Not a fan of his comedy but his twitter holds some real gems. Also, his column in the Guardian is pretty bang on.
Digs
Has he done it again? I thought they made up and he did some therapy after this happened the first time? I’m shocked he’s gone and done it again! Thought the therapy and his remorse were genuine. What a low life to pretend he’d repented.
Birneybau2
For real?
Anne
What happened her? Did she not have his tea ready?
Harry Molloy
Disgusting comment but I’d expect no less from a privileged white cis gender
Anne
And I’d expect nothing less from a humourless windbag..
Shhssss.You’re not allowed laugh…or our Harold will think you’re privileged and disgusting.
Harry Molloy
Ha :-) You’re no craic Annie, if you were in a different mood you’d have given someone else hard time for your comment.
I was only taking the pee, I’m all for battering the wife.
Or Emma Roberts, Carmen Electra, Whitney Houston (that went both ways), Brenda Harvey (Lionel Ritchie’s wife), Hillary Clinton, Stephen Hawking’s second wife, Christian Slater’s wife…. and it goes on and on, there are plenty, from either gender.
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Perhaps but female celebrities don’t tend to get lionised and forgiven (i.e. blame her) in the same way as male celebrities.
In some instances ‘celebs’ get that treatment, but it is, with regard to the “lionising”, pretty much a 50:50 split…. I believe. And again, I mean that with regard to ‘celebs’.
Plenty of “you go girl” when she’s at it, and tends to be but “he’d had a few / was under terrible stress” when he’s at it. That is, the woman is encouraged, the man given an excuse.
Neither is acceptable, both have the same or similar outcome, from what I see.
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“Plenty of “you go girl” when she’s at it”
People know it is wrong no matter.
I am not sure your examples are valid. Emma Roberts fair enough. But I suspect that for most of these it was a two way street with toxic relationships and people unable to handle themselves. I doubt the validity of the claim against Hillary Clinton tbh. Lots of nonsense spread about her because people simply hate her. No evidence for Stephen Hawking. Brenda Harvey beat up Lionel because she found in him bed with another woman. Christian Slater’s wife threw a glass at him. None of that is right but then neither suggest a pattern of sustained abuse.
Domestic violence and the treatment of men is still evolving but there have been great strides in recognition for victims of both genders. Yes, the outcomes are terrible for any victim but you cannot ignore that for women, the outcomes are worse.
” ….because she found in him bed with another woman.” Did you just make an excuse for domestic abuse?
Dodgy territory…. very dodgy. Is cheating an acceptable excuse for using fists now…. I’d doubt that’s what you meant. A slip of the tongue / keyboard I’m sure.
I know you didn’t mean it Don, but it’s that flow of the tongue, representative heuristics, habitual thinking…. that is also a big issue men face more than women on this matter.
Please note I am in no way trying to say men get it worse than women which is common accusation when men speak up.
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I think we are largely in agreement it’s all bad Don :)
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This is bit is a response to the “just like women can” comment below from Ethereal….
“Campaign group Parity claims assaults by wives and girlfriends are often ignored by police and media”
i already know(or believe) male victims of domestic assault are not taken as seriously which I think is outrageous. the article does not in any way disprove what I said…maybe you linked the wrong one?
ethereal
nvm…i think i misunderstood your point
i fully believe men and women who are victims of domestic violence should have equal protection and it’s rotten that they don’t
Of course I’m not making an excuse, don’t be a tit.
Yes there are issues with male victims. There is also a huge issue with LGBT domestic violence. BUT, power dynamics, money, children, gender etc mean it will continue to be worse for women. 1 woman a week is killed by her partner in the UK, some of these from police not taking it seriously enough or a “lack of evidence”. It is outrageous.
True equality will be when a man is able to hit a woman back after she hits him first but only after she hits him first. And yes, violence against women is wrong, but so is violence against men, by men or women.
Avon Barksdale
So you’re saying she deserved it
ethereal
hmm no that is not equality. men can bring charges of assault against women just like women can against men
Shocking and satirical at the same time…its true though, Chris Brown is a scumbag
Smashmouth
Should we have the same vitirol directed at Billy Joel when he plays again?
MoyestWithExcitement
Sure, why not?
Starina
well he is pants, after all.
Brother Barnabas
I think you’ll find Billy Joel is not actually black.
Owen
I would not know who Chris Brown was if he had not beat up Rihanna. How many are the same? He is a scumbag rapper which appeals to me on zero levels. He is lower then ‘sex tape’ celebs, because his sex tape is actually beating up his girlfriend and being proud of it.
No second chances for anyone no?
Would that be only his second chance?
Has he looked for a second chance, or is he unrepentant?
Not when he has demonstrated a ongoing pattern of behaviour, no.
While people might have a point about Chris Brown, I’m not sure how great Rihanna feels about having this picture pulled out every time.
the idea of Ri Ri sitting at home in her jocks, reading BS like the rest of us, is sweet
Well, it was tweeted first and continues to be and is a meme for some people.
Nope. not when he gets a tattoo of a battered woman on his neck and has shown no remorse and actually seems to think the whole thing is a badge of honour. absolute scumbag.
Just googled that… ffs what a tool
I don’t often lol in real life but I did when I saw Frankie Boyle’s response to Chris Brown’s tweet that break dancing should be an Olympic Sport –
“How’s about inter-gender boxing, you’re in with a shot then mate!”
Not a fan of his comedy but his twitter holds some real gems. Also, his column in the Guardian is pretty bang on.
Has he done it again? I thought they made up and he did some therapy after this happened the first time? I’m shocked he’s gone and done it again! Thought the therapy and his remorse were genuine. What a low life to pretend he’d repented.
For real?
What happened her? Did she not have his tea ready?
Disgusting comment but I’d expect no less from a privileged white cis gender
And I’d expect nothing less from a humourless windbag..
I laughed :)
Shhssss.You’re not allowed laugh…or our Harold will think you’re privileged and disgusting.
Ha :-) You’re no craic Annie, if you were in a different mood you’d have given someone else hard time for your comment.
I was only taking the pee, I’m all for battering the wife.
Delicious with chips.
Old boy – Disgusting.
Rihanna forgave him. Why can’t you?
Could’ve put the same poster up for John Lennon
*gets popcorn, doesn’t mention Bowie*
He was murdered pre-internet and point depot.
https://youtu.be/mIOY2ezMy9A
Or George Best. Maybe he’ll get an airport named after him too.
And Eric Clapton
You can add unrepentant racism to him, too.
And Danny Simpson.
And OJ Simpson
Yeah but nobody’s talking about his stellar performances at right back for Leicester.
For balance……
Or Emma Roberts, Carmen Electra, Whitney Houston (that went both ways), Brenda Harvey (Lionel Ritchie’s wife), Hillary Clinton, Stephen Hawking’s second wife, Christian Slater’s wife…. and it goes on and on, there are plenty, from either gender.
Perhaps but female celebrities don’t tend to get lionised and forgiven (i.e. blame her) in the same way as male celebrities.
In some instances ‘celebs’ get that treatment, but it is, with regard to the “lionising”, pretty much a 50:50 split…. I believe. And again, I mean that with regard to ‘celebs’.
Plenty of “you go girl” when she’s at it, and tends to be but “he’d had a few / was under terrible stress” when he’s at it. That is, the woman is encouraged, the man given an excuse.
Neither is acceptable, both have the same or similar outcome, from what I see.
“Plenty of “you go girl” when she’s at it”
People know it is wrong no matter.
I am not sure your examples are valid. Emma Roberts fair enough. But I suspect that for most of these it was a two way street with toxic relationships and people unable to handle themselves. I doubt the validity of the claim against Hillary Clinton tbh. Lots of nonsense spread about her because people simply hate her. No evidence for Stephen Hawking. Brenda Harvey beat up Lionel because she found in him bed with another woman. Christian Slater’s wife threw a glass at him. None of that is right but then neither suggest a pattern of sustained abuse.
Domestic violence and the treatment of men is still evolving but there have been great strides in recognition for victims of both genders. Yes, the outcomes are terrible for any victim but you cannot ignore that for women, the outcomes are worse.
” ….because she found in him bed with another woman.” Did you just make an excuse for domestic abuse?
Dodgy territory…. very dodgy. Is cheating an acceptable excuse for using fists now…. I’d doubt that’s what you meant. A slip of the tongue / keyboard I’m sure.
I know you didn’t mean it Don, but it’s that flow of the tongue, representative heuristics, habitual thinking…. that is also a big issue men face more than women on this matter.
Please note I am in no way trying to say men get it worse than women which is common accusation when men speak up.
.
I think we are largely in agreement it’s all bad Don :)
.
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This is bit is a response to the “just like women can” comment below from Ethereal….
“Campaign group Parity claims assaults by wives and girlfriends are often ignored by police and media”
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence
i already know(or believe) male victims of domestic assault are not taken as seriously which I think is outrageous. the article does not in any way disprove what I said…maybe you linked the wrong one?
nvm…i think i misunderstood your point
i fully believe men and women who are victims of domestic violence should have equal protection and it’s rotten that they don’t
Hear, hear Ethereal ! :)
* hugs all round *
Of course I’m not making an excuse, don’t be a tit.
Yes there are issues with male victims. There is also a huge issue with LGBT domestic violence. BUT, power dynamics, money, children, gender etc mean it will continue to be worse for women. 1 woman a week is killed by her partner in the UK, some of these from police not taking it seriously enough or a “lack of evidence”. It is outrageous.
* more hugs *
Spar….
:)
Wow… wow! Hillary Clinton?! Love it. 10er says the first thing she does in the Oval office is an intern.
“I told you I’d get you back you fupping b**tard!!”
Imagine is an awful song. People keep saying its amazing but it’s not. It’s terrible.
+1 Pure unadulterated pap so it is, so it is.
Imagine no umbrellas
True equality will be when a man is able to hit a woman back after she hits him first but only after she hits him first. And yes, violence against women is wrong, but so is violence against men, by men or women.
So you’re saying she deserved it
hmm no that is not equality. men can bring charges of assault against women just like women can against men
Hah!
This bit made me laugh… “just like women can…”
Carry on.
curious…why did it make you laugh?
It’s patently untrue.
That’s why.
Google it.
i don’t have to google it, i know from experience that it’s true
We may have experienced two sides of the same coin then.
#notalldomesticviolence
Shocking and satirical at the same time…its true though, Chris Brown is a scumbag
Should we have the same vitirol directed at Billy Joel when he plays again?
Sure, why not?
well he is pants, after all.
I think you’ll find Billy Joel is not actually black.
I would not know who Chris Brown was if he had not beat up Rihanna. How many are the same? He is a scumbag rapper which appeals to me on zero levels. He is lower then ‘sex tape’ celebs, because his sex tape is actually beating up his girlfriend and being proud of it.