Was It For This?

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Ciara Kelly tweetz:

British pregnancy advisory service stepping up to plate for Irish women with advert in Irish Times. @bpas1968 [British Pregnancy Advisory Service] thank you.

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58 thoughts on “Was It For This?”

  3. newsjustin

    Shrewd move. Building brand recognition in a market that may open up soon. Getting a jump on Marie Stopes while they’re having problems with the UK industry regulator.

    1. MoyestWithExcitement

      Brand recognition and marketing? Such cold words from a religious zealot who claims to care about women and their unborn children.

      1. newsjustin

        Users of this phone line will have already aborted their unborn child. So it’s no good to the unborn. This is a marketing move, plain and simple.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          I thought you cared about the mothers? No? You don’t want them getting help and health advice?

          1. newsjustin

            If you’ve taken an illegal drug, aborted your pregnancy and are worried about your health; you should be heading to an actual doctor or an emergency room. Not calling a nurse in a different country. I’d give the same advice to anyone who takes any illegal or unprescribed drug and isn’t feeling well.

          3. MoyestWithExcitement

            So an unborn baby is the same as getting high? Wow, you really don’t care about the unborn babies either. What if they’re worried the doctor will report them to the police for having an abortion and they’re sent to prison for it? Tough?

          5. Rob_G

            I’ve always thought that that George Soros fellow was a class act; this only serves to reinforce that view.

          6. WhiteKnight

            “Monster Soros”
            Sounds like a class name for one of those low budget plasticine dinosaur films.

          7. WhiteKnight

            But yeah, the guy’s a pretty awesome and generous philanthropist.
            Let’s forget all that cos aborshuns though.

          10. Lorcan Nagle

            Fact time: the so-called abortion pill isn’t illegal in ireland, it’s available on prescription.

        2. ahjayzis

          It’s no good to the period she just induced, true.

          So why bother at all? if she starts bleeding due to a side-effect let the bitch die, eh? Or risk 14 years in prison. She’s only a trampy uterus after all, right?

          Love them both my hoop, your mask slips again.

          1. newsjustin

            Why would you use the words bitch and tramp in discussing this?

            If you’re unwell after taking illegal or unprescribed drugs you should go to a doctor or emergency room.

          2. ahjayzis

            And I’m sure if Lipitor or Cialis was illegal and you were using it and suffered a reaction you’d be straight in a taxi to A&E for treatment and your 14 year prison sentence.

    2. LW

      Newsjustin, I think you’ll find they’ve long been active in this market. However, they’re a not-for-profit charity, so not a corporation trying to increase market share

  4. dav

    I Heard an interview with their rep on Newstalk this morning. The presenter was trying to berate the BEPAS rep about their “Horrific” side effects these drugs could cause.
    The rep, calmly pointed out the presenter would consider these side effects “horrific” because he was a man!
    Brilliant shut down of the right wing knob

    1. The Real Jane

      I didn’t hear the interview and I don’t really know much about the pills and their side effects – what are they?

    2. newsjustin

      The (sales) rep gave the standard line about the outcome being “just like a heavy period”, obviously not pointing out that there is an unborn human in it that has just been aborted.

      1. The Real Jane

        What do you think an early miscarriage is like? You know, the kind that one in four pregnancies ends in spontaneously?

          2. The Real Jane

            Interestingly, Justin, in the unlikely event that this will happen to you, you will be surprised to find that the blood bit and the homunculus bit are completely indistinguishable from each other.

          3. The Real Jane

            NB, I know an embryo isn’t an homunculus, but it seems like Justin imagines an embryo to be little tiny man that just gradually gets a bit bigger over the course of a few months.

          4. newsjustin

            I’m fully aware of what an early miscarriage looks like and what it contains. Unlike you I’m no hung up on what it looks like. It is the fact that it contains the remains of an unborn human that is relevant.

          5. MoyestWithExcitement

            So you want people to envisage a tiny blob and feel outrage because it might have become a human? Good luck with that.

          6. Caroline™

            You can’t actually be sure whether your miscarriage does contain an embryo unless you had a scan beforehand. It might just be the gestational sac.

      3. AssPants

        NewJustin…. the women are a cumbersome vessel for pregnancy we should just abort them and put the fetus in an incubator.

        #admititwomenareincapableofdecidingontheirhealth

        flipp’n anti women muppets….. (also self referred to as “pro-life”, but would happily see a woman die from not providing appropriate health care)

        I nearly shouted from the roof tops with relief when I saw bpas in the Irish Times this morning. And guess what I am a man too…..imagine :0 :0 :0

          1. MoyestWithExcitement

            He’s parodying the inconsistent and irrational anti abortionist rhetoric and you’re the poster boy for inconsistent and irrational anti abortion rhetoric.

  6. Condor

    Great. Sorely needed. Now, if only our own government would step up so it isn’t required. These things take time though, so this will help in the meantime.

    1. ahjayzis

      Chemo’s another one of life’s downers. But you’d probably promote it if by law you couldn’t access it when you needed it.

      1. AssPants

        Flipp’n brilliant “ahjazis”………… that is by far the most rational and most explicit analogy I have seen for abortion. Nobody wants to have an abortion; as much as nobody wants to have to endure chemotherapy, but sometimes in this challenging world people have to make these difficult choices.

          1. ahjayzis

            Why are you commenting on this issue if you have zero comprehension of the topic?

            If you think any woman hops and skips merrily to the clinic for an abortion you’ve either never had the experience of actually meeting a human woman and realised they’re just normal people, or you have but for some reason bear an irrational distrust and contempt for 51% of our species.

            There are dozens of medical procedures that are quite unpleasant, physically or emotionally – nobody wants to be in the position to undergo them – but they’re glad they’re available when they need one.

    2. Daisy Chainsaw

      Peter, what if you were diagnosed with an illness that only had a 10% chance of killing you at that point, but were told you’d have to wait until the odds tipped to at least a 51% chance of killing you? That’s one of the results of the 8th amendment. The equal right to life of the foetus means a woman has to wait until there’s a greater chance of her dying than living to deserve treatment because of the threat to her life as opposed to her health.

      Irish women with epilepsy or mental illness could be forced off their meds because they can harm foetal development. What’s positive about a woman who’s brain has been fried by a grand mal seizure, or had a bipolar episode becaue of being taken off lithium?

    3. The Real Jane

      It is very sad. Personally, I’d rather if women were free to make their own choices about their physical and mental health but we don’t live in that utopia, Peter. We’ve got to keep pressing on until women are sovereign in their own bodies.

      I agree, it’s very sad that we aren’t yet recognized as fully actualized human beings. But we’ll get there.

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      Don’t click on the link. Lifenews will dump malware and viruses on your computer.

      And it peddles a load of lies and nonsense.

    2. ahjayzis

      So you’re saying when the anti-choice holy Joes go on BibleBasher TV in the US and solicit donations, they just blow it all in Las Vegas instead of pumping them into propaganda and glitzy posters in Ireland?

      You’re confirming the anti-choice brigades take NO money, whatsoever, from the right wing groups in the US, Rome, evangelical churches?

      Or is it just one side you want to condemn for using foreign donations?

      1. newsjustin

        “Or is it just one side you want to condemn for using foreign donations?”

        I didn’t read that link. But just on the above point. Many pro choice commentators were only too happy to condemn Irish pro life groups for taking foreign donations, until it came out recently that George Soros is Amnesty International Ireland’s, the Abortion Rights Campaign’s and the IFPA’s sugar daddy.

        1. ahjayzis

          Are you for real? It’s the go-to tactic of the anti-choice side the world over to question pro-choice funding. “Abortion Industry” type language. For decades your side has been in the pocket of foreign groups and religious sects, I’m delighted we’re fighting hellfire and brimstone with fire at last.

          1. newsjustin

            I wouldn’t know, not being a member of such groups. I thought all the pro-choice money came from tshirts and amnesty coffers.

        2. Daisy Chainsaw

          Pro choice groups have never hidden their funding, though because they publish accounts as legally required by SIPO. Now that Chuck Feeney has been “outed” as an Irish citizen, Soros has become the new anti-choice foreign money nemesis. Do you think if you say his name enough times he’ll withdraw his donations and run away?

          Remember that time Caroline Simons was soliciting on EWTN? Neither does she!
          https://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/01/14/over-to-you-caroline/
          Also she was appearing with a “priest” who has issues with flirty children seducing priests.

          1. newsjustin

            For what it’s worth. I have no problem with George Soros or how he spends his money. And I think it’s wise of those pro choice organisations to take the money.

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