Tickets for #Radiohead in Dublin sold out at 9.01? Wtf?!
— K. Winston (@Moonrise18) November 4, 2016
Whoever is selling these I hope you get a paper cut and infection from the ticket #Radiohead pic.twitter.com/8niVn5z2eR
— Miss andry (@braincavanagh) November 4, 2016
I’m starting to wonder if anyone in Dublin got a ticket for #Radiohead that isn’t a tout or a bot. What’s going on #ticketmaster?
— Darragh Foy (@darragh_foy) November 4, 2016
There you go now.
Meanwhile…
But if Radiohead have their way, those touts will be ticketless this Friday. For the Dublin show, the name of the purchaser will be on each ticket and his/her photo identification will be checked at the entrance to the venue to make sure it matches the name on the ticket.
Radiohead take an anti-tout stance with Dublin show tickets (Jim Carroll, Irish Times, November1)
Previously: Slave To The Rip Off
What about the legal touting?
You send your ticket back to Tickmaster and get your money back
Legalise and tax touting, then people can tout in a safe environment and get tested regulatory. People are going to do it anyway no matter what the price having too much tout tax starts a black market, easy for them in their ivory towers
I fail to understand people who live perfectly happily with secondary markets in everything from cars to clothes but cannot deal with a secondary market in concert tickets.
Exactly. Concerts and cars are basically the same.
Ha, brilliant
because whilst they’re both commodities that can be traded, the supply of tickets to a particular concert are unique and don’t have replaceable options in the same way.
Can’t get a 2014 Passat in blue? There’s a red one identical in every other way.
Can’t get one of 15000 tickets to a gig by a certain band, the alternative doesn’t exist.
People who do not care much about music would say that a Radiohead concert and a Blur concert are essentially the same. But those people are generally not buying concert tickets.
I would say that a Lamborghini and a Maserati are perfect substitutes. But again people who spend large sums of money on cars think quite differently on this topic I suspect.
Whether something is unique or substitutable is in the eye of the purchaser.
Same goes for stamps, etc. Should people be forced to trade mint Penny Blacks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Black) at 1p (it’s original 1840 price) forever?
I see your point; what makes the red mist descend with folk is that it’s quite clear that *something* is amiss in the way tickets are distributed. It’s not as if anybody’s promising you a Penny Black for a penny, is it? Nobody’s even presenting the idea of you being able to get one as the remotest of possibilities.
Of course, what Radiohead and lots of other bands really ought to do is to put all tickets on sale at, say, €300 and those who consider a ticket to be worth that, would pile in at that price point. Then after a certain period, bring it down to €250 etc. Some tickets will be gone by then but most will still be there. At this point the 250 brigade can join in the fun. If you think they’re only worth 50 quid, you can take your chances on what’s left by the time it goes down to that!
The promoter has priced the product at a level below what the market will bear.
Sometimes the opposite happens. From memory Prince hoped to sell out Croke Park €80 a pop in 2009. Ticket sales were reportedly very sluggish and he cancelled a few days in advance.
Did anyone shed a tear for MCD or the Purple One back then?
do people want to pay to listen to this? god.
It’s okay, I got mine :)
It’s gonna be a big old Bertie party!
The drinks are on Bertie!
Oh gooooooooood
Was that excitement (good) or despair (god)?
Orgasmic, perhaps.
But I’ll leave it up to you to interpret.
Probably best we never find out.
Loved them growing up. Yorke’s bellowing on last few albums annoys me now. 80 quid min for show. Ridiculous – all that online cr@p from them about it being about the fans. Must be paying off his divorce.
Think about how many people Radiohead employ when they’re on tour, how much expense goes into the show with the lights and screens etc, and yes, if you’re popular you get to charge a bit more.
This isn’t a one-guy-and-a -guitar production so I don’t know why you’d expect to pay one-guy-and-a -guitar prices.
Horse manure. I paid 40 pounds to go to the kid A big tent in 2000. That’s around 70 euros in today prices with conversion and inflation. And that was an outdoor door . Idiotheque was banging.
Everything , lighting etc, is set up for them in the Point.
People don’t make money out of album sales anymore, that’s why radiohead hock their stuff online for what “you wanna pay”. But the big money is in touring. That’s why they are charging 80 quid (minimum – pre sales on wed were 100 min).
There were tickets for about €62 on sale this morning.
The point pays for people to set up the lighting and electrics through ticket sales.
Are you saying that Kid A was a rip off or that the ticket should be closer to 70 than 80?
ps, that was a great gig!
The “Bends” in the Olympia was the daddy of them all….
The Point is a shed. Bands/acts bring their own production / PA etc.
Repro if that’s correct I stand completely corrected. My apologies. I was told pre sale ticket was100 and full price for Friday was 80.
I’m not a roady so i don’t know gig setups. But I’d imagine productions / licensing costs of a big tent in punchestown is a lot higher than a gig venue. But maybe I’m wrong.
“If that’s correct”? Why would I lie when it can be so easily checked on the tickettosser site? Probably restricted view but some of the tiered seating was €61.45 (plus “because we can so fup you” charges).
True, the Point/02/3arena/GS&WR freight depot is a big shed, The Artist books it out for night from Live Nation. The Artist’s production team then has complete control over deciding the seating configurations, PA, visuals and lighting required to deliver the show in that space.
Are you actually whining about a 10 euro increase in 16 years?
Jesus wept.
80 quid. You don’t have to go, in fact it’s probably better if you disagree with the prices that you don’t. Pretty straightforward really. Radiohead don’t owe you a cheap gig.
Yeah they do.
Anyway pitchfork gives the latest album a plus 9. Must jump on that band wagon.
Fascinating.
Why do Radiohead owe you a cheap gig?
He gently blew on the nape of Thom Yorkes neck in 2002.
Ha , such tender sweet nothings mani.
Ah I’m only stirring. Their crusade against capitalism , waste.com etc, blah blah blah – but give us 60/70/80/90 etc for 90.
Tickets should be capped – 50 quid. That’s a nice figure. think of it as rent control for the music industry.
And as for that overrated scrounger Springsteen ….
Attempted to buy a ticket at exactly 9.00, took no more than 15 seconds to enter the quantity/seating info and *still* sold out. Utter scam.
Just the one ticket?
Yes, I’m a loner. A weirdo.
A creep….
What the hell am I doing here?
Seeking someone to love?
You float like a feather, Mildred.
*blushes, then accidentally floats into a wall*
Same thing happened for Adele tickets. Tried to buy 2, sold out but was prompted to go to a site where they were on sale for over €900.
Long story short, they were to be a gift for my sister who later said that she was glad that no-one got her Adele tickets ‘cos it would be a misery gig to go to. And she’s a fan.
FWIW I saw her in Manchester and thought she was excellent but she needs to drop the between song banter, that’s extremely grating.
I received a “No tickets available from the venue” message at 9:01 but then bought tickets at 9:03 so it certainly wasn’t sold out at that stage.
I got one at 9.40, the system gets overloaded, you refresh and keep trying and you get there, its the same for all oversubscribed gigs, they may also release in tranches over a few hours because of IT issues related to too many people hitting the site at the same time so its worth trying over the course of an hour or two to see if you can get on it.
“For the Dublin show, the name of the purchaser will be on each ticket and his/her photo identification will be checked at the entrance to the venue to make sure it matches the name on the ticket”
How would that work, then? Let’s say for example, I buy tickets for myself and three friends. Will the tickets all have my name on them? How will my friends get in, then, with legitimately bought tickets? OK, maybe they could get in if we’re all together, but what about if I buy tickets for friends, as a gift, but not for me? How will that work?
And, can you imagine the extra length of time queueing to get in when IDs have to be checked of EVERYONE!
Livenation did something similar for the last U2 tour. The credit card used to purchase the tickets had to be presented to gain access. There was no noticeable delay as a result.
Livenation own Ticketmaster
This is the trade off between security and convenience.
Not good enough.
And nothing to do with security.
Yeah security is the wrong word.
Trade off between touts and convenience. An attempt to level the playing field.
If buying as a gift, you put their name on the tickets at the time of purchase.
Oh dear…
…imagine if you were one of those poor souls that spent hours on end, gently rocking back and forth in your cold and miserable bedsit listening to The Bends on repeat, only to find out that some Creep who only knows one song by Radiohead got two tickets to bring his girlfriend who loves Little Mix is going to see the band but you aren’t…
I’d be gutted.
It’s still funny though.
You do it to youself, you do…
i like cake
I prefer the earlier work
Seatwave could be great, if you capped it so tickets could only be sold at face value (or less)
For things like this you can include a ‘transfer’ system.
That will never happen though.
Theres a system like this in the UK called Twickets, we need something here
Toutless is pretty much like that.
+1
Yup, toutless.com is the business!
tickets for concerts should be sold like tickets for flights. You can buy a flight for anyone you want but you have to put their name on the ticket. If you want to change names it is expensive.
If you could buy and sell flights like concert tickets all cheap flights would be bought up as soon as they were on sale, then sold later for a large profit.
I don’t know why concert tickets can’t be collected at the venue like cinema tickets.
Walk up to a machine, insert the cc you booked the tickets with, print them and walk in.