A Limerick A Day

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The Church Of England has accused The National Trust and Cadbury of ‘airbrushing faith’.

This Easter is anyone brave
Enough to take a stand and save
Traditional sweets
Or are Our Lord’s treats
With Cadbury in the grave?

John Moynes

Pic; The National Trust

84 thoughts on “A Limerick A Day

  1. Turgenev

    Absolutely correct. The chocolate should be in the shape of a crucifix with an anguished tortured man writhing on it.

          1. mildred st. meadowlark

            You can keep him in the collar if you like Hoop.

            Makes him strangely amenable.

          2. mildred st. meadowlark

            Certainly not! Bertie holds a very special place in my heart.

            But if you’ve collared him… well you may as well take advantage, no? ;p

  2. Clampers Outside

    Mr Cadbury was religious, Cadbury started a tradition based on his faith, and that tradition had a religious theme……. many moons later, the company is a corporation and doesn’t give a tuppeny fupp about tradition and rolls with the prevailing attitude that Christian traditions should be squashed out….

    …but here’s a Sharia compliant chocolate for Easter all the same – http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/28/cadbury-muslims-our-candy-sharia-compliant/

    …no kosher though.

    Remove one religion and kick it on the way out the door, entertain and embrace another and it’s regressive religious laws, ignore the other….

    1. Bob

      You make it seem like they’re targeting Christianity. The egg hunt in the UK has Easter plastered all over it. The usual suspects decided it was a great excuse to bash Muslims and so plastered Facebook and Twitter with nonsense. It’s still as religious as Christmas, ie some religious people view the religious side to it, while everyone else enjoys the consumer side to it and has a bit of fun.

      The sad thing is Theresa May speaking out against it, but not speaking out against the Sharia law in the country she’s currently visiting. As if persecution is okay, but by god don’t you dare take a word out of a consumer holiday!

    2. Starina

      good christ, clampers. cadbury’s is not certified halal but it’s halal standard. stop reading fake news

  3. bisted

    …CofE must be fairly desperate when they are attacking the Quakers…mind you, National Trust probably attract more visitors on a sunday than all the christian flavours put together…

    1. Clampers Outside

      Surely, the Quaker side of Cadbury died when the company was sold. It’s not Quaker any more… not sure how this is an attack on the Quakers when it is ‘new’ nothing-to-do-with-Quakers Cadbury and the NT under fire.
      Jus’ wonderin’..

      1. bisted

        …so the running dogs of capitalism have taken over Cadburys…that accounts for the diminishing size of the cream eggs and the tins of roses…CofE are right…nothing’s sacred…

  4. Grouse

    I saw the Cadbury’s easter egg hunt going on in Merrion Square last year. Purple plastic everywhere. It really is pretty gross that Cadbury’s are so heavily commercialising—essentially trying to take ownership of—a children’s tradition. Not really bothered by the removal of Christian religion from it. Of course the eggs date from pre-Christian celebrations of the arrival of spring. Eggs have been around a lot longer than Christ and have always been a symbol of rebirth.

    1. Cian

      Naughty Cadburys, commercialising a religious celebration.

      I’m so glad that *all* the other religious celebrations are completely *free* from commercialisation!

      1. Clampers Outside

        ” Crucifixes, get your crucifixes here! Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental, Anglican and Lutheran… we have the one for you!

        Get you your Easter fix, fit yourself up with a Cadbury crucifix! “

  5. Gorev Mahagut

    Mr Cadbury was a Quaker. Quakers don’t believe in a priesthood; they deride the authority of bishops, and say that no church is holier than any meadow or street. They don’t celebrate Easter or Christmas, or even consider Sunday a holy day, because the Lord is present at all times and in all places. And they take all ritual and ceremony lightly, believing instead that each one should listen to that of God within himself or herself and act according.

    Is this really the tradition which the Archbishop of York Dr John Sentamu (as he calls himself) wants us to follow? Or is he too spitting on Mr Cadbury’s grave?

    1. Kieran Nice Young Chap

      Quakers sound quite sensible. Very progressive on the aul anti-slavery and peace.

  6. Eoin

    Yeah, they wanna get some blasphemy laws over there like what we have here….AND pronto! To protect Isla…I mean the Church of England, yeah, to protect the church OF ENGLAND.

    1. Clampers Outside

      Good spot, that fella missed the fact the complaint is about the logo, not all the materials associated with the Easter egg hunt, but the logo and the event name…. ” Cadbury’s website makes reference to Easter in relation to the hunt in several places, but the word does not feature on the logo for the event. ”

      The Cadbury Easter website page – https://easter.cadbury.co.uk/

      Where you download the PDF with the ‘egg hunt’ logo on the first page with no mention of Easter until page 3 – https://073537e261a947500454-c34390fd82936db47e9755582c6e07c7.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/PDF/5076530_Cadbury_EASTER_EGG_HUNT_AT_HOME_KITS_A4_HI_RES.pdf – which, I believe, as reported, is what the complaint is about, and not that which is mocked in yer man’s tweet, in fairness.

      Further to that from another report on the story… ” The National Trust denied it was downplaying Easter and claimed Cadbury was responsible for the rebranding of the egg hunt. ” – http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/03/easter-egg-row-church-england-accuses-national-trust-airbrushing/

      Hmmmm indeed Nigel, that guy missed the point of the complaint. Good spot!

      1. Nigel

        That was a lot of effort just to miss that the guy’s point is that they used a picture to illustrate a story about the airbrushing out of ‘Easter’ that airbrushes out all the usages of ‘Easter’ from the original. The point of the complaint is that the complaint is really, really, fecking stupid. Don’t enable any more stupidity than you absolutely have to. Atrocious spotting.

        1. Clampers Outside

          Poor, poor claw back Nigel. … ” the guy’s point is that they used a picture to illustrate a story about the airbrushing out of ‘Easter’ ” …..and he got it wrong as shown in the two links.

          He uses two images, one from the story he is mocking – image on the right – which actually proves the point, in that, ‘Easter’ is removed… original here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/03/easter-egg-row-church-england-accuses-national-trust-airbrushing/

          ….and the other image lifted from who knows where…. but not from the story he purports to mock.

          When you do know where he got the second image, the one on the left, come back to me. But it’s not linked to the story he claims it is linked to, just look at the link to the story yourself (link above is the Telegraph one he is mocking).

          #FakeNews Nigel ? :)

          1. Nigel

            So, let me get this straight. You look at the image on the right, and the image on the left, and it is a complete mystery how they relate to each other?

          2. Clampers Outside

            No Nigel. Yer man mocks the paper in the tweet and uses two pics; 1. an image not used by the paper, and the 2nd an image that proves the clergies complaint.
            That’s all.

          3. Nigel

            I think it’s pretty obvious where the paper got the picture they used and how many usages of ‘Easter’ they ignored when they cropped it and used it.

          4. Clampers Outside

            No Nigel. Yer man mocks the paper in the tweet and uses two pics; 1. an image not used by the paper, and the 2nd an image that proves the clergies complaint.
            That’s all.

          5. Nigel

            Just in case anyone didn’t click my link, the first image is from the Cadbury’s website advertising the hunt and uses ‘Easter’ twice. The second image is clearly taken from the first image and used in the paper to illustrate the story about ‘Easter’ being airbrushed from the egg hunt, and does not include any of the usages of Easter from the original. Clampers can’t see this, and thinks shopped and cropped version in the paper proves the complaint right, because there’s no Easter in it, but the complete picture, which does use Easter, has no bearing on the story. I’ll let you decide for yourselves if you weren’t already convinced that this is stupid and inane and pure silly season, but it’s also culture-war lying in the style of the US lies about the War On Christmas. There will probably be more of this sort of thing to come.

          6. Clampers Outside

            ” The second image is clearly taken from the first image and used in the paper ”

            They are two different images Nigel.

            The common element between them is the bunny behind the egg – one with just ‘Cadbury’ on egg, the other ‘Join the Cadbury Egg Hunt’ on the egg.
            And, no mention of Easter on either of the common elements.

            Do you still think that one is just an airbrushed version of the other…. would you like to borrow my glasses?

          7. Nigel

            The bunny and the egg came from the original, larger, picture which uses the word ‘Easter’ twice. Again I say – the original advertising for the hunt makes multiple use of the word ‘Easter’ but the picture in the paper ‘proves’ that the the word Easter was not used. I can’t tell whose intelligence you’re insulting more, your own or everyone else’s. Has it occurred to you at all that it’s the provenance of the picture in the paper you need to be questioning, rather than dismissing out of hand the actual picture used to advertise the actual hunt?

    2. Starina

      why are Christians so keen to have their religion sold back to them?! I don’t get it! Starbucks etc

      1. Clampers Outside

        I may not be religious, but I can still recognise and acknowledge that it is Judeo-Christian values that built western civilisation… faults in all, the best value system the world has ever seen.

        To remove that history and tradition with nothing to replace it the way regressives push is nonsensical… oh wait, they, the left, do support something to replace it…. Linda Sarsour and her ilks push for Sharia Law …Yay! get rid of Christianity bring in Islam… G’wan the left !

        That last bit is called ‘sarcasm’… just in case it is lost on anyone.

        You yourself Star, like the vast majority of us on this island, have values that are Judeo Christian based.
        (although, you did say you are an immigrant of many years past, so I am not sure if you came from a Judeo Christian country. I am making an assumption there. If incorrect, I do apologise.)

        1. Starina

          that still doesn’t solve why Christians want companies to make a profit off their religion, though. It baffles me that so many would think crass capitalism is a devout expression of their religious convictions.

          I’m not even going to address “Judeo-Christian values that built western civilisation… faults in all, the best value system the world has ever seen.” I don’t have the time today.

          1. Clampers Outside

            ” that still doesn’t solve why Christians want companies to make a profit off their religion, though. ”
            That statement assumes knowledge of a motivation that the clergy ‘want’ a company to make profits off their religion… in fairness, how could you know that?

            ” It baffles me that so many would think crass capitalism is a devout expression of their religious convictions. ” …where did you get that?
            It may be happening, that crass capitalism uses religious holidays, but you cannot assume to know that a devout person encourages it in the manner you have suggested, in that it is in any way a ‘devout expression’ of any sort. That’s ridiculous to make such a claim.
            I’d also suggest that one (or a company) can show respect for a religious holiday without expressing any devotion.

            – – – – – – – – –

            ” I’m not even going to address “Judeo-Christian values that built western civilisation… faults in all, the best value system the world has ever seen.” I don’t have the time today. ” ….I look forward to you coming back on this. You seem to know of a better one… can’t wait!

            – – – – – – – – – –

            By the way, you asked me a question a couple of weeks back and I never got back to you. It was regarding the state of sociology.
            There are 400 professors in the states who have come together to form the ‘Heterodox Academy’ which is fighting the regressive one sided ideological bent that sociology has gone down. #NotAllSociologists are ideological leftists, some actually love to have their viewpoints challenged – more here http://heterodoxacademy.org/

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          2. Starina

            are only the clergy Christian? i’m referring to the Christian layperson in general, the type who gets upset when Starbuck’s December cups don’t have snowflakes cos it’s “a war against Christmas” and what have you.

        2. Gorev Mahagut

          Western “civilisation” is the child of Roman imperialism. The kind of technocrats who tortured a Galilean carpenter to death because they weren’t having any of his left-wing “your sins are forgiven, sell what you have and give to the poor” radicalism. He probably didn’t pay the water charges either.

          1. Clampers Outside

            Keep at it.
            You’ve got a few years of the Judeo bit down….. you still have the 2,000 more years of the Judeo influence and the birth of Christianity and it’s 2,000 years development to get through to get to the point I made.

        3. MoyestWithExcitement

          “I may not be religious, but I can still recognise and acknowledge that it is Judeo-Christian values that built western civilisation… faults in all, the best value system the world has ever seen.”

          This is white supremacy. Whites are responsible for everything good. If there was any doubt, he then says the following; “You yourself Star, like the vast majority of us on this island, have values that are Judeo Christian based.
          (although, you did say you are an immigrant of many years past, so I am not sure if you came from a Judeo Christian country.” He questions whether this person came from a civilised country or learned how to be civilised when she got here.

          1. Clampers Outside

            ” This is white supremacy. ”

            How so?

            Because they were successful?

            How is stating the fact that a Judeo-Christian value system is the best one the world has produced, and which is verifiable as the one in operation through out the western world today, is some how “white supremacy”?

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            ” He questions whether this person came from a civilised country or learned how to be civilised when she got here. ”
            This is brilliant example of projecting meaning onto something never said. thank you for this example.

            No, I asked Star if she was raised in a Judeo-Christian vale system which is, as I have said, the best one the world has seen.
            You on the other hand, made the leap into believing that if someone does not come from a Judeo-Christian culture, then they must not be civilised, or have to be civilised if they come here. You did that.

            You… just you…. made that leap Moyest. I never said such. I said the Judeo-Christian was the best value system. I did not say those that are not the best are not civilised. I said they are not the best. …nothing more.

            You did the rest, not me, thanks :)

          2. mildred st. meadowlark

            You two should come down to our Aero debate down below. Much less angsty.

          3. Starina

            hmm. well. he has a point about it being white supremacy but i see why you would not agree, Clamps. i don’t think you meant it that way at all BUT it’s reflective of a eurocentric, christian-centric worldview, which is, at its heart, white-centric. knowumsayin?

  7. Starina

    and what exactly does the church think chocolate and rabbits has to do with Christianity? Eostre of the Dawn long predated Christianity, who squatted on an existing holiday in a particularly aggressive show of syncretism

      1. Starina

        true dat – eostre is a sort of neopagan mashup for witchy europeans. but the spring celebrations were certainly there

    1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      I’ve heard Jesus was fond of a Fry’s Chocolate Cream. Oh, hang on. Not Jesus, me.

      1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

        I nibble all the chocolate off then roll the fondant into a ball then eat that. It’s the classy way to eat it.

        1. Kieran Nice Young Chap

          Then what’s the point of combining them and buying it in the first place? Buying some bulk chocolate and a bucket of fondant would be cheaper.

          Madness, I tell thee! :)

          (But then I enjoy Mint Aeros, so what do I know…)

          1. mildred st. meadowlark

            I adore you Kieran, but your strange love of those minty bars of gick makes me question all I hold dear.

          2. mildred st. meadowlark

            On the other hand:

            “bucket of fondant”

            Proper lols, so maybe I can forgive you :D

          3. Boj

            Leave the Mint Aero alone right now…back away Mildred.
            I also find the Moro a joy to unfurl and let the biscuity-whatever-stuff bit melt in de mout
            When will they introduce an Orange Choc Aero though! Do not tell me they exist already…

          4. Spaghetti Hoop

            That’s all very well Kieran but a little birdie told me you DON’T DRINK TAY. What say?

          5. Clampers Outside

            I produced a Fry’s chocolate mint bar on the tarin to Westport on the way to a stag. I was the oldest of the group… and was called an aul fella all the way from Westport to Dublin for…. “he’s eatin’ grandad’s chocolate HAHAHAHA!”

            I enjoyed my bar all the same…. I deflected their mocking efforts with my Werther’s original hard-shell-licking-shiled !
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            I made the last bit up… :/

          6. Starina

            fry’s is amazing, i was introduce to them in college. my fave is bourneville, cos i’m a hardcore chocolate addict

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