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  1. Otis Blue

    Conservatives will likely require the support from the DUP to retain power.

    What a bloody shambles.

    Disunited Kingdom

  2. Nigel

    Pity about the moderates in NI. Can’t help but feel that a party that literally burned money and not as an artistic statement like the KLF isn’t the most sensible choice.

  3. H

    The boy done good, I’m so pleased, especially as I now have not just a Labour MP but the one with the best name ever – Bambos Charalambos!
    I only wish I was in the office today so I could rub my allegedly Labour anti-Corbyn boss’s nose in it… not petty or smug at all…

          1. Djin Genie

            His parents are Cypriot, so it’s a Greek name – though funnily it also sounds like the moniker of a masked Mexican lucha wrestler. :)

    1. Formerly Known As @ireland.com

      Tories and Labour.

      If you finger hold the chart, it will all ow you zoom in. Play with it, if it doesn’t work, first time.

      The Scottish Tory leader is popular, apparently.

        1. Bertie "the inexplicable pleasure" Blenkinsop

          ‘Charger Salmons! Lord Nelson! Lord Beaverbrook! Sir Winston Churchill! Sir Anthony Eden! Clement Attlee! Henry Cooper! Lady Diana! Maggie Thatcher – can you hear me, Maggie Thatcher! Your boys took one hell of a beating! Your boys took one hell of a beating!’

          1. Charger Salmons

            Beating ? They’re still in power you silly sausage.
            But very good anyway !

          2. Listrade

            “Beating ? They’re still in power you silly sausage.
            But very good anyway !”

            Technically right (the best kind of right), but not really how a Hung Parliament works.

          3. Nigel

            But so much less power than they had. They literally threw it away. They burned it the way the DUP burned money. They gave a reeling Labour an incredible boost. They turned an actual victory into a pyrrhic one, all on their own. They self-owned. They haven’t quite self immolated but they’ve doused themselves in fuel and are asking if anyone has a match. Brexit negotiations are off. UKIP gone. I’m not even crowing, I’m amazed.

  4. Charger Salmons

    Alive and kicking,old cock.
    And better off this morning having punted heavily on Brighton Kemptown to go Labour.
    Admittedly I thought it was going to be the only one but I’ll take it anyway.
    On the plus side Tories still in power and IndyRef2 kicked into touch and over the stand with the SNP taking a hammering.
    The reality is Labour have just lost their third general election on the trot and face five more years in opposition.

      1. bisted

        …taking such a bullish position on the tories but then profiting from a labour win in Brighton shows a neck that Thatcher would have been proud of…do you have any opinions on the horse racing from Brighton today?

      2. Listrade

        Another way would be that you said that would be the only Tory seat to go to labour and May would win with an 80 seat majority.

        https://www.broadsheet.ie/2017/06/01/cometh-the-man/#comment-1823455

        The reality is May had a significant majority already and got cocky. It wasn’t just a gamble for her credibility, it was a stupid thing to do with Brexit.

        She triggered Article 50, then calls an unnecessary election. You exit Europe 2 years after triggering Article 50. Why would anyone with the majority she had and the mandate she had waste 2 months of negotiation farting around with an election? Now you can add further delay running around trying to form a government. Then even more delay trying to establish a negotiating position. She’s likely lost 6 months out of the 2 years to get a deal to minimise the impact of Brexit.

        She may resign, Corbyn may scrape together a government (unlikely), but whoever goes into those negotiations is knackered. The UK will be on the back foot.

        The UK is probably going to have to go grovelling to try and get an extension to the deal, again, hardly making for a strong negotiating position.

        Even if May can form a government, there is no spin on this planet that can polish this turd.

        1. Charger Salmons

          A terrible election by May no doubt.
          But a second one in the Autumn with Boris in charge is quite possible.
          Nothing changes with Brexit – the Tories and DUP will still command a majority.
          Talk of polishing a turd – Labour claiming victory despite being 56 seats behind the Tories takes some beating.

          1. Nigel

            ‘with Boris in charge’

            A deep shudder just ran through the continental plates and along the space-time continuum to the freezing outer darkness and a vast hungry beast stirred in its slumber.

          2. mildred st. meadowlark

            Why isn’t this a comic? Or at the very least, an elaborate comedic musical.

          3. Listrade

            Everything changes with Brexit, especially with the DUP on board. The DUP want a very soft Brexit, nothing like the Tory view. Everything changes with Brexit because May wanted a ‘mandate’ from the people to do it her way. She didn’t get it. That mandate was supposed to strengthen her position with the negotiations, she has lost.

            There’s a reason the Tories try and keep Boris locked away when it comes to elections. Good luck to them if he’s their leader.

            And let’s make no bones about this. May wanted this election so that she could bury the opposition. She wanted to be the PM that killed Labour. They grew in seats and stopped her winning an election. It may be like going out on away goals, but it is still a humiliating defeat for her and the Tories.

            Anything other than a landslide for the Tories was always going to be a win for Labour. To take it to a hung parliament is nothing short of incredible considering where the party was.

            Also shows that the Brexit vote wasnt just “shy Tory” Mail readers or sudden UKIP supporters. Plenty on the left had their own reasons for Brexit.

            The DUP coalition will be a debacle. Really can’t see getting much into 2018 without a collapse. Not just their views on religion, but also their utter incompetence as politicians. There’s plenty of skeletons in their closets regarding corruption. They’ve got away with it due to an incompetent press and it being a region Britain doesn’t really care about unless it involves death. Now there’ll be much more focus on all those dodgy deals and much greater scrutiny.

            Anyway, I’ve been off the smokes for 3 years, but just having one now and it’s the sweetest thing in the world.

        2. scottser

          you are correct in that you can not polish a turd.
          however, you can roll it in glitter..

          1. mildred st. meadowlark

            The fact that you know this is… unnerving.

            How exactly do you know that?

          2. mildred st. meadowlark

            Well, fancy that. Learn something new every day.

            Well folks, who wants to have a glitter party?

    1. Formerly Known As @ireland.com

      The people have rejected strong and stable May.

      The Unwanted Kingdom’s voting system saves the Tories, again.

    1. edalicious

      PR-STV, I would imagine. The UK greens got 1.7% of the vote but only 0.15% of the seats.

      1. Frilly Keane

        nope, not buying it
        there’s still way more constituencies / seats and regional demos where there is opportunity to exasperate that average overall %

        yet they only manage one

        The Green Party doesn’t even exist
        lets be honest

        1. Djin Genie

          Their campaign policy of progressive alliance was interesting: deliberately withdrawing in some 30 constituencies and endorsing Labour candidates. They wouldn’t have won those seats anyway, but still.

          It does seem odd that they’re a fairly stalwart fixture of the UK political landscape, having been knocking around since the ’70s, yet held zero GE seats until Brighton 2010. Perhaps people view them as more of a social movement than a political party. That and getting shafted by FPTP!

  5. MoyestWithExcitement

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Aaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha. Haaaaaaaaaa. Ha.

    1. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

      Whatever. He still lost by a considerable number of seats and can’t form a government. Only factionalist lefty blowhards consider a resounding defeat to be a victory.

      1. MoyestWithExcitement

        He got 40% of the vote. Labour haven’t gotten that much since the 70s. He increased Labour vote by the biggest margin of any party since the 40s. Theresa May lost EVERY marginal constituency she visited. Pretty much all those marginal constituencies had anti Corbyn Labour ministers so Corbyn saved their jobs. This has been quite a funny morning.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          Oh, and after painting Corbyn as a terrorist sympathiser, May is going to form a government with a party who were backed by 3 terrorist groups in the UDA, UVF and RHC. A party with deep historical links to terrorists. I still remember that country singer they had sharing a stage with Billy Wright.

          1. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

            Exactly. That’s the real world. Deal with it.

        2. Charger Salmons

          Labour lost this election as badly as Gordon Brown did in 2010.
          Dems de facts baby.

          1. Nigel

            Yeah. After devouring the Tory majority. A few more losses like that and Corbyn’s PM.

      2. Charger Salmons

        Correct.
        Corbyn has managed to drag Labour back to the level that Gordon Brown was at when he lost – why anyone thinks this constitutes a great victory is beyond me.
        The Labour Party are still no nearer to forming a government than they were yesterday.
        And deliberately absent from all the TV screens today are the experienced and very electable Labour MPs who loath everything Corbyn stands for.
        It’s okay getting the youth vote by promising them something you can never deliver like free tuition fees but becoming Prime Minister without the support of a majroity of your parliamentary party is another thing.
        However the Scottish result is a game-changer.
        The Tories are badly wounded by this election but it’s not terminal and they are remarkably ruthless when it comes to the party’s future – it’s why they’ve been in power for most of the last century.

        1. Nigel

          Yeah calling the election was supposed to be a ruthless strike at securing the party’s future. Instead they dragged the Labour Party back up out of catastrophic decline and now they’re getting cosy with the DUP oh boy and I expect their contempt for young people will continue. I don’t think young people realised how much the Tories hated them until this election.

          1. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

            Nonsense. It was just to get back the UKIP voters

          2. Listrade

            It was no secret she called it to specifically crush Labour, Lib Dems and SNP. This has been stated numerous times to journalists since April.

            https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/18/theresa-may-calls-for-general-election-in-bid-to-secure-brexit-mandate

            “Supporters of the prime minister said she would use the election to crush dissent over Brexit, with one projection by the election expert Michael Thrasher suggesting she could secure a majority of 140 on the basis of current polls. His estimate suggests the number of Tory MPs could rise from 331 to 395, with Labour potentially slumping from 229 to 164.”

  6. Joxer

    will the shinners take their seats and row in behind Corbyn? Seems like a good time to drop abstentionism

  7. Mary Jane

    I always thought it would be funny to run a few an Official Monster Raving Loony Candidates in an Irish election (as opposed to Provisional Monster Raving Loonies)

    Reckon one could get elected in Dublin Bay South or Dun Laoghaire

    1. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

      We had Sean Dublin Bay Loftus and Vincent Ballyfermot Jackson already

  8. Junkface

    Broken Britain
    It looks like it will take a good long while to sort out. Imagine Boris in charge of the Tories if May resigns, good God!

  9. Rob_G

    Good result for the Lib Dems – would have liked to have seen them and Labour in coalition.

  10. Nigel

    I’m delighted Diane Abbott did so spectacularly well. She bungled some interviews badly, but the sneering and disdain she drew from the Tories and the press when their own leader could only speak in self-parody and didn’t bother to come out for a debate was nauseating.

    1. Rob_G

      Ugh – whatever about her making an error with some figures, she is an unpleasant person. A race-baiting, IRA-defending tool.

    1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      The DUP tried to sue the Ulster Museum for having an exhibition on evolution and not creationism.

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