From left: Michael Banks, Paul Murphy TD, Kieran Mahon, Michael Murphy, Scott Masterson and Frank Donaghy (far right)
This morning.
The six men accused of falsely imprisoning former tánaiste Joan Burton during a water charges protest arrive at the Central Criminal Courts of Justice as the jury begins its deliberations.
The men – Paul Murphy, Kieran Mahon, Michael Murphy, Frank Donaghy, Michael Banks and Scott Masterson – all deny the charges.
Meanwhile…
From courtroom 13…
At the #Jobstown trial, Judge Melanie Greally has stated that video evidence has contradicted statements by Gardai
— Gemma O’Doherty (@gemmaod1) June 26, 2017
Hurrah for those ‘expensive phones’! #JobstownNotGuilty https://t.co/Tnk1qRZ9br
— Marie Tess (@TesstessToron) June 26, 2017
More as we get it.
Previously: To Heli And Back
UPDATE:
147 people in Court 13 Central Criminal Court at Jobstown trial. Jampacked. #JobstownNotGuilty
— Mick Barry TD (@MickBarryTD) June 26, 2017
After more than 2 months of evidence jury retiring now in Jobstown trial #JobstownNotGuilty
— Mick Barry TD (@MickBarryTD) June 26, 2017
Jury deliberations have been suspended at #Jobstown trial until tomorrow afternoon
— Gemma O’Doherty (@gemmaod1) June 26, 2017
Hang on – no verdict yet. Hope it goes against the 4%.
Don’t hang on, hang them high.
blushirts won’t tolerate dissent, it seems…
You say that every time Dav…. you’re wrong every time.
Whatever happens – and I hope the Jury do the right thing – might I commend the excellent charge to the Jury rendered by Judge Greally. Balance and fairness, alongside due deference to the law, were much in evidence. Well done, Judge.
well worth a read y’all..
http://www.thejournal.ie/jobstown-trial-monday-3463836-Jun2017/
Not one of us has heard a fraction of what the jury has heard over the course of the trial, nor will any of us give more than a fraction of the consideration they have.
For that reason I am comfortable that the jury will make the right decision, whatever that decision may be.
So what do you think when juries get it wrong?
have you any examples of when they get it wrong?
can’t think of any off hand. quite often of course it’s the prosecution who get it wrong and the jury cannot convict
The person convicted can appeal.
Whats the difference between video evidence contradicting statements and perjury?
One is proven to be done knowingly.
Id imagine its hard to prove Perjury, the defense could always be “Thats how I remember it”
Gardai & a politician would never commit perjury, would they? Couldn’t possibly happen.
by mature recollection…….
Hardcore, Topsy…
…Consider this as a salute.
You can drive my car.
(I’m drunk.)
“An appalling vista”……….
About the same as the difference between protest and false imprisonment.
Meanwhile:
Mr Humphries are you free?
No.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/tom-humphries-to-be-sentenced-for-sexual-exploitation-defilement-of-child-1.3133911?mode=amp
How this trial has made it to the deliberation stage is beyond me. It should have been thrown out as the ridiculous, politically motivated fantasy that it is. If anyone goes to jail they’ll be martyrs and if they get off it’s a massive embarrassment. And now you have Gardai caught up in the mix with evidence contradicting statements. What a mess.
It’s call fascism. Using the police for political purposes.
if they are found guilty there will be more peaceful protests!
*Everyone* should be on those protests if they happen.
Your Sheik will march until the battle is won.
Protesting against the jury?
Sizhaqiqat danhamah moqsan!
Who needs due process when the mob has already decided who is innocent and who is guilty?
Not you. You already decided these “thugs” are guilty before the trial even begun. Shame on you.
Stiff sentences followed by stiff drinks in the barristers’ tea rooms, hopefully.
Only joking. No to water charges!
LOL!
No mention of those comments from the judge in RTE’s piece on the trial https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0626/885602-jobstown/
Or in the Irish Times
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/jobstown-trial-judge-says-only-the-right-to-peaceful-protest-is-protected-1.3133865
‘Video footage contradicted Garda statements’
Of course. But they were poor so they were out of control animals abusing an elderly lady and the DPP are independent so this couldn’t be a political show trial.
Was Joan retrieved from the car successfully? Did she agree to come out at last?
The resemblance to the Stalinist show trials of the 1930s is uncanny.
The fact that you are aware that the trial is taking place and are able to freely comment on the details of the ongoing trial demonstrates that it bears very little resemblance to the show trials of Stalin.
Yeah cuz Stalin shut down the internet and banned mobile phones.
It’s called irony.
Eh, Admin…
I set my own boundaries.
You’re the one stepping over the line.
I never do.
Push me once more and I might.
Trust me.
When I was younger, people used to tell me what to do.
They’re all dead now.
– It’s just a coincidence.. Don’t dwell on it.
– it was a joke, FFS…
Sleep well.
I have nothing to say.
I only posted this to change my name and send a love letter to anyone who’s brave enough to click my name.
I’m very drunk. Not at the top of me game, so to speak.
This is all I have.
Deal with it.
All me best stuff gets deleted.
It only makes me worse.It doesn’t annoy me in the slightest.
I forgot to change my name and add a link to it.
Too late now, I suppose.
Ah well…
If I never come back here I’ll remember Broadsheet for ONE thing…
CENSORSHIP.
…even when it was unwarranted.
You know that’s not right, Mr. or Ms Wankydiwankywankballsiloveyourlittlesister.com
So do I.
I promise… I will NOT leave ‘quietly’.
I’ll admit that I mask my idiocy with my vocabulary, and mix my metaphors line a guest on a Breakfast program on British TV making an omelette.
. (Not TV3. U have standards.
…hold on…
…isn’t this where we started?
Let’s stop fighting, losers.
STFU and try to remember what you felt the first time you heard this nonsense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrojrDCI02k
Yeah.You knew everything then too.
You know everything today too.
None of you know nothing.*
*I wish that was just an American euphemism, but it’s actually factual.
And depressing.
Hang on a minute… let me speak:.
NO.
Let Roger Waters speak…
Home. Home again.
I like to be here when I can.
When I come home cold and tired
It’s good to warm my bones beside the fire..
…blah-di-blah, something, somthing something…
… abdthen he sings..
;Call the Faithful to their knees’
I used to like that band, until I listened to them.
PS.
Wish You Were Here is my second favourite album ever…
…and I’m old.
– I know me stuff.
Close your eyes, bite your lip and listen…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLIy2t-KAc0&list=PLfimnwaZdumgdg-BPofqK8h6cdkxIxe2H
One of your most sensible comments evah!
My enduring worry here is that the precedent has already been set in the Children’s Court. If the youth there was found guilty of false imprisonment but let off with a slap on the wrist. The whole point of his trial was to set the precedent. Either they have to go back and declare a miscarriage of justice in his case or there will be a guilty verdict in the Jobstown case. I fully expect the latter as you don’t invent this much time, effort, and money in the political show trial of the century only to come out with the result you started out to get.
Regarding garda perjury, I’m not exactly hoping for a miracle.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/jobstown-trial-schoolboy-discharged-after-false-imprisonment-verdict-1.2838080
+!