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    1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      I bet you a gazillion snots that they won’t be.
      Unless you mean April 1 and you’re only codding us.
      Are you? Coz if you are, that’s GAS.

    2. eric cartman

      nah, the local urchins just piss on them and spill crap on the seats , thats what happens on Talbot street anyway.

  1. Bort

    Rathmines and Ranelagh could do with a few, actually might as well have them as far as Dundrum now that Luas cross city has made any stop between town and Dundrum redundant.

  2. Christopher

    Again no expansion for Cork St/ Clanbrassil/ Newmarket?? Massive population, more and more attractions (Teelings, Weaver Square etc..), a shit ton of new student accommodations but still the closest bikes are Guiness Storehouse, Francis st (at the top by Tivoli!) and then Portobello. Instead they expand to where the Luas now goes- great.

  3. Kevin Quinn

    The Corpo knows there is huge demand for the scheme to be extended, but they are absolutely terrified that if they do so they will have to up their investment in the support for the scheme, especially in unblocking full stations and bringing new bikes to empty ones. Imagine if they did this properly, like in Paris, and people could rely on the stations having both bikes and spaces. People would use the bikes to commute, they would use them even when under pressure for time, secure in the knowledge that the Corpo was monitoring the stations in real time, and making sure they weren’t full or empty. Ten times as many people would use them — what a nightmare!

    It’s another example of the democratic deficit at local level — the City Manager runs the city and he is unelected and for the most part not answerable to anyone who has been elected by the people of Dublin. hence the shoddy bike scheme, the secretive campaign to push cars out of the city centre (thereby hollowing it out by 2030), the giant incinerator by the sea where there should be people…We need a directly elected mayor with real power.

    1. dav

      I thought the scheme was one of these private partnerships the blushirts love. DCC have sold off all their advertising space so the private company would run the bike scheme, no?

      1. Cian

        …except for the fact that Dublin City council was a Labour Party/Fianna Fáil/Sinn Féin majority from 2004 to 2009 when the Dublin Bike Scheme was mooted, tendered, and signed off.
        But yeah, blame the blushirts as usual.

        1. dav

          never suggested they set it up just that they like the scheme. Just like the public /private partnership building of schools that won’t open due to failed property developers not paying their workers…

    2. Cian

      They do have a number of vans that move bicycles between stops. I don’t know if there is capacity on the roads to move more bikes (having a van with 20 bikes on it stuck in traffic is no good for anyone)

      I did hear of a scheme (can’t remember which country) where they incentivise people to use the bikes in the opposite direction. So in the mornings there is a bigger movement of people from, say, a Luas station in the city centre than towards it. So they effectively pay people, say 10c, each time they move a bike into that station at peak times. Makes sense to me.

      1. Rob_G

        I don’t think the vans would add substantially congestion; at a max, there would be maybe 3 or 4 going around the city centre. Whereas if all the stands reliably had bikes, and people used them instead of taking taxis or Ubers, that would have a significant effect on easing congestion.

        1. Cian

          I didn’t mean that the trucks would cause congestion – more that they would be caught in it.

          There seem to be currently 6 trucks that do this already (I can’t find a definitive answer – my GoogleFu skills are on the wain). But as one of the Dublin Bike folk says – you can’t keep all stations filled at all times. E.g. Even if you have 200 bikes at Heuston Station when a train comes in, then these will all disappear.

          According to the Indo: “Some 50 staff are employed on the Coca-Cola Zero Dublin Bikes scheme, and a fleet of 20 vehicles is on the road to carry out necessary regulation and maintenance” – this 20 includes the guys that fix the bikes.

          1. Kevin Quinn

            If they want to know how it is done, they need only go to Paris. They have mainline trains stations in Paris, too, and the bike stations outside them are not permanently empty…because the Mairie de Paris (or JC Decaux which I think operates the scheme there also) has a lot more flat-bed trucks going around freeing up the full stations and replenishing the empty ones. This is a choice by Dublin City Council.

          2. Cian

            I’m no expert on Paris, but the Wiki[1] page suggests otherwise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9lib%27#Demand
            “…depending on the time of day, Vélib needs to manage the demand at its outermost and centremost stations. Consequently, bicycles may be completely unavailable in some locations, whilst parking problems exist for others.”

            [1] yeah, I know it’s Wikipedia – but it’s better than no stats.

          3. Rob_G

            @ Cian – ok I see you what you mean.

            In the city I live in, the bike scheme does have incentives to bring the bikes back in the less popular direction (the city centre is at the bottom of a big hill), but the incentives offered aren’t really enough to induce people to cycle a 25kg bike back up the hill, so I don’t think it has made much difference.

  4. Joe835

    Really hoped they might have stretched a few out towards Glasnevin and Finglas, rather than just packing more in around where they already are

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