Good old convene
No side talks with the UK over brexit which out of all EU states will suffer the greatest
Our future has been taken out of our hands
Rather scary stuff
The whole good Friday agreement is sadly doomed as the EU move to crush the UK which they will not but sadly for us we will be ruined
Grow a pair of balls varadka for this is way beyond you and your teams
Micky martin you must pull the plug before its too late
Ami B and BS
Careful now David. That doesn’t sound like the prevailing blog consensus !
david
I know for many have short memories
Nigel
Thst doesn’t sound like anything coherent.
david
Pre good Friday in the north and the crash here and the debt we were forced to pay as our gutless governments post crash allowed others to pillage us
And these are the same friends we sit back and allow our future to be formed
And coveney telling the Brits what is what penned by the reich
Have we received any concrete proposal that our nation will be compensated from the EU over severe economic consequences from brexit ? No
The rest will negotiate for us no matter what consequences we receive as a result of the EU FU to the UK
Wake up man we mean nothing to the EU
Nigel
We mean nothing to the UK, you mean. Less than nothing, we’re one more screw-up in their disastrously ill-thought and ill-planned exercise in nationalistic self-mutilation, but they’ve bought off the DUP so it’s all the usual noises and hand-waving and confusion from the Tories while Ireland tries to remind everyone how important the GFA is and the EU acts like grown-ups. I mean, your babbling comments here are so stupid they can only be spin: Varadkar can only insist on no border, he absolutely has to. But the UK can’t exit the EU without imposing a border. The EU know this, but the UK is projecting wild fantasies to cover up their abject betrayal of Good Friday. The UK started shaping this future when it voted for Brexit without regard for the consequences.
some old queen
Oh FFS. You clowns love to snipe and criticise but never actually contribute anything yourselves now do you?
The only way the GFA is doomed is if the British renege on commitments given within an international treaty. Side talks or under the table deals are not going to happen because the Irish have no authority to single handily negotiate where Europe starts or stops.
Unless they come up with some sort of fudge on the definition of a customs union, the line will be drawn between UK and ROI OR between Britain and Ireland. It really is that simple. May’s speech yesterday just kicked the can down the road. A very short road, about 12 months in time travel.
anyone
“The only way the GFA is doomed is if the British renege on commitments given within an international treaty”
It’s looking increasingly likely that may happen though soq, clearly the UK is not going to devolve any sovereignty given the current parliamentary maths – if there is a Labour government then, who knows?
I think the battle lines are getting drawn in on this, and May is fighting a tough hand but seems to have rallied all her crowd behind her again. In the end I think NI will have a special status both in and out of the UK and the EU. Have always thought that was the answer here.
david
And this is why the feinners must take their seats and convene makes it his business to have bi lateral talks with the EU and UK
The strategy of sitting there and leaving the EU who we have 5%say if that will act in the interest of what matters to them and we are so insignificant we do not count
The game being played is so beyond the capability of a government who cannot even deliver housing broadband or health
anyone
Well there’s no doubt about that, but in the circumstances I think they’re doing fine with a difficult hand. In the long run it makes more sense to align ourselves to the EU bloc but I feel that Coveney and Varadkar could do better on the diplomacy front too
some old queen
Step back to before Brexit. The main trust, at least as far as a lot of voters were concerned, was immigration. Now it is all about trade and not a mention of immigration. Why is that?
Any restriction to the free movement of people on the island of Ireland will be resisted in ways never seen before, particularly by those who were never involved in the conflict. Call it what you will but passports will be mandatory when travelling between the island of Ireland and Britain. There is no other way of doing it.
david
As for care homes
Is there still not regulations in place to ensure these clauses are not clear and fair
Maybe its time to make this a criminal act to dupe people who are not in full faculty to consent to a change of their care
Time for the garda to investigate and bring charges for deception
GiggidyGoo
U K
david
Anyone true in theory that’s what we all want but reality is the EU will in its war against the UK because if the UK thrive then many powerhouses will consider leaving the EU which is the problem
As we have seen it develops with two tiers
Look at the troika what they did to us and how we capitulated
This monster the EU has become is unbending hence the UK getting out
The EU will punish the UK and that will in turn punish us and the troika was evidence with language like if you do not pay bond holders a bomb will go off in Dublin
We will suffer because we are caught in the crossfire
This is I believe beyond varadka and coveney
They are not being seen to do anything but sit back and leave others who do not live in our country to negotiate on our behalf
This country must be involved directly with the UK and EU negotiating our future
Its going to get very nasty as it all host up
And as we all realise we cannot put our future soley in the hands of those who will not face the consequences of what happens
Will we see bombings all over Europe as a result of the failure of the GFA? No
Will our industries be in a stronger position than Europe to survive loosing our biggest trading country
Agriculture especially will face decimation if no deal results from an intransigent EU
And looking back to the crash we were treated in an abysmal manner
Nigel
There is no ‘war’ against the UK, except maybe the UK at war with itself. There is the UK utterly and incompetently thrashing about with no plan and no vision and no preparation and no ability to negotiate but with plenty of nasty anti-EU rhetoric shirking all responsibility for the mess they’ve made. Like yours.
david
Nonsense rhetoric dear boy
Read between the lines you can see it
The Brits are playing poker and when you negotiate you do not reveal your full hand
If Britain had a trade deal like the one they have now fine but the EU will not tolerate that
And that works both ways
The main gripe the Brits have is the security of its borders
You see what concerns me is that anything the UK proposes the EU will reject
No matter how reasonable
Nigel
The Brits are playing Snap everyone else is playing Negotiate The Departure Of The UK From The EU.
anyone
fair enough David but what proposal do you suggest as an alternative for our foreign policy?
david
Regarding what?
The north or europe
david
Good old Nigel
Can I sell you a second hand car
Meanwhile the Sinn feinners will not take up their seats in the UK parliament and neutralise the orange card
Yep will not kiss the queens bottom but kiss the frau’s
This is the importance of the GFA
And the possibility if that breaks the troubles will arrive down here
That is the importance Sinn feinn must take their seats and politically get to work before the rabid factions return to their old ways
Principles mean nothing when the threat of returning to murder and bombing in the communities who voted for them start again
But alas like before when fine Gael were in charge the GFA broke down fact
Nigel
Blaming everyone but the UK for the threat to GF, no matter how much incoherent vague nonsense you have to spew to do it would be adorable if it weren’t so poisonous. You want to save the GFA? Reverse Brexit. That’s it. No other way. As you say yourself, principles mean nothing with that threat hanging over us.
david
Reverse brexit
The British voted out full stop
If Sinn feinn refuse to take up their seats through so called principles and what principles?
Principle that lead to war
If they took their seats and played a green card in the corridors of power in the UK they could reduce the cards that the unionists are playing
But they prefer to sit and remain powerless on the sidelines hoping the unionists want to share power in a institution that Sinn feinn have a say so they say so what is their agenda?
Maybe they in reality are only like those who they represent use the power of the bomb
Nigel take your head out of your donkey
Nigel
Yup. Only way. They trampled over the GFA, recklessly risking a return to violence when they voted for Brexit. If they’re serious about preserving peace, they need to reverse it and reconsider. Anything else is utter disregard for the lives of people in the North. That’s just the way it is. The fact that you’ll attack anyone but Brexiteers over this shows it’s all just rhetoric to you, too, the same as it is with other Bexiteers.
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Good old convene
No side talks with the UK over brexit which out of all EU states will suffer the greatest
Our future has been taken out of our hands
Rather scary stuff
The whole good Friday agreement is sadly doomed as the EU move to crush the UK which they will not but sadly for us we will be ruined
Grow a pair of balls varadka for this is way beyond you and your teams
Micky martin you must pull the plug before its too late
Careful now David. That doesn’t sound like the prevailing blog consensus !
I know for many have short memories
Thst doesn’t sound like anything coherent.
Pre good Friday in the north and the crash here and the debt we were forced to pay as our gutless governments post crash allowed others to pillage us
And these are the same friends we sit back and allow our future to be formed
And coveney telling the Brits what is what penned by the reich
Have we received any concrete proposal that our nation will be compensated from the EU over severe economic consequences from brexit ? No
The rest will negotiate for us no matter what consequences we receive as a result of the EU FU to the UK
Wake up man we mean nothing to the EU
We mean nothing to the UK, you mean. Less than nothing, we’re one more screw-up in their disastrously ill-thought and ill-planned exercise in nationalistic self-mutilation, but they’ve bought off the DUP so it’s all the usual noises and hand-waving and confusion from the Tories while Ireland tries to remind everyone how important the GFA is and the EU acts like grown-ups. I mean, your babbling comments here are so stupid they can only be spin: Varadkar can only insist on no border, he absolutely has to. But the UK can’t exit the EU without imposing a border. The EU know this, but the UK is projecting wild fantasies to cover up their abject betrayal of Good Friday. The UK started shaping this future when it voted for Brexit without regard for the consequences.
Oh FFS. You clowns love to snipe and criticise but never actually contribute anything yourselves now do you?
The only way the GFA is doomed is if the British renege on commitments given within an international treaty. Side talks or under the table deals are not going to happen because the Irish have no authority to single handily negotiate where Europe starts or stops.
Unless they come up with some sort of fudge on the definition of a customs union, the line will be drawn between UK and ROI OR between Britain and Ireland. It really is that simple. May’s speech yesterday just kicked the can down the road. A very short road, about 12 months in time travel.
“The only way the GFA is doomed is if the British renege on commitments given within an international treaty”
It’s looking increasingly likely that may happen though soq, clearly the UK is not going to devolve any sovereignty given the current parliamentary maths – if there is a Labour government then, who knows?
I think the battle lines are getting drawn in on this, and May is fighting a tough hand but seems to have rallied all her crowd behind her again. In the end I think NI will have a special status both in and out of the UK and the EU. Have always thought that was the answer here.
And this is why the feinners must take their seats and convene makes it his business to have bi lateral talks with the EU and UK
The strategy of sitting there and leaving the EU who we have 5%say if that will act in the interest of what matters to them and we are so insignificant we do not count
The game being played is so beyond the capability of a government who cannot even deliver housing broadband or health
Well there’s no doubt about that, but in the circumstances I think they’re doing fine with a difficult hand. In the long run it makes more sense to align ourselves to the EU bloc but I feel that Coveney and Varadkar could do better on the diplomacy front too
Step back to before Brexit. The main trust, at least as far as a lot of voters were concerned, was immigration. Now it is all about trade and not a mention of immigration. Why is that?
Any restriction to the free movement of people on the island of Ireland will be resisted in ways never seen before, particularly by those who were never involved in the conflict. Call it what you will but passports will be mandatory when travelling between the island of Ireland and Britain. There is no other way of doing it.
As for care homes
Is there still not regulations in place to ensure these clauses are not clear and fair
Maybe its time to make this a criminal act to dupe people who are not in full faculty to consent to a change of their care
Time for the garda to investigate and bring charges for deception
U K
Anyone true in theory that’s what we all want but reality is the EU will in its war against the UK because if the UK thrive then many powerhouses will consider leaving the EU which is the problem
As we have seen it develops with two tiers
Look at the troika what they did to us and how we capitulated
This monster the EU has become is unbending hence the UK getting out
The EU will punish the UK and that will in turn punish us and the troika was evidence with language like if you do not pay bond holders a bomb will go off in Dublin
We will suffer because we are caught in the crossfire
This is I believe beyond varadka and coveney
They are not being seen to do anything but sit back and leave others who do not live in our country to negotiate on our behalf
This country must be involved directly with the UK and EU negotiating our future
Its going to get very nasty as it all host up
And as we all realise we cannot put our future soley in the hands of those who will not face the consequences of what happens
Will we see bombings all over Europe as a result of the failure of the GFA? No
Will our industries be in a stronger position than Europe to survive loosing our biggest trading country
Agriculture especially will face decimation if no deal results from an intransigent EU
And looking back to the crash we were treated in an abysmal manner
There is no ‘war’ against the UK, except maybe the UK at war with itself. There is the UK utterly and incompetently thrashing about with no plan and no vision and no preparation and no ability to negotiate but with plenty of nasty anti-EU rhetoric shirking all responsibility for the mess they’ve made. Like yours.
Nonsense rhetoric dear boy
Read between the lines you can see it
The Brits are playing poker and when you negotiate you do not reveal your full hand
If Britain had a trade deal like the one they have now fine but the EU will not tolerate that
And that works both ways
The main gripe the Brits have is the security of its borders
You see what concerns me is that anything the UK proposes the EU will reject
No matter how reasonable
The Brits are playing Snap everyone else is playing Negotiate The Departure Of The UK From The EU.
fair enough David but what proposal do you suggest as an alternative for our foreign policy?
Regarding what?
The north or europe
Good old Nigel
Can I sell you a second hand car
Meanwhile the Sinn feinners will not take up their seats in the UK parliament and neutralise the orange card
Yep will not kiss the queens bottom but kiss the frau’s
This is the importance of the GFA
And the possibility if that breaks the troubles will arrive down here
That is the importance Sinn feinn must take their seats and politically get to work before the rabid factions return to their old ways
Principles mean nothing when the threat of returning to murder and bombing in the communities who voted for them start again
But alas like before when fine Gael were in charge the GFA broke down fact
Blaming everyone but the UK for the threat to GF, no matter how much incoherent vague nonsense you have to spew to do it would be adorable if it weren’t so poisonous. You want to save the GFA? Reverse Brexit. That’s it. No other way. As you say yourself, principles mean nothing with that threat hanging over us.
Reverse brexit
The British voted out full stop
If Sinn feinn refuse to take up their seats through so called principles and what principles?
Principle that lead to war
If they took their seats and played a green card in the corridors of power in the UK they could reduce the cards that the unionists are playing
But they prefer to sit and remain powerless on the sidelines hoping the unionists want to share power in a institution that Sinn feinn have a say so they say so what is their agenda?
Maybe they in reality are only like those who they represent use the power of the bomb
Nigel take your head out of your donkey
Yup. Only way. They trampled over the GFA, recklessly risking a return to violence when they voted for Brexit. If they’re serious about preserving peace, they need to reverse it and reconsider. Anything else is utter disregard for the lives of people in the North. That’s just the way it is. The fact that you’ll attack anyone but Brexiteers over this shows it’s all just rhetoric to you, too, the same as it is with other Bexiteers.