they sound great too, have the most beautiful engine ever made (weird thing to say I know but I’m an engine nerd)
Martco
oh & a fascinating fact to add…
see that twin cockpit trainer one in the foreground? that’s MJ627. we used to own that aircraft (Irish Air Corps). unfortunately we sold it off for buttons after retirement in the 60’s
Thanks for that bit of trivia. And yes, they do have the most beautiful sounding engine, the RR Merlin …..Mmmmmm :)
Bull Duggan
The Merlin engine was the unsung hero of the 2nd World War.
Used not only in the Spitfire it powered the Hurricane,Mosquito and the Lancaster Bomber.
A truly remarkable engine.
Matt Lucozade: The Only Reader of the Village
Well spotted. The T9 Spitfire is ex-Irish Aer Corps, through originally was an RCAF machine and not a trainer version.
Yep as Europe crumbled they were the only thing that stood in the way of Hitler and his evil
Britain stood alone a beacon of hope
Sadly we now see the forth Reich emerged and Britain again stands there alone yet again
Brother Barnabas
that brought a tear to my eye, david
realPolithicks
What is the “fourth reich”?
mildred st. meadowlark
A thrilling piece of sci-fi fiction that will be hitting the shelves in late 2018.
Papi
Certain tell tale signs then I check all media Russian European American Arabic and trawl through the internet before making up my mind
jusayinlike
This INM racket
A cute ruse to promote FFGLAB’ beloved data commissioner.
The Dude
‘INM Journalists’??
That was funny yesterday – but its not April Fools anymore.
Although the story is actually very funny from other angles :-D
GiggidyGoo
Some of them probably caught by the boo boos. I’d be surprised at any of them suing, as the chances of them getting another job in Irish media would be slim. That, and our taxpayers money paying for INM to keep afloat, meaning that we’d actually be paying for the law suit, so money no problem for INM.
The bigger issue here is the protection of sources.
Frilly Keane
Yeah
I don’t think this is the story they’re all plugging it as either
‘had a good sift thru everything yesterday
4 or more ( depending on who knows what about who )
Matters for Statutory bodies, from Corporate Enforcement, Data lads and Irish Stock Exchange
The rest are matters for the Dublin talking heads on the telly and radio
And civil actions
IMO
ReproBertie (SCU)
Only the Irish Times bothers to mention the cracking league final yesterday on the front pages. Galway were brilliant. Best match I’ve been to in a long time.
MaryLou's ArmaLite
The football wasn’t great but the tension and drama were. The game has become so physical and cynical, seeing Dublin complain about other teams being dirty is just laughable. 3 reds in last 3 games…but the other team were dirty.
ReproBertie (SCU)
The game has hardly become cynical. Sure they brought in the black card because of cynical fouling. And the physicality was always present.
It wasn’t 70 minutes of beautiful football but there some moments of magic. The Galway keeper’s saves for one and Comer’s Garryowen point for another
ReproBertie (SCU)
(The Indo wasn’t up when I posted.)
Bertie Blenkinsop
Agreed, great game, Galway look a real force to be reckoned with, don’t know how strong their panel is though….
GiggidyGoo
SCU in overdrive this weekend:-
Varadkar waning people again.
RTE clampdown on mixers
Clampdown on a state contracts
Flanagan Reviewing
Transport Authority U-turn
RSA reviewing
This is the tack now. Produce all these airy fairy announcements (there will be a plethora of them) to ty give the impression that they’ve seen the light. They ain’t fooling anyone.
MaryLou's ArmaLite
Not a patch on the SF SCU
GiggidyGoo
Oh – look over there!
realPolithicks
You FF’s are really freaked out by SF….
Frilly Keane
Not only all that GG
Two FFers getting front pg coverage
Sean Fleming isn’t on MMartins front bench and Dermot Ahern is long gone
They’ve made sure MMartin and his hand picks are nowhere
GiggidyGoo
this will be the form until June, when the CSU comes into being.
Ron
‘Brussels in fake news crackdown’. Well they can start with the fake news headline on the front of the Times that refers to the ‘INM journalists’. Journalists!!!!!! PMSL. The dimwits in INM couldn’t string a sentence together with alphabet soup, never mind write a compelling piece of journalism.
Mary Lou McDonald said about the rape case yesterday “You are left with a completely unsatisfactory situation where the person raising the complaint has very limited, in this jurisdiction, access to legal advice and an ability to cross-examine and virtually none in the North. That needs to be fixed,”
And that just about sums it up. As it stands, the claimant goes into court with both hands tied behind their back and is wholly reliant on the competence and/or bias of the state prosecutor.
Would you be more likely to believe a male rape victim than a female one? There no evidence that motives of regret or lying are commonplace so those who hold that default assumption should be asking themselves why.
Ron
Get over it. They were tried by a jury of their peers. The prosecution put forward the evidence and the jury of peers decided they were innocent. Innocent until proven guilty.
anne
She was tried..not them.
Lush
+1
rotide
While I have sympathy for the amount of cross she recieved, it’s pretty idiotic to state they were not tried
“And just because a lawyer somewhere managed to introduce some reasonable doubt does not mean that a defendant is innocent. It merely means that “beyond reasonable doubt” couldn’t be fulfilled.
This does not mean a thing didn’t happen.”
petey
that would then be true of every trial with an acquittal.
not limited to situations like this.
SOQ
Yes, apparently so. I expect ‘reasonable doubt’ is a given on certain types of charges, then the court issues instructions to the jury.
Thats very interesting SOQ thanks for posting it. I wonder if anyone would try introuduce something similar in Ireland.
Bull Duggan
The Irish Times headline should say accusers rather than victims.
But hey since when has the Irish Times cared about facts ?
Jimmey_russell
ugh do we really need these displays of nationalism in this day and age? also I dont understand why easter is still a public holidays as we move towards a more secular society, these kinds of displays are dangerously offensive to muslims, atheists and especially jews
mildred st. meadowlark
We need a full bank holiday weekend to consume as much chocolate as possible. I thought this was canonical law, no?
rotide
This is 11 star KenM stuff
Spaghetti Hoop
Jews celebrate Passover at this time. It was actually determined a Christian holiday centuries later because of the Jesus Christ phenomenon. For muslims, most international employers offer a holiday at Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha, then what is termed a ‘floating holiday’ of one day to allow all faiths observe and/or celebrate a key date in their religious calendars, eg., Diwali. This floating day applies to atheists too, so they can spend time with their families, feasting or gifting or giving out.
bisted
…Hiya Hoop…I’m atheist…in fact, a card carrying atheist…please don’t associate me with those theists…it’s simple really…they have ‘faith’ and we don’t…
Janet, I ate my Avatar
as a fellow non believer I can still confirm the giving outs still happens …I blame the suger crashes
Janet, I ate my Avatar
as a fellow non believer I can still confirm the giving outs still happens …I blame the suger crashes, nice to see you back in this neck of the woods hoopy,
Matt Lucozade: The Only Reader of the Village
Uproar over Irish rugby players and attitudes in the game and yet the Daily Mail, Independent, Examiner and naturally, the Irish Times, all featuring rugby on their front pages to sell more….
fergalfurious
So the people in uproar don’t buy papers, or they’re insignificant in number or what?
david
The reason rugby is featured is reporting results ,success and how much pride they are bringing us.
Its a sport it is not rape.
Thousands of men and women play rugby and are you calling them rapists or condoning rape?
Just knock it off its bordering on a mc carthy witch hunt
These men were found innocent move on .
SOQ
The IRFU made a loss last year so they will be particularly sensitive to sponsor’s concerns. In addition to the financial blowback, they risk damaging the sport’s reputation if they are not seen to be taking action.
There is already a protest organised for the Ulster grounds on Friday 13th of April. This is not going to go away. Hell has no fury like a woman’s corns.
ollie
They were found not guilty of rape. They are however guilty of of disgusting behavior, imho.
Hopefully the IRFU will ban them for breach of contract
SOQ
They were found not guilty of rape with the legal presumption of innocence. Given that the legal bar of successful rape prosecutions within NI is obviously so much higher than either ROI or Britain, that presumption of innocence is not something to be threatening the internet with.
some old queen
As sponsors go, BT will fold pretty easily but it will probably take Kingscourt a while longer for the brand to feel the pinch. Then again, Monaghan women were never known as being backward at coming forward so I expect there will be a few warm ears around the odd kitchen table.
Aye, first part was but it improved… Comleth Hill as his brother was v good. Thought Gillen’s performance improved as the show progressed…. less said about Tommy the better :)
Don’t worry
I won’t be running anywhere in me undies
Those Spitfires look amazing :)
Are you and Frilly commenting on the same photo?
hahaha Lush :D
they sound great too, have the most beautiful engine ever made (weird thing to say I know but I’m an engine nerd)
oh & a fascinating fact to add…
see that twin cockpit trainer one in the foreground? that’s MJ627. we used to own that aircraft (Irish Air Corps). unfortunately we sold it off for buttons after retirement in the 60’s
Thanks for that bit of trivia. And yes, they do have the most beautiful sounding engine, the RR Merlin …..Mmmmmm :)
The Merlin engine was the unsung hero of the 2nd World War.
Used not only in the Spitfire it powered the Hurricane,Mosquito and the Lancaster Bomber.
A truly remarkable engine.
Well spotted. The T9 Spitfire is ex-Irish Aer Corps, through originally was an RCAF machine and not a trainer version.
http://www.waddingtonflyingclub.com/mj627_history.html
Others sold off were not without incident, by the way:
https://flyinginireland.com/2015/09/ex-irish-air-corps-spitfire-engine-failure-in-kent/
Rolls Royce Merlin – also transformed the P-51 Mustang into the machine that became famous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang
Yep as Europe crumbled they were the only thing that stood in the way of Hitler and his evil
Britain stood alone a beacon of hope
Sadly we now see the forth Reich emerged and Britain again stands there alone yet again
that brought a tear to my eye, david
What is the “fourth reich”?
A thrilling piece of sci-fi fiction that will be hitting the shelves in late 2018.
Certain tell tale signs then I check all media Russian European American Arabic and trawl through the internet before making up my mind
This INM racket
A cute ruse to promote FFGLAB’ beloved data commissioner.
‘INM Journalists’??
That was funny yesterday – but its not April Fools anymore.
Although the story is actually very funny from other angles :-D
Some of them probably caught by the boo boos. I’d be surprised at any of them suing, as the chances of them getting another job in Irish media would be slim. That, and our taxpayers money paying for INM to keep afloat, meaning that we’d actually be paying for the law suit, so money no problem for INM.
The bigger issue here is the protection of sources.
Yeah
I don’t think this is the story they’re all plugging it as either
‘had a good sift thru everything yesterday
4 or more ( depending on who knows what about who )
Matters for Statutory bodies, from Corporate Enforcement, Data lads and Irish Stock Exchange
The rest are matters for the Dublin talking heads on the telly and radio
And civil actions
IMO
Only the Irish Times bothers to mention the cracking league final yesterday on the front pages. Galway were brilliant. Best match I’ve been to in a long time.
The football wasn’t great but the tension and drama were. The game has become so physical and cynical, seeing Dublin complain about other teams being dirty is just laughable. 3 reds in last 3 games…but the other team were dirty.
The game has hardly become cynical. Sure they brought in the black card because of cynical fouling. And the physicality was always present.
It wasn’t 70 minutes of beautiful football but there some moments of magic. The Galway keeper’s saves for one and Comer’s Garryowen point for another
(The Indo wasn’t up when I posted.)
Agreed, great game, Galway look a real force to be reckoned with, don’t know how strong their panel is though….
SCU in overdrive this weekend:-
Varadkar waning people again.
RTE clampdown on mixers
Clampdown on a state contracts
Flanagan Reviewing
Transport Authority U-turn
RSA reviewing
This is the tack now. Produce all these airy fairy announcements (there will be a plethora of them) to ty give the impression that they’ve seen the light. They ain’t fooling anyone.
Not a patch on the SF SCU
Oh – look over there!
You FF’s are really freaked out by SF….
Not only all that GG
Two FFers getting front pg coverage
Sean Fleming isn’t on MMartins front bench and Dermot Ahern is long gone
They’ve made sure MMartin and his hand picks are nowhere
this will be the form until June, when the CSU comes into being.
‘Brussels in fake news crackdown’. Well they can start with the fake news headline on the front of the Times that refers to the ‘INM journalists’. Journalists!!!!!! PMSL. The dimwits in INM couldn’t string a sentence together with alphabet soup, never mind write a compelling piece of journalism.
But don’t forget, Stephen Rae is on the Fake News Commttee in Europe. Simple matter of applying for it. Hogan probably sent him the application form.
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/03/15/discerning-fakes/
Rae’s a laugh!
Mary Lou McDonald said about the rape case yesterday “You are left with a completely unsatisfactory situation where the person raising the complaint has very limited, in this jurisdiction, access to legal advice and an ability to cross-examine and virtually none in the North. That needs to be fixed,”
And that just about sums it up. As it stands, the claimant goes into court with both hands tied behind their back and is wholly reliant on the competence and/or bias of the state prosecutor.
Would you be more likely to believe a male rape victim than a female one? There no evidence that motives of regret or lying are commonplace so those who hold that default assumption should be asking themselves why.
Get over it. They were tried by a jury of their peers. The prosecution put forward the evidence and the jury of peers decided they were innocent. Innocent until proven guilty.
She was tried..not them.
+1
While I have sympathy for the amount of cross she recieved, it’s pretty idiotic to state they were not tried
Have a read, you may learn something.
https://twitter.com/zenbuffy/status/979007061424996352
Or if that is too much work, just this one tweet.
“And just because a lawyer somewhere managed to introduce some reasonable doubt does not mean that a defendant is innocent. It merely means that “beyond reasonable doubt” couldn’t be fulfilled.
This does not mean a thing didn’t happen.”
that would then be true of every trial with an acquittal.
not limited to situations like this.
Yes, apparently so. I expect ‘reasonable doubt’ is a given on certain types of charges, then the court issues instructions to the jury.
https://businessandlegal.ie/not-guilty-does-not-mean-innocent-in-criminal-law
+1
Interesting development in Iceland as to what constitutes consent.
https://grapevine.is/news/2018/03/23/iceland-unanimously-passes-landmark-law-on-sexual-consent/
Thats very interesting SOQ thanks for posting it. I wonder if anyone would try introuduce something similar in Ireland.
The Irish Times headline should say accusers rather than victims.
But hey since when has the Irish Times cared about facts ?
ugh do we really need these displays of nationalism in this day and age? also I dont understand why easter is still a public holidays as we move towards a more secular society, these kinds of displays are dangerously offensive to muslims, atheists and especially jews
We need a full bank holiday weekend to consume as much chocolate as possible. I thought this was canonical law, no?
This is 11 star KenM stuff
Jews celebrate Passover at this time. It was actually determined a Christian holiday centuries later because of the Jesus Christ phenomenon. For muslims, most international employers offer a holiday at Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha, then what is termed a ‘floating holiday’ of one day to allow all faiths observe and/or celebrate a key date in their religious calendars, eg., Diwali. This floating day applies to atheists too, so they can spend time with their families, feasting or gifting or giving out.
…Hiya Hoop…I’m atheist…in fact, a card carrying atheist…please don’t associate me with those theists…it’s simple really…they have ‘faith’ and we don’t…
as a fellow non believer I can still confirm the giving outs still happens …I blame the suger crashes
as a fellow non believer I can still confirm the giving outs still happens …I blame the suger crashes, nice to see you back in this neck of the woods hoopy,
Uproar over Irish rugby players and attitudes in the game and yet the Daily Mail, Independent, Examiner and naturally, the Irish Times, all featuring rugby on their front pages to sell more….
So the people in uproar don’t buy papers, or they’re insignificant in number or what?
The reason rugby is featured is reporting results ,success and how much pride they are bringing us.
Its a sport it is not rape.
Thousands of men and women play rugby and are you calling them rapists or condoning rape?
Just knock it off its bordering on a mc carthy witch hunt
These men were found innocent move on .
The IRFU made a loss last year so they will be particularly sensitive to sponsor’s concerns. In addition to the financial blowback, they risk damaging the sport’s reputation if they are not seen to be taking action.
There is already a protest organised for the Ulster grounds on Friday 13th of April. This is not going to go away. Hell has no fury like a woman’s corns.
They were found not guilty of rape. They are however guilty of of disgusting behavior, imho.
Hopefully the IRFU will ban them for breach of contract
They were found not guilty of rape with the legal presumption of innocence. Given that the legal bar of successful rape prosecutions within NI is obviously so much higher than either ROI or Britain, that presumption of innocence is not something to be threatening the internet with.
As sponsors go, BT will fold pretty easily but it will probably take Kingscourt a while longer for the brand to feel the pinch. Then again, Monaghan women were never known as being backward at coming forward so I expect there will be a few warm ears around the odd kitchen table.
if I’d known the Dave Allen programme was on BBC1 at 9pm icoukd be goin’ ta bed 40 mins earlier :)
it was pretty weak I thought, v.disappointed
Aye, first part was but it improved… Comleth Hill as his brother was v good. Thought Gillen’s performance improved as the show progressed…. less said about Tommy the better :)