“Lads, Can You Please Just ‘Cop On'”

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij5jm3QvqO0&feature=youtu.be

This afternoon/evening.

Leinster House

Independent TD Clare Daly (top) responds to the Eighth Amendment Referendum result with a rebuke to recent converts to the Yes side, including Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and Health minister Simon Harris (pic 2).

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69 thoughts on ““Lads, Can You Please Just ‘Cop On'”

  1. Ina.

    She’s spot on. Varadker and Harris were anti-choice until internal FG polls told them the majority wanted the 8th repealed. Cynicism at its worst.

    1. Dinny Do Well?

      Indeed. Cynicism at its worst. That’s why they put Josepha Madigan in charge on their side. She hasn’t a hope in that constituency otherwise. Pathetic. Her name was on the Yes posters. “Let’s get Josepha elected again with a no-brainer political success”.

    2. Cu Cullan

      A great speech. Clare was targeted, stopped and arrested, falsely, by our guardians of the peace on orders. That’s the country we live in. Great women.

      1. Cian

        “Clare was targeted, stopped and arrested, falsely, by our guardians of the peace on orders. ”
        Really? Evidence please.

      2. Rob_G

        I heard it was because she performed an illegal u-turn in front of a marked garda car, myself

        1. Cian

          If you believe this website[1], it was that she was out late, had a hot whiskey and on the way home “took a right turn onto the South Circular Road trying to get back onto the North side – unfortunately there is No Right Turn at this junction and this was brought to my attention by Gardai in a car who stopped me.
          I was breathalysed but the equipment didn’t register a reading. I was arrested”

          So, yes, she had a drink before driving, broke a traffic law, and was arrested. She later gave a urine sample and the result was 45 mg per 100 ml of urine, (which is below limit of 67 mg).

          So you could say “Clare was targeted, stopped and arrested, falsely, by our guardians of the peace on orders.”

          [1] looks dodgy: http://claredaly.ie/statement-from-clare-daly-td/

          1. Cu Cullan

            Thank you for elaborating. If 3 trees are growing in a row then a human hand played a part..! Were any other TDs, asking similar questions, treated in a similar but different manner around the same time? We have seen how the brass in the Park work. It’s part of a pattern. Countless cars make that turn outside of rush hour. Garda cars have beeped at people to hurry up and make that turn. They make that turn.

          2. Cian

            Seriously? You need a bigger tin-foil hat.

            You actually think that the Park Gardaí had a APB out, that if a rank-and-file member saw Clare Daly break the law, that they were to arrest her? Perhaps they were sent to that particular corner to wait for her (the fact that she is never in that neck of the woods is irrelevant).

            Bottom line: She broke the law. She was (legally) pulled over. She had been drinking. She was a breathalyzed (but it failed), so was arrested and had to provide a urine sample. This sample proves she had a drink – albeit under the limit.

            The only way she was wronged was the fact of her arrest being leaked to the press – that was 100% wrong.

    1. rotide

      You didn’t watch it did you.

      If you did you’d know exactly why they were grinning and would be aware of the spin being put on this

      1. Bob

        I watched a bit and skimmed over the transcript. Short attention span what can I say.

        Are they really grinning like eejits because they’re going to get credit for the result even though they were against it last election? Is that the implication I’m supposed to already get?

        They’ve still got a few months to turn a victory in failure.

        1. rotide

          What transcript?

          Watch the video and you’ll see why they’re grinning like eejits. It’s harmless.

          1. Bob

            Any Youtube video that has auto subtitles/captions also has a transcript of those captions.

            You need to right click on the video and “Copy URL” then reopen the video and watch it on youtube.
            Under the video to the right there are three dots, click on the the dots “Open transcript” is one of the options and you can read the subtitles.

  2. rotide

    I like how the headline completely ignores the credit that she gives to varadkar and harris

    Talk about hammering home an agenda. It’s indistinguishable from Fox News.

  3. Harry Molloy

    No better cailin to focus on a negative.
    Still not as good as Coppinger though.

    1. Sham Bob

      Ironic then that one of the few negative comments on this speech is coming from yourself. No better buachaill!

  4. Elron

    I like Clare. She has the grit and the personal conviction that demands respect. She was never afraid to call it like it is and wasn’t trying to win pure like some of the more narcissistic campaigners.

  5. Sheik Yahbouti

    Some things just don’t change, do they. However, out in the real world they just might – people are energized!

  6. SOQ

    I don’t know why Clare is surprised, the exact same thing happened with equal marriage. Such is the nature of social change, those who done the heavy lifting rarely get the credit.

    1. Geansai

      I didn’t get the impression that she was surprised. She was just making it clear where the credit actually lies.

  7. GiggidyGoo

    Thanks be to whoever (God?) we are finally getting away from the two party state. Clare Daly, Mick Wallace etc. have done this country so much service and have rewarded their electorate massively.
    Varadkar and Harris can wallow, briefly, in their bringing this to fruition. But they had to be dragged into doing it.
    What will follow is legislation. Written by civil servants. Not understood but presented by Harris. Donohue and coveney have experience of flawed legislation.
    We currently have waiting lists for everything. 400,000+ people on them? Do we end up an Irish joke about 12 month waiting lists?

    1. Bob

      Mick Wallace should have been thrown out.
      Bankrupt.

      Don’t hold him up as a model of anything.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        He’s held a magnifying glass to the established parties, and the leeches and hangers on. If you’d like a list of FFG politicians that have a iffy financial or even violent past, you won’t have to look too far.

        1. Bob

          The flaws of FF and FG don’t make the flaws of bankrupt Mick Wallace any less obvious.
          Other bad things do not make Mick Wallace less bad.
          It is laughable to even suggest it, and a fine example of whataboutism.

          Only a few years ago a bankrupt such as himself would have been ineligible to hold a seat in the Dáil.
          The law may have changed but he’s still unfit for the job and you are a very silly person to hold him up as any kind of model of virtue.

          You make Clare Daly look bad by putting her in the same sentence with him.

          1. postmanpat

            Maybe she should stop palling around with him then? Like that time they were boosting each other over the Shannon airport fence. The man is a phony , he has been called out as such many times by opposing politicians. She should have distanced herself from him from day one. Then she might have some more support from cynical non-election voters (like me) who think they are all the same*. (* except for far worse Sinn Fein, who are ideologically out of kilter with sane people, and wouldn’t know the first thing about how to govern a country if they ever got power )

          2. johnny

            im sane ok
            everyone else is crazy
            im sane ok
            everyone else is crazy
            im sane ok
            everyone else is crazy
            IM SANE OK
            insane…..

      2. Starina

        Not sure I understand. Did Wallace declare bankruptcy? And if so, how does that affect his abilities in the Dáil?

        1. Daisy Chainsaw

          They changed it so you no longer have to resign your seat when they tinkered with the bankruptcy laws. I’m sure they meant it for the likes of themselves, not the likes of Wallace!

    2. Sheik Yahbouti

      Well said, giggedy. There actually IS hope, but it’s up to us to support them. in other words, feet on the street, it’s all these dinosaurs understand.

    3. Rob_G

      Most recent opinion poll (and this was taken before the referendum, I imagine FG have gone up a point or two since then) has FG at 30% & FF at 23%, while SDs on 1% and ‘others’ (which includes Independents 4 Change along with many others) at 10%.

      I don’t think that the the ‘two-party’ state* is dead and buried quite yet.

      *there has not been a single party govt for well over 30 years, so I don’t know how you could really characterise a country that always has a coalition govt as a two-party state

      1. Cian

        Agreed.
        Equally, if all the TDs were like Clare the Dáil would be a complete clusterfupp; you can’t govern a country with if all TDs are independent. You need cohesion.

  8. Tim

    Please can we move on . The people have spoken enact the law and get on with as equally important making sure people have a roof over their heads

  9. gringo

    Last night i had a strange kinda dream. I found myself outside Dublin Castle, selling glasses of the rose tinted variety. The user of these( I) spectacles will see, not Dr. Death and his sidekick Slimy Simon dragging dying women through the courts of the land, to the boos and hisses of the proles, but rather Lovely Leo and his good friend Sympathetic Simon lapping up the praise of the proles for having gifted unto them the use of a medieval form of birth control. These items are on special offer. Buy now before their use becomes mandatory, but not compulsory.

      1. gringo

        You still don”t get it. My interest is in the ease with which the mob can be manipulated.

        1. Sheik Yahbouti

          rotide will never get it. he lives in the good old civil service ivory tower – far away from thee and me -btw we’re smelly!

        2. Cian

          Manipulated by people saying things like “Slimy Simon dragging dying women through the courts”?

          you are right, the mob is easily manipulated.

  10. Junkface

    Very good speech. She’s right of course about everything. Change happens so slowly in Ireland. If they could just stop sitting on their hands with the Housing crisis and DO something, that would be great. Oh and also tax the hell out of vulture funds to put them off Ireland.

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