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Flag of St George outside an unnamed Dublin pub during the 2014 World Cup

Further to England’s World Cup advancement…

Ireland-based, England-born Malcolm D writes:

Having had a miniature St George flag ripped off my car during the last World Cup I am preparing to openly support England again and intend wearing my [Three Lions] replica shirt this weekend in Dublin. Is this a wise move or still too soon? Perhaps your readers could help?

Anyone?

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    1. scottser

      nonsense, of course he should. it’s not like we haven’t seen an englishman before is it?

    1. Clampers Outside!

      The Japanese fans and players are something special though :)

      The fans cleaned the seating area, and the players left a spotless locker room with a ‘thank you’re note.

      Very sweet, in fairness.

  1. missred

    Back in the equally hot summer of 2006 I had the ride a few times with a fit English fella (called Ant, no less) during the World Cup. He said when he wore his jersey he got bottles thrown at him. Don’t know if it’s still the same. It depends what pubs you go to. Stick to the places where it’s safety in numbers – avoid that place on Dame St that Argentina fans gather, for example. And probably most of Crumlin.

      1. missred

        It’s also wishful thinking for a repeat, Andy. This heat has me restless!

        By “restless” I mean humping the walls

        1. Spud

          Her indoors has the opposite reaction.
          It’s a dry spell in more ways then one!
          Can’t wait for the cold, wind and rain to return!!

          1. missred

            I thought I had the reverse of seasonal affective disorder where sun made me depressed, obviously my mojo ain’t thinking like that. I semi prefer it in the winter too, though my last ginger was the opposite, he preferred the buckets of sweat flying in all directions and couldn’t be bothered with a towel after

          2. missred

            A towel would be for taking off any post coital sweat if one feels like it.

            What in the name of god is a moue, m’dear? I’d like to think it’s some sort of aide

          3. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            It’s when you scrunch your mouth so it looks like a cat’s hoop.

          4. missred

            Ah I’ve seen worse faces as a fella finishes off, Andy. Cat’s bottom isn’t even the half of it!

        2. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

          Aye. I’d hop up on a cracked tile, I used to say when single. Up on a gust of wind.
          Don’t worry. Some poor fool’ll fling his willy up ya soon. As sure as eggs is eggs.

          1. missred

            Preferably ginger, with decent teeth and no beer belly and I’m his. It may get to the stage when I have to lower my criteria though. Whew, it is warm in here still….

          2. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Like Damian Lewis? I saw him for realz in London once. Tall and incredibly striking.

          3. missred

            Oooh I love me a bit of Mr Lewis…. weirdly I like his posh voice too… it all adds to the bad boy thing…

  2. Spud

    Depends where you walk / drive / work / plan on going to watch the match etc…

    Popping into Temple Bar to watch the game with the 3 lions on? You’ll be right at home…

    Popping in to Noctors pub across town in Sheriff St? Best not…

  3. ReproBertie

    Wear your colours with pride man. Haters gonna hate anyway but hiding your colours means they win.

  4. Andrew

    Wear your colours. Most people don’t care one way or another. You will always get idiots though.
    I’d love to see England win the World Cup.

          1. Brother Barnabas

            do spend a lot of time licking their own testicles, which, like most other acts of sexual deviance, is a gay thing

          2. SOQ

            Now bb, the heat is clearly getting to you, either that or you’ve caught something anti social… Like homophobia.

          3. scottser

            apparently so, according to wiki

            Lions
            Further information: Sexual behavior of lions
            File:Wuppertal – Zoo – Panthera leo 01 (1) ies.webm
            Male lions mating
            Both male and female lions have been seen to interact homosexually.[83][84] Male lions pair-bond for a number of days and initiate homosexual activity with affectionate nuzzling and caressing, leading to mounting and thrusting. About 8% of mountings have been observed to occur with other males. Pairings between females are held to be fairly common in captivity but have not been observed in the wild.

          4. Brother Barnabas

            ah soq, i’d have hoped by now you’d have known i’m joking… go on off now and lick your balls, you weirdo

  5. simon

    Couple of years ago I would have looked askance at anyone complaining about the english in this context.

    Then I belatedly got educated on the true causes of the famine in ireland, and the english empire’s use of systematic use of famine as a imperialist protocol globally.

    Then I got educated on how their country is built on genocide, much of it still unacknowledged and all of it still being felt today, while they still lecture other countries on human rights.

    Then I read surveys that suggest the current english pop are quite happy and proud of this history, probably because their curriculum was whitewashed.

    I no longer look askance.

    Just part of my late-bloomer fisher price political journey.

    1. Andrew

      So you blame Malcolm for all of this? What are you going to do when you see someone in an England jersey Simon?
      Verbally abuse them? Give them a slap?
      No, you won’t, you’ll just quietly seethe inside.
      Grow up Simon.

      1. Nigel

        Haven’t you heard of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: War, Plague, Death and Malcolm?

  6. Brother Barnabas

    anyone over the age of 15* is on dodgy territory wearing a replica shirt (of any team). general rule of thumb: if you don’t actually play for that team, you’ve no business wearing the shirt

    *especially if you’re podgy or more

    1. Optimus Grime

      True! Wearing a replica shirt with the name of a man 20 years your junior is just a bit creepy if you think about it

  7. Ollie Cromwell

    Unfortunately Malcolm you’ve only got to read some of the anti-English racism that regularly appears on here to realise you’re probably going to be making the wrong move.
    Ireland is defined by a massive chip on one shoulder and a huge inferiority complex resting on the other.
    Even though England has been providing a safe welcome to Irish economic refugees for decades there’s also a strain of ingratitude running through the country.
    It’s an ugly mix that shows Ireland off at its worst at times like this.
    There’s a couple of lads in my local who commute to London every week for work – the sort of anti-English guff they come out with makes you wonder why they bother travelling if they hate the place so much.
    Enjoy the game safe in the knowledge that would Ireland be in the world cup ( I know,but bear with me ) no Irishman in England would even be thinking of asking the question you ask and that makes you and your country the better for it.

    1. scottser

      ollie may have found about my fritzel cellar where i keep the stray englishman i pick up at 3am from the p1ss-soaked alleyways around temple bar.
      you can have them back when ye get knocked out of the world cup.
      there may be spray paint on a few of them
      love the irish socialist republican(s)

    2. Nigel

      Malcolm should be free to wear his England shirt without being in danger of endless patronising lectures by Enoch Powell fanboys.

  8. Bernie

    You might as well chance it, it’ll be going back into storage Saturday evening anyway ;-)

    1. scottser

      mmm. three and a half hours without a goal from open play and their next match is against a mean swedish defence. it’s probably a good thing they’ve been practicing penalties..

  9. Diddles

    After the England panama game I walked down ranelagh rd behind 3 hammered drunk English men, they were all wearing England kits. I’ve seen lots of jerseyed football fans around over the past few weeks but I did doubt the English fellas wisdom. Anyway, for the 10 min or so I walked behind them they received no abuse. One did get a whiff off a group of dub young fellas spliff and chased them down the road shouting, ‘mate, you got any to sell’. I didn’t hang around to see the outcome but I’d like to think we’ve all moved on

    1. Spud

      ‘ I walked down ranelagh rd behind 3 hammered drunk English men’.

      Not exactly the most anti-English areas in our fair city to be fair.

      1. Diddles

        I wouldn’t say that now. Only the bravest Englishman would dare walk down Tudor Rd or Oxford lane at night

        1. Spud

          True.
          I guess like Rugby Road just around the corner, they named it to lure those Englishfolk to their untimely demise!

    1. Brother Barnabas

      when you say “MAN U”, are you referring to manchester united? the american-owned, NYSE-listed football club with an american and canadian board of directors; portuguese manager; a squad of players made up of english, spanish, swedish, argentinian, french, chilean, belgian, brazilian, dutch, ecuadorian, serbian, italian, scottish players; and sponsored by german sportswear manufacturer Adidas and american automotive corporation General Motors?

      that english club?

      1. Ollie Cromwell

        Imagine being an Irishman desperately willing for Harry Kane to score for his beloved Spurs every week – and now desperately willing for Sir Harry to fail in an England shirt.
        It’s no wonder so many of them turn to drink.

        1. scottser

          Harry kane of the mayo kanes?
          Good with the feet but cant catch. He’s no lee keegan..

          1. Brother Barnabas

            “Early life
            Harry Edward Kane was born in Walthamstow, London to Kim and Patrick Kane and has one older brother, Charlie.[5][6][7] He has Irish ancestry through his father who is from Galway”

          2. scottser

            a galway man? i stand corrected. there’s only one fate for a galway youngfleh who can’t hurl..

          3. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Apparently all his sporting talent comes from his mother’s side, which is the cause of great chagrin to his Daddio.

      2. Rob_G

        That English club that plays in the EPL, yes.

        Sure, we are all part of the global stew, but arguing that Man Utd are somehow not English is stretching it a bit.

      3. Cian

        Man U are as ‘English’ as the English that invaded Normans that were invited into Ireland back in the 12 centuary

        1. Rob_G

          If Renault had a German CEO, and had many Polish workers building the cars in the factory in France, would the cars themselves be any less French?

  10. SOQ

    Meanwhile in Portadown on Sunday, a man was dragged out through the front window of a car and badly beaten while sitting at traffic lights. His crime? He was wearing a football jersey which identified him as being a Catholic.

    The ‘cultural’ celebrations have started so.

  11. Kolmo

    The vast, vast majority of us don’t give a damn what jersey you wear, there is a whole generation of youngers walking around now with union jacked branded clothing and nobody says anything, admittedly I am a bit surprised to see it, but it isn’t my business. There will always be some “joker” who thinks it’s funny to lob a bottle or attempt banter/murder in Dublin, saying that, try walking daahn Peckam high street or Howslow in London in a German Soccerball jersey..see how long you’d go before someone starts throwing plastic furniture and bins at you..

    1. Cian

      Do you know that the union jack is made up of flags from the various countries within the union? (England, Scotland and Ireland, but not Wales) It contains St Patrick’s flag – to represent Ireland.
      So Paddy can wear it with pride.

      1. Rob_G

        Mmmm no. Well, everyone can wear what they like, sure, but the Union Jack is basically England saying ‘look at all these countries we conquered!’, and not some emblem representation of a harmonious union of countries, with none inferior to any of the others.

        1. Cian

          Not exactly. If that were true then the union jack would have included bits of all 83 countries within the empire. But it doesn’t. Ireland wasn’t part of the conquered. Ireland was the conqueror – over a third of the “British army” in the 18th/19th century was Irish regiments.

          1. Rob_G

            The way that you are describing it makes it sound like England invited us to take part in this joint-enterprise, rather than several hundred years of subjugation to co-opt us.

            Similarly, joining the British Army was often the only choice for some sons that didn’t inherit their family’s land, it is necessarily an endorsement of the union.

  12. Elron

    Ah Broadsheet, the home of the self loathing Stockholm syndrome suffering smarmbags. The only place you’ll find people loving England and hating Israel. Cos like Hamas loike……. England has so much blood on its hands. Gallons of it Irish.

    1. Deimos

      Hiya Elron !

      Thats me the half breed, eng/ire, hamas hating, jew loving, green voting, typical Broadsheet commenting eejit.

      Nice to be recognised.

  13. Frilly Keane

    ah FFS
    wear what ya like bhoy

    just cause some of us don’t like it doesn’t mean you need to come on here to get an excuse not wear your colours
    like
    if you were all that
    loud and proud about your jersey like

    no-one would stop you wearing it

    bloody wimp
    and trying to blame the Paddies n’all

    cop on ta’ yerself ou’dat

  14. george

    It was great to have couple of English lads in the pub last night when Columbia scored. Everyone cheered except them. It’ll be even better when Sweden knock them out. So wear it, Irish people will find it very entertaining.

  15. Ollie Cromwell

    A fine display of embittered Irish begrudgery on display here today.
    Top internetting Malcolm.
    I’m off to order my replica 33rd Team shirt in memory of the international laughing stock Ireland became over the Hand of Frog.

    1. Brother Barnabas

      in fairness, charger – it’s english people like you who give the rest a bad reputation. and it’s not just on broadsheet. and it’s not just in ireland. nobody anywhere likes you. it’s because you’re a cn ut. english people like you should apologise to the many decent english people for the harm you do to them.

      1. Ollie Cromwell

        To be honest old sport it’s hard to take seriously someone who hasn’t mastered the use of capital letters.
        The English language is important and should be used correctly,especially if you’re attempting to insult a fellow.
        Try a tad harder next time.

        1. Brother Barnabas

          say all that again, but this time with proper placement of commas. i’ll start you off:

          “To be honest, old sport, it’s…”

          off you go now

  16. Not On Your Nelly

    I want England to do well, I do not want England to win the World Cup. Please England, be bad now. Thanks

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