Upstairs Downstairs


This morning.

Taoiseach  Leo Varadkar officially opens 42 new social homes at Stormanstown House, Ballymun Road, Dublin 9 on  on behalf of the Oaklee Housing Trust.

Forty two.

More as we get it.

Leah Farrell/RollingNews


Jump, etc.

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar joined by  Damien English, Minister of State at the Department of Housing Stormanstown House this morning.


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53 thoughts on “Upstairs Downstairs

  1. ReproButina

    Ballymun Road, Oscar Traynor Road, Darndale, Finglas, Cherrywood. Any of these social houses being built near areas that aren’t already crippled with social deprivation?

      1. ReproButina

        There’s a bit more to it than that Rob. It’s great they’re building houses but spread the load a little.

        1. Rob_G

          If I lived in Coolock and was paying my own way – renting privately or paying a mortgage – I wouldn’t be pleased at the thought that my taxes were paying for someone who was not paying their own way to live in Ballsbridge or Donnybrook.

          What extra taxes would you be willing to pay/which services would you be willing to cut so that we can house all social housing tenants in Dublin 2, 4, 6, or 8?

          1. ReproButina

            We already have social housing in Dublin 2, 4, 6 and 8.

            It’s nothing to do with more taxes or your feelings of inadequacy about where you live. It’s about piling more pressure on already stretched social services. The same areas are expected to take the load again and again and then dismissed as crime black spots and ignored when the residents appeal for help.

            Ballymun, for example, is awash with guns and drugs but it’s only Ballymun so who cares. Kids born in Ballymun have as much right to a future as kids born anywhere else. That’s hamstrung by viewing the area as a carpet to sweep problems under.

          2. Rob_G

            “It’s nothing to do with more taxes…”

            – it has everything to do with more taxes. Land costs money, land in certain places is a lot more expensive than in other places. If you propose to purchase land in more expensive places to provide social housing, you need to decide what will be cut from other parts of the budget to fund this.

            It is about authorities judiciously using the limited resources at their disposal for the maximum benefit.

          3. ReproButina

            The government went into budget 2019 with a surplus of €800m to spend and without adding taxes handed housing an extra €310m, increasing the housing budget to €1.9 billion.

            The money is there. It’s the political will that’s lacking.

          4. Rob_G

            @Repro – who decides what land gets bought/zoned for social housing? I believe it is the county councils; if the govt has allocated enough budget, I am not really sure you can blame them for where the housing ends up being built.

            @small ads – I think I will have to decline; I was brought up to believe that I should be responsible for myself, if humanly-possible.

          5. Anomanomanom

            The fact you mentioned Dublin 8, its filled with corpo housing sorry social housing, shows you have no clue what your talking about.

      2. Martco

        cmon, are you really expecting people to swallow this Leo & his best bud from Ranelagh on the building site nonsense?

        This country is AWASH with money & yet we’re supposed to be celebrating forty two houses being built?

        Honestly now, could you have imagined Garret Fitzgerald in his day turning up at the launch of forty two houses…like it’s a big achievement or something??

        Varadker & his buddy should do their job & stop with the cartoon-level spin, it’s just plain fupping insulting.

          1. Anomanomanom

            Are you serious?Ireland is filled with money. For a country of our size we are, for use of a better phrase, wealthy as fuck. The problem is governments think throwing money at everything works, it doesn’t. Maybe try stopping the waste of public money.

          2. Cian

            Went outside with a bucket to collect some of the money Ireland is awash with….

            Came back empty.

            Would not go again.

    1. Scundered

      Cheaper land so can provide more housing to more people. The people who live in it have a choice if they want to get educated, get work and live in more desirable areas.

      1. George

        The privileged often see life as a series of choices and believe their success is solely a result of their own merits in choosing wisely. They fail to understand that various circumstances can curtail a persons capacity to choose.

        1. Scundered

          Could equally say the inverse though George, when it comes to being a victim of everything except your own actions in life. Sure, everyone has varying levels of silver spoon starts in life, it’s not fair but it’s life, and by far the biggest thing that can change it is the determination of the individual to change it.

  2. digs

    What a cancerous coterie of scum the Irish government are. There is a housing crisis and they line the pickets of powerful landlords and refuse to build social housing!
    Oh wait, hold on…. Ahh sorry. They are building social housing!
    Great work. We’ll done. Some of the residents lucky enough to get one of these homes will be very lucky!

  3. Eoin

    Leo’s taking the whole “politician with a beverage in their hand to show they’re too busy working for YOU to stop to enjoy a cuppa” thing a bit too far, especially on the new stairs carpetting.

    1. Rob_G

      I don’t think it is carpeting. And seriously who would lay carpeting in a common area of some flats – it would become manky so quickly…

        1. Rob_G

          It looks like off-white lino from the photo (they would hardly put cream carpet on stairs).

          Carpet in private homes is very uncommon in most of Europe (apart from Ireland and Britain). Linoleum tiles are a lot less noisy than say wood.

        2. Clampers Outside !

          Not if you’re light on your feet, and don’t stomp like a hippo… anyway, ya can’t see the stairs, so I dunno what yiz are on about.

          No carpet on the stairs in my home :)

  4. dav

    blushirt building standards? one can guess what their blind eye towards the profiteering private sector will mean when cracks start appearing in the walls of theses homes..

    1. Rob_G

      The housing was built by DCC. FG are the 4th biggest grouping on DCC (after SF, Inds, & FF); I am not sure what impact this new information will have on the colour of the shirts of the builders.

      Do you ever have anything substantive to contribute?

      1. dav

        the housing was built on the thatcherite terms that blushirt government have dictated to the local authorities, namely lack of adequate funding for public housing.
        We all saw what their lack of funding for education has led to..
        Do you ever look at yourself and feel shame for your defence of such people?

          1. Cian

            Good for you. I’m amazed how many people that give out about the government – but don’t actually vote. FWIW I’ve voted every time since I was 18.

          1. Cian

            Jeez dav, I know you aren’t a FG supporter. But to call this mess-up a “a wholly blushirt mess” when it was projects that started in 2008 (so the kick-off, tender, and contracts would have been earlier) is, even for you, a master class in begrudgery and finger-pointing.

  5. dav

    So the tenders offered after 2011 have nothing to do with them, eh? Another example of fg hiding behind ff. 2 cheeks of the same bottom..

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